This doesn’t bode well, does it?

Who is Gabriel Boric? The radical student leader who will be Chile’s next president

Like making Richard Burgon PM.

Expect to see the Chilean economy turn to shit soon enough.

Still, gives Owen Jones another Latin idiot to swoon over:

General Pinochet’s brutal dictatorship bestowed Chile with its extreme economic model, and Boric and his influential cohort of student leaders have taken it upon themselves to dispose of it.

31 thoughts on “This doesn’t bode well, does it?”

  1. A Millennial student politician without even a minute of real world experience, leading a coalition of socialist, commies and greenies. Chile is proper fucked.

    Still, they voted for it, so no complaints if they get it.

    BTW “extremist” economic model? Pinochet’s economic model was only extreme in being more successful than the usual S American shitshow IIRC.

  2. ’ He has pledged to decentralise Chile, implement a welfare state, increase public spending and include women, non-binary Chileans and Indigenous peoples like never before.’

    *fetches popcorn*

  3. My prediction, for roughly five years from now when Chile has turned into a Venezualan-style shithole with inflation that puts Zimbabwe to shame, anyone that can get out has done, and Boric and his close associates are all somehow dollar billionaires:

    “That wasn’t proper socialism in Chile. And anyway, it’s all the fault of American imperialism” – owen jones and all the usual cheerleaders for mass murder.

    My further prediction, for roughly ten years from now:

    Free helicopter rides for Chilean socialists

  4. I wasn’t sure whether last night’s BBC News referred to Pinochet as a friend of Mrs Thatcher or that General Pinochet considered her a friend of his.

  5. Gustavo was a neighbour for a while, when the running dog Blairist claque had him imprisoned in the feared labour camp “Wentworth Estate”.

    We used to see the ragged prisoners troop out each morning to gather firewood and acorns along the A30, beaten by the thugs of Jack Straw’s secret police.

  6. Bernie G

    I think given he provided vital assistance during the Falklands conflict, Thatcher always felt he deserved recognition for saving the lives of British troops. That steadfastness is of course wholly unlike the pygmies of the BBC who have backed every anti-British leader from Nasser up to ISIS, and I think actively rejoiced when troops died at the hands of The Taleban (For example)

  7. Yep, they voted for him. They always will. Why? The Catholic church, the curse of Latin America.
    I got a gracias message from Colombia on Friday. For 2 million cash picked up from a branch of Bancolombia. I’ve been doing this for a while. I pay for the Xmas for a poor family in the poorest bario of a poor town out in the campo. It’s not as much as it sounds. About £370. But it’s a lot of money to them. More than a month’s wages. Look at Aguaclara on Google Streetview & there’s hardly a car to be seen. Just motos & the odd old pick-up. Horse & cart’s likely. Tiny one storey houses with tin roofs. All incredibly tidy & clean. These are S. Americans, not Africans. Or Brits.
    I said I got a gracias because that’s what they meant. But what I actually got was a thank you for God & His blessing. No, it wasn’t your God. It was from a heathen Brit who, if he was told the baby Jesus had been miraculously reborn on Xmas morning in a nearby flat to Spain’s one remaining Virgin, would cheerfully go round & strangle the little sod before he chance to do any more damage.
    But they’re believers because that’s what they’ve been indoctrinated to be. Despite their church treating them like shit for the past 600 yeas. So they’ll believe any assole promises them a wonderful miraculous tomorrow.

  8. @bloke in spain
    I am not sure that the Catholic church can be blamed for the success of communism.
    The Catholic church has done lots of harm – but sadly there are lots of non-Catholics in South America who support communists.
    Sadly I know some of them.

    (BTW Aguaclara is not a part of Cali I have every visited but well done for giving them money).
    Chile was the best part of South America – this is very very sad news. A bit like a football team winning the premiership 3 times in a row and sacking the manager).

  9. We’re basically a South American household here. Spanish & Portuguese speaking. Whether they’re believing Catholics or not is irrelevant. It’s the cultural legacy of the religion. They don’t really get cause>effect. They believe in luck & good intentions & wishing & all sorts of metaphysical shit. So some geezer comes along with a bit of charisma saying the right things, they vote for him. They’re not cynical enough for democracy

  10. Tulua’s a long way from Cali. About half way between there & Armenia. 100 km or so. Very different place. Small rural city.

  11. Here’s a question for the sages here. Are religion & corruption two faces of the same beast? I’d count communism as a religion here, as it has to be a belief system rather than an economic system. Having never delivered anything economically beneficial.
    The two do seem to be inseparable

  12. It’s the cultural legacy of the religion. They don’t really get cause>effect.

    Everything was peachy in South America before those bloody Jesuits showed up.

  13. BiS

    Power is what corrupts, whether it is over peoples’ souls or their lives. Human avarice is a greater driving force than ideology.

  14. bloke in spain,

    “Here’s a question for the sages here. Are religion & corruption two faces of the same beast?”

    I don’t think so, and I think religion is bollocks. Corruption comes from power. Churches used to be very powerful, so you get corruption. They’re mostly a bunch of vegan cucks preaching to empty pews so no-one cares.

    And as parts of the world get richer, religion will disappear (but people will find other stupid shit to believe in).

  15. You’ll be amazed to find that Boric is none too keen on Israel too although his opponent was equally anti-Jewish and literally the son of a Nazi Wehrmacht officer. Still, give it three or four years and I’m sure the usual suspects will be able to tell us why it wasn’t really socialism

  16. “So some geezer comes along with a bit of charisma saying the right things, they vote for him”

    Surely Lord Spudcup would denounce that as populism.

  17. @bloke in spain
    I was half asleep I thought you said Aguablanca. I need to sleep more.
    I have visited Aguaclara but many years ago.
    @Steve
    “Everything was peachy in South America before those bloody Jesuits showed up.”

    The children sacrificed by the Incas would have disagreed.
    Some indian tribes in Colombia still have female circumcision – that is not the Catholics fault

  18. Nobody’s saying the pre-Columbian religions were all peace & love. Better (or worse) than the Catholic church. Although it’s notable that amongst all of this toppling of statues of historic figures who might one had vague connections to slavery, no-one seems to be bothered about a church gave carte blanche to the enslavement of the peoples of an entire continent. Before they realised working Africans to death was more productive than working the locals to death.

  19. no-one seems to be bothered about a church gave carte blanche to the enslavement of the peoples of an entire continent

    Pretty sure it was the God-botherers who insisted – when it was a controversial and unpopular opinion to do so – that the indigenes were humans and shouldn’t be genocided, BiS.

  20. @bloke in spain
    True although catholics can say nowdays that Jesus didn’t have slaves so it was a mistake.
    Another major religion was founded by a slave owner but no one cares about that

  21. ‘Spain’s one remaining Virgin’. Glad the girls are having fun BiS.

    ‘They don’t really get cause>effect. They believe in luck & good intentions & wishing & all sorts of metaphysical shit.’ You’re reminding me of my opinions of the climate changers, BiS.

    ‘Before they realised working Africans to death was more productive than working the locals to death.’ Certainly intriguing that. Does seem to support the theory that it was disease that was a major factor in the conquest of the Americas.

  22. If the new regime is far left, the interesting part will be when the next elections come round. Traditionally the far left don’t take losing well and will try for a coup. Often by changing the law so they get “re-elected”.

    That’s what leftists never mention when Allende is beatified. He was beaten to it by Pinochet, but it was going to be a dictatorship either way. As brutal as Pinochet was, it sure beats modern Venezuela.

    The far left dont do democracy.

  23. There was a time, Steve, said god-botherers were insisting the indigenes didn’t have souls so weren’t human & didn’t have self determination. Or you could say the church adopted whatever position was convenient for the time. What is clear is that the Vatican drew lines on a map of S.America ( the bits they had on maps of) & divvied up the continent between Spain & Portugal. Unlike N. America where colonists came to trade with the natives, settle & farm, the Ports & Dagos went to the South as owners to exploit their property. The feudal version of property. The land with its people.

  24. Have a look at the Wiki page on the Jesuit reductions – enclaves of natives set up by Jesuits in South America, which freed them from the forced labour of the encomiendas. They are sometimes regarded as experiments in Socialism.

    BTW, if you actually look at Chilean politics, the legacy of Pinochet is the only thing that stops them from being a full-on Socialist country. The centre-right incumbent has done nothing to reverse the anti-growth and anti-capitalist policies of his often Socialist predecessors. It is only the incompetence of Chilean politicians that has so far prevented them from turning into Bolivia or Venezuela

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