Another one of those tech things

So, new monitor. Which seems to be displaying the text a little too high.

The margin at the bottom of the screen is a bit too big. The one at the top is a little too small. The tops of the tabs are disappearing off the top of the screen that is.

So, what’s this called? Because unless I can work that out of course I can’t look up how to solve it….

22 thoughts on “Another one of those tech things”

  1. How on earth can you be so bad at tech??

    In old CRT monitor days we used to have v-pos (& h-pos), but these are irrilevant on a LCD monitor.

    First thing is to check that the resolution is set correctly for the monitor so it isn’t trying to auto-scale.

    If that doesn’t work, tell use the monitor type, what it’s connected to, and what type of connection port you’re using.

    How’s the wifi?

  2. Raffles – doesn’t matter how you spell it, it’s not true – my monitor will allow me to change H and V via the OSM, but only for certain connection types.

    So, Tim check the cables are properly seated, and if so, try a different connection if you can – swap VGA to DVI or HDMI.

  3. There should be x and y displacement or position settings in the menu. Poke around and see what’s on offer — that’s what I always do.

  4. Wi fi, laptop won;t connect into it. Maybe I’ve got to tell it to forget the old wifi that uses the same log in?

    1980 by 1080. But that’s the same as it was on the old smaller monitor. And yes, lowering it to 1600 and whatever does solve the problem on hte new one. But that’s silly, that can’t be the actual problem. A new monitor not able to do standard size?

  5. “But that’s silly, that can’t be the actual problem. A new monitor not able to do standard size?”

    Well . . . yes.

    Because 1920×1080 is the ‘standard’ for *TVs* – its not the standard for monitors. Depending on their size many monitors have lower resolutions because the extra resolution means smaller pixels means higher costs.

  6. If you right click anywhere on the desktop (assuming its windows you are running) should bring up a mini menu. There should be a resolution option. This will allow you to select the optimal resolution for yur monitor (and yes 1600 x 900 is a(n old) standard resolution for monitors (was it cheap?). Otherwise the cable from the box to the monitor will affect the output options. VGA will probably drive 1600 x 900 okay. Perhaps an upgrade to the box is due.

  7. Oh an anathema that it is, maybe look at the manual for the monitor and see if it has any buttons that do stuff 🙂

  8. (1) Use HDMI for the connection of computer to monitor
    (2) if the computer doesn’t have an HDMI connector, buy a new computer
    (3) a new one won’t cost you much. You could buy a used Mac mini from Macsales.com. Or an Intel NUC from Amazon.
    (4) almost certainly, you will gasp with pleasure at the improved clarity and beauty of an HDMI-connected monitor.

    On a Mac, the Display control panel will let you adjust positioning of the visible screen on your monitor. This is primarily done so you could hook it to a big TV, and centre the image. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202763

    I’m sure that Windows has the same ability.

  9. Raffles, you do know Tim is a journalist, don’t you? We’re lucky he didn’t reply to BiSc, “Well I wrote ‘click’ on my desktop but I still can’t see any menu.”

    Although, to be fair the original of that joke was in HR, (or maybe sales).

  10. This is one of those times when I grab a bowl of popcorn and watch these “never-Macs” fiddle around with system settings and hardware adapters trying to get a very simple feature to work.

    I have to use a PC for work, and I have a dual-monitor setup which means more than one resolution and aspect ratio for multiple displays. This will likely take you a few tries before it finally works. Even when I used the correct settings, I initially had to keep disconnecting/reconnecting the monitors before the Dell laptop got the video scale through its thick skull.

  11. OK, if the monitor supports multiple inputs/connectors, VGA plus HDMI say, then it will probably have it’s own on-screen menu, probably accessed by a button marked as, um, Menu. If it isn’t, then reading the manual is probably easiest. That menu should (he says) allow you to adjust the H and V position using the buttons on the monitor itself, whilst the VGA input is active. OR, the monitor may have come with it’s own software which might offer the same functionality.

    On the other hand, if the box itself only offers VGA out, and the monitor only supports VGA in, then they’re probably, ah, quite old. I really wouldn’t be wanting to sit in front of it at 1920×1080 for any length of time. Probably give you a headache.

  12. Since he wrote “Aha! Autoconfig!” I assume Tim’s got it sorted now.

    But for a bit of explanation for the non techie involved …
    On a VGA connection, there’s some wires that carry signals to turn the red, green, and blue up and down as the monitor scans an electron beam across the inside of the big tube. The timing is controlled over two more wires – one (HSYNC) sends a pulse for every scan across the screen, and another (VSYNC) sends a pulse for every scan down the screen. For completeness, there’s another wire or two so that the monitor can tell the computer what it’s capable of – that was a massive step forward when it was added, and a right p.i.t.a. when you find a VGA cable that doesn’t connect it (and the supplier can’t understand why I’m complaining).
    There’s a load of HSYNC pulses between the start of a vertical scan and when the picture starts (blank bit above the picture), and a load more after the end of the picture (blank bit below). In the same way, there’s blank picture to the left and right of each horizontal line. Between them, these blank areas make for a nice clean picture, all visible, on a regular tube monitor.

    When you connect your computer to a modern digital flat screen monitor, the monitor has to try and make sense of the signals it’s getting, and adjust its internal timing to make the analogue signals it gets match the pixels it has. Thankfully, as you’ve found, nearly all of them have an auto-adjust that will examine the signals and work out what the timing is – and most of the time this actually works. Otherwise, it’s back to the horrors I recall from many years ago of having to manually fiddle with settings until it looks right – being a few pixels out can create some interesting effects, such as a “tartan” pattern on the screen.

    But as others have suggested – do yourself a favour and get something with a digital (DVI-D, DisplayPort, HDMI) output. I can attest that the difference in quality going to a digital connection can be significant. Right now I’m using a large 1920×1200 monitor over VGA, because the digital inputs are occupied with my work laptops (don’t ask, it’s also a p.i.t.a.) and its a horrible image compared to HDMI or DisplayPort.
    As a journalist, I assume that you spend a significant amount of time using the computer – you might as well do the equivalent of cleaning a really dirty car windscreen and make it less work on your eyes.

    What both amuses me and makes me cringe, is that at work (and elsewhere) I see a lot of monitors that have digital inputs, connected to computers with digital outputs. But because of the way things have evolved, there’s a digital-to-analogue (i.e HDMI or DisplayPort to VGA) adapter so the computer can use the VGA input. Thus introducing totally unnecessary digital to analogue and analogue to digital conversions.

  13. Biggest problem that I see with other peoples monitors is when the resolution is set to something other than the monitors natural resolution. So if your monitor is 1920×1080, then set your gfx card to the same resolution, otherwise things can go wonky if it’s upscaled or downscaled to suite.

  14. If you had an Apple product, it’s all easy. You just set the offending equipment down on top of an open Book of Mormon and it self-corrects within an hour.

  15. @bobby b What you’re not realizing is most people forget to use the golden plates. That’s why you’re so skeptical.

  16. This is one of those times when I grab a bowl of popcorn and watch these “never-Macs” fiddle around with system settings and hardware adapters trying to get a very simple feature to work.

    Yes, if only all monitors were made by Microsoft, who charged double the standard price for them and enforced a non-standard connector so you couldn’t use anybody else’s, what a superior world we would live in.

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