They’re not going to leave them alone, are they?

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Archewell charity raised less than $50,000 in 2020, American tax returns revealed — less than their charities spent on legal fees.

It opened a bank account last January, the couple’s lawyers said. It received its first deposit the following month, according to filings seen by the Daily Mail.

In the UK the couple’s now-defunct charity Sussex Royal spent more than £42,000 on legal fees between June 2020 and June last year.

That’s from The Times ut it’s a rewrite of the Mail. The Mail having just lost, big time, to Princessdon’tyuoknowhoiamiisblack and so the Mail is going to keep, keep, writing about stuff that doesn;t produce a good look but is also true. What’s going to be fun is seeing how much of the rest of the British press follows them.

For everyone hates the Mail but also everyone hates outsiders getting one over on the press.

32 thoughts on “They’re not going to leave them alone, are they?”

  1. My advice to Royal Personages: don’t marry into the aristocracy including Hollywood aristocracy. Even in its lowest reaches this class is saturated with feelings of entitlement. Marry a plumber’s daughter, a bank manager’s daughter … somebody who has more clue.

  2. I wonder whether Harry’s marriage was a carefully thought out plan to save the monarchy by making William’s wife look reasonable, by comparison. Whether Harry has knowingly taken one for Team Windsor or was just too thick to realise.

  3. Unfortunately Richard, I fear it is the latter. He has that permanent look on his face as if he’s trying to solve the mystery of “small or far away.”

  4. the Mail is going to keep, keep, writing about stuff that doesn;t produce a good look but is also true

    And it is never going to run out of material.

  5. I wonder whether Harry’s marriage was a carefully thought out plan to save the monarchy by making William’s wife look reasonable, by comparison.

    Genuinely curious how William’s is unreasonable. All I know about her is that she’s squeezed out an heir and a spare, and otherwise generally keeps her opinions to herself. Isn’t that the whole job description?

  6. I’m not saying Harry’s thick, but someone tried telling him a “knock knock” joke and he replied “come in”.

  7. Harry certainly seems a bit dim. But on the other hand he was bright enough to learn to fly a helicopter. So he presumably can’t be all that dim, can he?

    Is there an accepted IQ threshold below which you never try to teach someone to fly a helicopter? I wouldn’t be surprised if the US military had an explicit cut-off. But would it be public knowledge?

  8. Dearieme, I know for a fact that the US marine corps has an intelligence test. The son of a mate of mine graduated from High School but was not accepted by the Marines for failing to pass the test. A site I googled has this piece of delightful doublespeak

    “Nongraduates must score between the 27th to the 65th percentiles on the AFQT, depending on the service in question. A more recent posting at Reference.com states: There is no minimum IQ score to join the U.S. Army, but applicants have to score at least 31 on the Armed Forces Qualification Test.”

  9. Turning that into a more normal 100-median measure, the first is 54 to 130 with an average of 92, the second is a minimum of 62.

  10. dearieme,

    “Harry certainly seems a bit dim. But on the other hand he was bright enough to learn to fly a helicopter. So he presumably can’t be all that dim, can he?”

    Well, he’s clearly above spastic, but are we talking 90 IQ or 140 IQ? How many people bother getting a helicopter license to give us a comparison? Not many.

    I think his biggest problem is a lack of experience of a world outside the bubble, though. It’s not healthy to live off your Dad until you’re 35 and to probably spend a lot of time with people hanging around with you just because of your title (and future advantages). He has no idea what the life of an so-so looking ginge with a mediocre mind is like. The trade off of press intrusion for a nice big house and getting nuts deep in lingerie models seems like a pretty good one to me, but don’t even get that there’s a trade. He thinks he can just have all the good stuff.

  11. BoM4: I dare say the US Armed Forces have experience trying to teach the dim sons of VIPs to fly. Hell, John McCain – son and grandson of admirals – was taught to fly and apparently made a really lousy pilot. So I’ll bet they have experience along the lines of not trying to teach anyone with an IQ of less than 110, say, to fly a helicopter. 110? 115? 105?

    As D and jgh imply the rule would probably be couched in terms of their own tests but I imagine that they could be turned into IQ results pretty easily. (I can remember Steve Sailer converting the scores on the entrance examination for officer training of W and John Kerry into IQ-equivalents.) I’m not a great worshipper of IQ tests but averaged over enough people they do show something real, albeit incomplete. In particular the examinee can’t fake his IQ upwards.

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    When I did the RYA Yachtmaster theory course one of the guys had a private pilots licence and reckoned the navigation requirements were about the same. To do the navigation questions, practical and theory, requires a reasonable understanding of trigonometry and distance, time, speed calculations.

    I don’t know what IQ is needed but it was surprising how many struggled. I also don’t if the military have the same requirements but from my time watching some Army Air Corps pilots I think they did.

    The other thing about helicopter piloting is the need for good coordination, that’s the first thing they tested then.

  13. I didn’t think that he was a pilot. I thought he was a gunner or navigator on Apaches.

    William is a fully qualified pilot.

  14. I cannot really comment on this paper

    https://publicism.info/psychology/curve/28.html

    But they seem to calculate that there is a 0.81 correlation between IQ and AFQT. So if we knew Harry’s IQ we could have a guess at possible ranges of his possible AFQT score. Perhaps an IQ of 80 would be enough to get him in? However, AFQT purports to cover a range of topics beyond “simple” intelligence

  15. Dennis, Septic to the Masses

    What is obvious is that Harry doesn’t have much experience in the practical matters of life. He lacks what we septics call “street smarts”, and that makes him look stupid when it comes to dealing with the practical side of life. He was born and bred to attend to the frivolous side of life, which is the lot of royalty these days. He’s stepped out into an arena he is ill-equipped to deal with. And being married to – and relying on – a failed Hollywood actress isn’t going to provide much in the way of practicality for him to lean on.

  16. Having got a Private Pilot’s Licence decades ago (since lapsed) my view was that the theory was pretty basic for aerodynamics, meteo and navigation, though most of the pilots in training at the same time I was seemed to be reasonably intelligent. For PPL the need is to plan and execute a flight using the tools available to help avoid the trig, and to understand that you keep an eagle eye on the weather and abort if necessary (turn back or choose an alternate).

    From what I’ve seen of military training the requirement is to learn fast so they don’t have to spend too much money, and the slow ones will get washed out fairly quickly, but might make perfectly adequate PPLs.

  17. if the military have the same requirements

    As far as RAF navigator training is concerned, the chop rate on my course (60 years ago) was 40% – 20 started and 12 of us eventually got our wings. For pilots I suspect the failure rate was/is similar, but not generally for lack of navigational ability.

  18. Never mind the quality, feel the thickness.

    What’s lacking is what they call EQ (emotional intelligence) and we used to call sympathy. Neither seems to have a clue about how they might appear to others, the imaginitive faculty seems to have deserted royals and hollywood types alike. Odd, since they’ve been on a stage nearly all their lives.

  19. @ dearieme 11.32am
    That Charles made an unfortunate choice of aristocrat to marry doesn’t prove your point because four of the last five monarchs married aristocrats and the one that made a bad choice was the one who married a divorced American commoner.

  20. Dennis, The Sensitive One

    We will likely never know if he was an adequate pilot. How many training officers are going to wash out a member of the royal family? It’s like the USAF back during the Cold War… we’d train a bunch of 3rd World types, and rather than wash out a whole nation’s class and cause a diplomatic incident, we’d give ‘em their wings and send ‘em back to whatever shithole country they came from.

  21. @Dennis TSO
    we’d give ‘em their wings and send ‘em back to whatever shithole country they came from

    Sound military thinking: you don’t want to train them to be any good because when it comes to the inevitable punch-up with said shithole country you have n advantage.

  22. @Dennis Ali’s IQ was probably closer to 178 than 78.

    Definitely intelligent-135 sounds about right.

  23. Ah got it now. This is where the pilot/gunner mix up comes from.

    While on a five-month tour in Afghanistan, he served as a co-pilot gunner – sharing flying duties and taking control of the weapons of the two-man Apache.

  24. @Dennis: he probably was an adequate pilot. When his uncle Edward tried training for the marines they proved perfectly capable of telling him that he didn’t seem to be up to it. He seems to have accepted that with good grace.

    I suspect our royal family has less “pull” in the armed forces than people like McCain had in the USN. We’d learn more about the “pull” of the sons of senators and so on only if some of them were to volunteer to join up. I take it that damn few do?

  25. Dennis, Your Guide To The USA

    When his uncle Edward tried training for the marines they proved perfectly capable of telling him that he didn’t seem to be up to it.

    Chalk one up for the Brits, then. As noted, John McCain is the poster child for nepotism in the US military.

  26. four of the last five monarchs married aristocrats and the one that made a bad choice was the one who married a divorced American commoner.

    I’ve been thinking about this and I guess it depends on how one defines “aristocrat”.

    Diana (loony) Earl’s daughter
    Prince Philip (natural born killer) Danish/Greek Prince
    Elizabeth Bowes Lyon (sane + saint) Earl’s daughter
    Wallis Simpson (aging flapper) father “in trade”
    Queen Mary (sane + saint) minor German princess
    Queen Alexandra (sane + saint) Danish princess

    I think that there might be an issue of training here. The Spencers were/are a very dysfunctional bunch. Princess Alice and children were all but abandoned by her wastrel husband Prince Andrew of Greece, Simpson’s father died when she was young.

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