Research by the Manifesto Club has now revealed that officials are recommending hiring private litter enforcement companies – many of which are paid more the more fines they issue – as they provide a source of income.
How do you gain income by making a loss?
Doesn’t it make sense to make the penalty for littering a day or two working on a litter picking gang rather than a fine? This would cost money rather than generate revenue but would also make the world less littered and isn’t that the whole point?
Huge majority of the fly tipping & general littering is down to local councils not doing the basics in order to hire more diversity advisers.
They make it awkward / impossible to dump plasterboard, general household waste etc etc.
Reinstate weekly waste collections with everything taken away.
Empty litter bins at the weekends.
Thats 95% sorted.
…”private litter enforcement companies – many of which are paid more the more fines they issue..”
Ummm.. They’re re-anacting the Witch-hunters ? That ended well…..
When there are 2 or 3 litter wardens, with no real authority, wandering around in a gang trying to intimidate people into paying a fine for dropping a fag end, you have to wonder why? Wouldn’t they be better employed if they were issued with a broom and a litter wagon, cleaning the streets of litter?
Are they making a loss? – the sentence reads ‘many of which are paid more the more fines they issue’….which I must admit I first read as ‘many of which are paid more THAN the more fines they issue’.
‘many of which are paid more THAN the fines they issue’……bugger
I got an FOI from our local council a few years back. The vast majority of fines were for cigarette buts, with only a few for other litter. The streets were still covered in shit
They don’t care about fining chavs for dropping litter, only about smokers
“ When there are 2 or 3 litter wardens, with no real authority, wandering around in a gang trying to intimidate people into paying a fine for dropping a fag end, you have to wonder why? Wouldn’t they be better employed if they were issued with a broom and a litter wagon, cleaning the streets of litter?”
We’ve been wandering the former DDR states in our motorhome and I was surprised at the amount of smoking, but being Germany they have a man walking round with a litter picker. At least they did Ilmenau.
It sounds to me that the company gets paid, but there’s still some left over.
Personally, I’m in favour of this sort of thing. I know everyone can find the exceptions, but I hate litter. If there’s a way to do it with private incentives (because councils are too busy with various Woke Shit), go for it.
What BonM4 said.
I hate litter as much as BoM4 does. And private companies can be used to solve the problem. But not when they are incentivised to collect fines.
What ends up is that the low paid enforcement officers will harass women and old people because that are easy pickings and they want an easy life and they don’t want to lose their job and be fired for not collecting fines. Like police, they won’t be on a commission but questions will be asked if they aren’t making arrests or collecting fines.
Instead of following the spirit of the law, and asking people to pick up their litter, they leave it on the ground and issue the fine. So fines don’t solve the problem, just make those fined double check for any litter enforcement officers before they through away their litter.
That’s another thing about the litter enforcement. The companies get paid to have lots of “officers” wandering around shopping centres, but they do nothing about real litter on layby and country lanes. Just putting up a trailcam and monitoring such sites is beyond them. Then they could be paid on proper results, not on the basis of keeping the money from the fines.
You can also be damned sure they will stay away from those troublesome ‘efnik’ areas (RoPpers and the like) as it would clearly be racist to wander around fining people for behaving like they do back in the tribals.
…plus, you can’t have litter patrolmen being beheaded on Luton High Street. The optics aren’t good.
I actually work in this area in Bradford…we cover BD3, an inner city hell hole and can move 2 ton+ of shite every day.
The Wardens and Enforcement Officers are nowhere to be seen, they prefer the easier pickings of the neighbouring areas. To treat BD3, 7, 8 and 9 as they do everywhere else is Waycist…
In general, I’d love to know–not just for sanitation services, but for any government-sanctioned nonsense–how much does it cost to comply, and how much does it cost to simply pay the fines?
When Obamacare was first enacted, there were a ton of people who decided to pay the $200 fine instead of the more expensive health insurance that they didn’t want.
If a company does away with woke hiring quotas and diversity initiatives, is it cheaper to pay for the occasional frivolous lawsuit? Or is it cheaper to spend tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars on consultants and nonprofit partnerships? Isn’t a straightforward employment contract enough to weed out the spineless rabble-rousers without prejudice?