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Well, goose and gander really

If it is true that there should be female only spaces – which I tend to think is just and righteous – then there should also be male only spaces:

Lisa Edwards just wanted to be one of the Lads: a member of the Liverpool Agricultural Discussion Society, an all-male group for farmers that meets monthly for dinner and to listen to a talk.

Instead, she has found herself at the centre of a heated sexism row which has pitted her and other female farmers against their male colleagues over entry to the 94-year-old society.

After all, farmers should understand that sauce for goose and gander idea even if no one else does.

10 thoughts on “Well, goose and gander really”

  1. Every single one of the demands made by the left – in all it’s forms – is entirely non-reciprocal.

  2. I agree that there should male only and female only spaces. But the reason for them should be only for social purposes.

    If there is a group of people gathering together for other reasons, such as an interest in a certain subject, be it farming, model making, dress making then there will always be outliers. These will be women who like farming, women who like RC model making, men who like making clothes.

    The majority in the group don’t need to bend over backwards for the minority, just accept that as fellow people interested in the subject. The other thing about these outliers is that they will not be the norm for their sex, so they will more easily fit in with the group’s general attitudes.

  3. So…She’s trying to break into the Shed, a place even Nanny Ogg tends to leave alone..
    ( if only because the Lads make sure she’s got a courtesy sample of the food’n’drinks beforehand, and she can more easily find out what is up through her Clan.)

    Well done, that lass..

    Can’t bother with the oaywall, but is she a Farmer-farmer, or one of those that cater to the Vegan Madness?

  4. SBML ” …men who like making clothes.

    The majority in the group don’t need to bend over backwards for the minority, just accept that as fellow people interested in the subject. The other thing about these outliers is that they will not be the norm for their sex, so they will more easily fit in with the group’s general attitudes.”

    Sheaah.. Riiight…
    I make my own costumes for re-enactment** and regularly have to enter the places where they purvey the necessities for such endeavours.
    The amount of disbelief/horror/disgust/panic you encounter when the ladies figure out I’m very much not gay is …impressive… in a way. And some of them would like to toss you out on the spot if they could.
    So much for that acceptance….

    ** Yes, you can buy that stuff. Eye-watering costs at the level of bridal dresses/fitted tuxes. And that’s using modern equipment. Handsewn parts… welll…
    Hell, I even try my hand at shoemaking because you can easily go north of €500 for a pair of normal shoes, let alone proper replicas of something “high-status”.

  5. Are there any male members in the Women’s Institute?
    Yes, I know, some wag will reply along the lines of “Only in some of the members of the Women’s Institute”.

  6. I believe the Women’s Institute has opened itself to trannies. One of the reasons my mother has ceased to be involved, after nearly 60 years….

  7. Maby years ago I had a conversation with a female colleague. At the time women were arguing that male only colleges need to accept women and simultaneously women were protesting that there women only colleges were going to accept men (in order to survive). Groups like NOW were suing to prevent a male only k-12 public school from going public. I said it was illogical. If women were best educated in woman only schools, that implied some schools would be male only. They argued that women needed to be educated with woman only and also argued men had to be educated with women. If women want to be educated separately, then there’s no women to be educated with men. She agreed that my point was true but women still needed to be educated in single sex institution but men need to be educated with women. Sigh

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