It’s an arguable point really

The annual number of deaths related to legal induced abortion has fluctuated from year to year since 1973, according to the CDC.

An analysis of data from 2013 to 2018 showed the national case-fatality rate for legal induced abortion was 0.41 deaths per 100,000 legal induced abortions, lower than in the previous five years.

Some would say that the rate is 100,000.41 deaths per 100,000 abortions. Which is really where we came in on the argument at the start, isn’t it?

10 thoughts on “It’s an arguable point really”

  1. It’s a “Fact Check”, so you know going in that they’re lying to you.

    in 2017, pregnancy rates for females of reproductive age hit their lowest recorded levels, with 87 pregnancies per 1,000 females ages 15 to 44, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

    This should alarm and horrify anybody with a passing interest in the future, and makes the legalised destruction of over 600,000 Americans in utero every year even more indefensible. But Western culture is basically a suicide cult at this point.

    Trans and nonbinary people have undergone abortions as well. :smugface:

    I fully support safe, legal and unrestricted abortion (for journalists).

  2. But Western culture is basically a suicide cult at this point.

    It’s wider. Belief systems don’t seem to be that influential; lack of fecundity seems to be a result of civilizational success and comfort. But it will be an uncomfortably self-correcting problem (unless robot technologies enjoy a very rapid improvement).

  3. PJF – lack of fecundity seems to be a result of civilizational success and comfort

    Modern urban living seems to be a Calhounian rat trap, but Israel and, I believe, the Mormons still have healthy birth rates, tho I don’t think they can afford to be complacent.

    However, urbanisation doesn’t seem to be troubling Islam at all, in fact they seem to thrive in it. And this is independent of race, there’s a lot more young Chechens now than there were in 2002, for eggs sample.

  4. @ Steve “However, urbanisation doesn’t seem to be troubling Islam at all”

    Obviously well out of date and the 2021 census results won’t be published until later this year but as per the 2011 England & Wales census there were two parliamentary constituencies with Muslim majority populations (including minors). Birmingham, Hodge Hill, (52.1%) and Bradford West (51.3%). Birmingham, Hall Green, was at 46.6%.

    A further 7 had at least 1/3 Muslim. 80 constituencies had at least 10%.

    The 1961 England & Wales census had the Muslim population at c50,000. There were 63,400 in Birmingham, Hodge Hill in 2011.

    It will be interesting to see what the 2021 census shows.

  5. given that miscarriage and childbirth can also be a killer, then perhaps they have not looked at the bigger picture

  6. Just stop the taxpayer funding and watch the outrage start to fizzle.

    But we can’t have that happen with midterms approaching and a dismal economy and a rising crime rate and dictators laughing at us, can we?

  7. The frequency of twins in the USA (probably the most thoroughly checked statistic handy) is 32.1 per 1,000 live births so best estimate is 33.16 (spurious accuracy: only the 33 is anything like reliable) per 1,000 abortions.
    Hence I disagree with your estimate – it should be 103,316.41

  8. Iran’s birth rate was about 7 at the height of the war with Iraq. Now it has collapsed to under 2.
    Muslim country, I’m told. And they don’t suffer from every wanker from the Duke of Edinburgh through the Attenborough to twats on Twatter moaning about the population explosion.

  9. Thank you Philip. Of course I’m one of the post WW2 baby boomers. And I understand the Chinese are fussing that births are now below replacement level.

    It’ll certainly be interesting to see if civilisation is so unnatural that it leads to human extinction. But it’d be far more likely we’d end up with a few ferals roaming the ruins, looking for some weak wankers who’d make tasty long pig.

    And then it’d all start over again.

  10. “in 2017/18, there were 8.1 million pupils at state-funded primary, secondary or special schools in England – of those, 67% were White British, 11% were Asian, 6% were Black, 6% were from the Other White ethnic group, 6% had Mixed ethnicity, and 0.4% were from the Chinese ethnic group ”

    Riddled country.

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