Payments made to British families welcoming families of Ukrainian refugees are “nowhere near enough”, amid soaring energy bills and inflation, charities and hosts have said.
Volunteers who host Ukrainians fleeing the Russian invasion receive £350 a month per family as a “thank you”, provided they don’t charge rent.
But hosts have argued that this money from the Government does not go far enough as energy and food bills continue to rise.
What is it about the difference between a thank you and a covering of costs that escapes people?
Perhaps we should look to the example of Clem Attlee:
Paul Willer obituary
German refugee who fled from the Nazis with his mother and brother and was taken in by the Labour leader Clement Attlee
Never told anyone about it, no press releases, wasn’t known to have happened – publicly – until decades later. And most certainly didn’t ask for any money for doing this.
Attlee had never publicised his hosting of a refugee boy and Willer’s time with the family came to light only a few years ago after a memoir by his mother had been deposited at the Wiener Holocaust Library in London. The AJR organised an event at the Houses of Parliament where among those he met was Attlee’s granddaughter. He praised the “extraordinary love that was found from the whole family, children and parents”. Attlee, he said, “did not try and glorify himself in any way”.
Clem was certainly wrong about many things but not this one.
…as energy and food bills continue to rise.
WTF? It’s flaming June!
As for a food bill of 350 quid, what diet are these people on? Martian?
Between their full-time work and their portfolio of buy-to-lets, Mr and Mrs Blake have a “secure” income stream, although the couple set rents below the market average and refuse to raise them, not wanting to “cripple” tenants.
Not wanting to cripple your buy-to-let tenants is so Christian as is complaining when taxpayer handouts are insufficient to cover costs causing you to dip into the profits from your own property portfolio.
Something to do with moar gubmint becoming the national religion?
Or maybe they’re suffering from the rapid decline in the currency of Virtue Signalling for Ukraine and therefore require compensation
A Ukrainian is for life, not just for Christmas.
Presumably when the “hosts” tire of their virtual signaling (let’s be generous, a few weeks) the pets can be dumped on the nearest shelter, aka the taxpayer.
What a remarkable and unexpected and freak turn of events!
I volunteer at a local foodbank.
Two weeks ago a Ukrainian lady showed up (on foot) seeking food and toiletries for herself and her children. We’re pretty sure she was Ukrainian as some surreal interaction using Google translate resulted in at least partial communication.
We’re there to help so I’ve got no problems (the poor woman subsequently attempted to walk back some 5 miles carrying half a dozen bags before a lift was quickly provided for her) but this didn’t fit in at all with the concept of the host family providing for its guests.
Lol.
The Association of Jewish Refugees (AJR) said Willer died on Friday. His daughter thanked the association for securing financial help and said his life had a “happy ending”.
Perhaps they felt guilty?
The family was advised that because the children were seen as “half Aryan”, they might struggle to qualify for the Kindertransport scheme, which helped mainly Jewish children.
Can’t be helping those filthy half-Aryans…
It does occur that Attlee may have had sound political reasons for keeping his commendable actions towards German refugees, while the country was at war with Germany, private.
Can’t be helping those filthy half-Aryans…
Mate. In Naziworld you got it from both sides.
At first Jew/Gentile marriages were tolerated IF the husband was Aryan, but as the regime became more insane, then the distinction was ignored.
It was not understood elsewhere that this was just as dangerous as being full Jewish.
A good example was the German actor Heinz Ruhmann who had a Jewish wife, divorced her and packed her off to Sweden so that he could keep working in the Reich.
BiFR
But if he had been interned and deNazified, then it would have been a plus mark, you know saving Jews and all that. If he had to live in Atlee’s cellar, chained to a gas pipe, then one could see an issue there.
Or maybe they’re suffering from the rapid decline in the currency of Virtue Signalling for Ukraine and therefore require compensation
Yarp. Nota Benny people who were moved to adopt a Ukie because they saw sad pictures on the TV are highly likely to have also believed the TV that Russia is going to lose any day now you’ll see.
But Russia isn’t going to lose, and the refugees aren’t going back (every day that passes means they have less to go back to). This isn’t a big deal for the UK, because we’ve taken in a tiny number of them. It’s a big problem for Poland, which is now home to 3.2 million Ukrainians at the same time the global economy is Amber Hearding the bed:
The population of Poland’s capital, Warsaw, has grown by 15 percent; in Kraków it swelled by 23 percent; in Gdańsk by 34 percent.
Astonishing numbers. But no EU money for stupid Poles unless they surrender their country to
George Sorosthe “rule of law”.On Wednesday, the European Commission approved Poland’s national recovery plan, under which the country can receive around €24 billion in grants €12 billion in ultra-cheap loans. The move — which some commissioners argue is premature amid an ongoing dispute over the rule of law in Poland — is expected to boost Warsaw’s ability to respond to the influx of Ukrainian refugees. The deal requires the government to meet certain “milestones,” including rule of law, before it can access the money.
Note that none of this “rule of law” stuff applies when sending weapons to a war zone filled with nazi paramilitaries and a government that’s running around shooting “traitors”, but it definitely does apply when Szymon wants a bit of European solidarity to help people fleeing destruction. Womp womp.
How this shakes out is anybody’s guess, we’re still bravely fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian male still hale and stupid enough to hold a rifle and trudge towards the guns. The refugee outflow has slowed down, but may already be fatal to the demographic future of Ukraine, which was already shaky before the war.
Poland’s gambit to get the EU to forget about importing kebab-scented rape gangs and get excited for WW3 instead has failed, the EU is more than capable of ruining the lives of its subjects in multiple simultaneous ways.
Poland and Western Ukraine may become one country before very long, and God alone knows what that means for Europe.
But the real action is in Germany, which has just agreed to commit economic suicide in plenty of time for the winter. That’s going to make those EU meetings extra spicy.
You, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder? Disorder.
You do have an obsession with neo-nazis, Steve. If they’re the ones best at fighting Russians who invade next door countries, good luck to them. The real Nazis, the ones in Berlin, went mythic years ago. What we have left is cool uniforms, nice tats & third hand memories of a German Army was the best in the Europe of its time. Not broomstick carriers. It’s like Vikings. A horned helmet & runes on your T-shirt does not imply taking a row boat & raping & pillaging Lindesfarne.
The guys in Ukraine are, according to the media, “extreme nationalists”. The label they give to people who aren’t willing to sell their country for the price of a ticket to the Eurovision Song Contest. Was a time Brits were extreme nationalists. Why there aren’t any real Nazis still about.
Regarding Germany’s economic suicide I couldn’t help noticing the word “pledge” in official pronouncements about future energy supplies. Is a pledge more or less than a commitment? How does it stack up against a promise?
‘Charity’ is now a racket and those involved in it are racketeers. I thought that was obvious.
Ottokring,
Mate. In Naziworld you got it from both sides.
At first Jew/Gentile marriages were tolerated IF the husband was Aryan, but as the regime became more insane, then the distinction was ignored.
It was not understood elsewhere that this was just as dangerous as being full Jewish.
I’ve just finished listening to a podcast series about the lawyer Hans Globke who wrote all the laws plus the ones that were used in occupied lands. He also gave himself the power to decide which marriages should as first be accepted, none, which Jews could get special favours to go to university etc, none. He then went on to write the laws for the setting of concentration camps.
He he’d never been in the Nazi Party, his application was refused, so he never got punished after the war and ended up as Adenauer’s right hand man.
I thought I knew how evil the Nazis were, but I didn’t know the half of it.
The podcast is called Achtung! History and its the 1st series, He Who Holds The Devil.
He’s got a Wiki page.
Smug twat got a roasting in the DT comments
BiS – You do have an obsession with neo-nazis, Steve
I don’t think I do, but it’s true I’m not in favour of neo-nazis or paleo-nazis and don’t think they’re a Good Thing, and don’t want my taxes funding their activities, and do think it’s notable that Western MSM immediately segued from Black Lives Matter to openly praising people who unironically worship WW2 era war criminals.
If they’re the ones best at fighting Russians who invade next door countries, good luck to them.
The shenanigans of Ukranian nazis since 2014 are a major reason for the invasion. Zelensky was elected in 2019 to make peace, but Azov told him on live TV that he wasn’t going to be allowed to deescalate the civil war. And here we are.
The guys in Ukraine are, according to the media, “extreme nationalists”.
I think it’s useful to delineate between people who have a normal, healthy sense of patriotism and violent thugs acting as a state-sponsored militia for the oligarchs. Ukrainian nationalism is extremely aggressive, especially towards other Ukranians. We shouldn’t want the 30’s to come back in style, but the low-grade farce that is Ukraine since the Euromaidan looks a lot like a gritty Slavic reboot of central European fanaticism in the interwar years.
John – no telling, but the chutes have been pre-greased for them by Our Greatest Ally, Uncle Sam. Hard to see Germany finding the testicular fortitude to escape what the Americans have planned for them, which means deindustrialisation and sharply reduced standards of living for Hans combined with being America’s paypig, forever.
Germany is going to get the worst thing you could ever wish on your worst enemy – what it deserves. But maybe this will turn out for the best, as being fat and unhappy hasn’t really worked out for them.
The shenanigans of Ukranian nazis since 2014 are a major reason for the invasion.
You’re mixing up “reason” with “puerile justification for the low IQ Russian domestic audience that has somehow made it into the minds of a peculiar subset of western conservatives”.
The only reason for the invasion(s) is the geopolitics of fossil fuels.
PJF – You’re mixing up “reason” with “puerile justification for the low IQ Russian domestic audience that has somehow made it into the minds of a peculiar subset of western conservatives”.
Puerile: noticing what Russia has been saying all along since 2014, and taking their public position at least somewhat seriously.
Not puerile: ignoring everything they say and assuming Russia operates on Bond villain logic.
The only reason for the invasion(s) is the geopolitics of fossil fuels.
If it was just about that, there wouldn’t even be a war right now. Nord Stream 2 would be in production and NATO wouldn’t be openly threatening China. I think the No Blood For Oil guys misunderstood what Iraq was about, and you’re making the same miscalculation.
Why Russia fears the Azov battalion and has used all its propaganda tools to try to maintain the myth that it is still full of Nazis.
https://www.forces.net/ukraine/news/ukraine-what-azov-battalion
Steve. Putin’s been working towards reinstating a Greater Russia including Ukraine & the Baltics since before he was first president. He wrote & was published on the subject. Your opinions are based almost totally on ignorance. Or pro-Kremlin propaganda.
Back to your neo-Nazi fetish. You’ll find as many swastikas tattooed on Russians as you will on Ukrainians. Your view of the WW2 is a British view of history. Very black & white. Eastern Europe has a different view. Different history. WW1, Russo-Polish War of ’20, went almost to Warsaw with the Russian objective Germany, the Homolodor, annexation of the Baltic Republics, Winter War Finland ’38, Continuation War. For certain times for certain countries at certain times, the German Army & Germany are the good guys, not the bad. If you want a re-run of ’33-45 look for it in Putin’s Moscow, now.
To add to the above. Anyone who grew up in Eatern Block countries before ’89 was educated with version of history at considerable varience from what those who were there at the time actually experieced. So they knew they were being lied to. So which bits were lies & which bits truth?
“Hard to see Germany finding the testicular fortitude to escape what the Americans have planned for them”
You vastly over-estimate the ability of the American government to plan for anything. Trump didn’t give a shit about Germany and the Biden gang is hopelessly incompetent. There is no ‘plan’. Most Americans couldn’t locate Germany on a map, much less plot to damage it.
Recipients are told not to charge Rent
That does not mean they must provide full board and lodging
They’re free to tell lodgers to provide their own food and apportion energy bills as anyone who’s lived in a shared house/flat knows and does
More Left whinging for ‘some rich guy must pay’
@Steve
+1
Re The shenanigans of Ukranian nazis since 2014 are a major reason for the invasion. Zelensky was elected in 2019 to make peace, but Azov told him on live TV that he wasn’t going to be allowed to deescalate the civil war. And here we are.
Yes. It was more than Azov, deputy leader of Ukraine Military publicly said if Zelensky went ahead with making peace with Russia he’d be assasinated
@PJF
That ranks high in your most absurd deluded posts
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A good read:
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/30/was-the-maidan-massacre-a-false-flag/
Interesting
That ranks high in your most absurd deluded posts
An understanding of just how much oil, gas and coal is under Ukraine, when it was discovered, where it was discovered, and how this would impact Russia’s economic and geostrategic plans if it came under western/European domain – this you regard as absurd and deluded.
Well, you run along and play with your Nazi Davos internet conspiracy theories, there’s a good lad.
All that oil, gas and coal and Ukraine’s not extracted and sold it. I wonder why? Cost too high, no profit, not enough?
Ukraine produces 55,832.44 barrels per day of oil (as of 2016) ranking 61st in the world. Ukraine produces every year an amount equivalent to 5.2% of its total proven reserves
An understanding of just how much oil, gas and coal is under Ukraine: not a lot worth extracting
All that oil, gas and coal and Ukraine’s not extracted and sold it. I wonder why?
Because most of it sits under the Donbas, the Sea of Azov, Crimea and the Chorne Sea. Strangely, the very bits that Russia invaded, occupied, controlled and subjected to conflict in 2014 not long after discovery – thus preventing commercial exploitation. Unbelievably laughable that you’d be so dim as to use the Russian prevention of Ukraine’s access to its resources to try and claim there is “not a lot worth extracting”.
War over resources: absurd and deluded.
War over nasty CIA Nazis banning Russian textbooks in schools: totally right on believable.
Well why didn’t you say that in your previous post?
You imply Ukraine has huge reserves and doesn’t extract because Russia. Why weren’t they extracting and selling pre 2014? Why weren’t they doing it post 2014 in Ukraine minus Crimea.
Oh, they were since 1998, then by 2000 production had fallen by 70% and continued declining to today’s ~7% of 1998 production
Because Russia?
Facts matter. Constant untruths, unsubstantiated claims plus Ad-hom attacks & insults achieve nothing… except…