Note, worst case, worst……

One worst case scenario by Whitehall predicts six million homes will be left without power this winter if Russia cuts supplies of gas to Europe – a situation ministers are desperate to avoid.

Would be interesting trying to propose net zero policies if that happened, eh?

Meanwhile, if Britain suffers another year of low winds causing wind farm output to plummet, there is “an increased risk of blackouts and rationing of industrial consumption,” she adds.

Err, yeah.

32 thoughts on “Note, worst case, worst……”

  1. Um??? They’re sanctioning Russia and they’re afraid the Russkies’ll take it seriously?????

  2. Trying to propose? They’ll simply say, “If we got more energy from windmills, we wouldn’t need to rely of nasty Russian gas. These blackouts prove we should net zero harder!”

  3. “We need more renewables”.

    Yesterday afternoon @ 17.30. Demand was 30Gw and our 11,091, 24.6GW capacity wind turbines were generating 5Gw.

    We would need to install another 66,366 turbines to deliver the demand of a Sunday afternoon in June.
    But, even if we did build and install another 66,366 wind turbines, we would still need to build and maintain 30GW of nuclear, gas, oil, coal base load as the turbines would deliver 0 GW if the wind wasn’t blowing.

    If this makes sense to you, you are insane.

  4. The windmills in East Yorkshire seem to have been stationary a lot this year. There has been a lot of still weather. Time to make sure that the genny is fully fettled and charged with fresh petrol.

  5. “The wind is always blowing somewhere” – but not necessarily in the UK or our coastal waters.
    So wind power production is *not* reliable. This year it has varied between 64% and 0.57% of rated capacity: last year it got down to 0.14% of rated capacity.
    Adolff is quoting a relatively “good” day. Last year average wind power produced at 5.6GW was less than 12% of average demand.

  6. I wonder how many rich people will be installing solar power and diesel generator back ups. My view is that the green energy promoters know full well that a transition over to 100% renewable energy means that there will be no base-load power and that businesses and domestic energy users will have to make their own arrangements when it comes to backup power. About 20 years ago a German green politician said this: We needed to stop talking about base-load and just accept that base-load power is a thing of the past.

    For most middle and working class homes a backup solution is a camping stove, candles and plenty of warm blankets. Maybe some powerbanks to keep the smartphone charged up. The wealthy can afford solar panels, a basement with batteries and a diesel generator. Which is another thing: Why are so many of the biggest environmental campaigners wealthy? Just how much money is in the promotion of green and renewable energy solutions?

  7. Why are so many of the biggest environmental campaigners wealthy?

    Hefty cheques from one V. Putin, most likely.

  8. Why are so many of the biggest environmental campaigners wealthy?

    There is money in the green nonsense, but I suspect it is more the case that no one from a poor background could accept the nonsense. And certainly no one who is actually poor could afford any of it.

    We need more renewables

    I agree. If I lived in the UK, my chosen renewable would be wood, grown on my own land.

  9. There is money in the green nonsense

    There’s literally trillions riding on the scam, the massive debts Net Zero and the Paris Agreement require imposing on the entire planet means big money to financiers.

    When they tell you “you’ll own nothing”, they mean they’ll own you.

  10. @MC
    The problem with wood as an energy source is the grow/burn time ratio. Sustainable it ain’t.

  11. @ salamander
    Mostly MC’s first sentence – “Green” policies are a luxury item for those who have lots of cash to spare; however there are some (much fewer) people who have made money out of selling overpriced solar panels and windmills to those who can cash in on Ed Millionaireband’s over-generous subsidies. [I have some unsubsidised solar water-heating panels: the only “green” technology, other than than hydroelectricity that works well enough in the UK to be economic – so Millionaireband chose not to encourage it.]

  12. In 1995 when I was replacing my 100-year-old roof – the correct time to be considering roof-mounted energy systems – I made enquiries locally about solar heating systems, and the local supplier had gone bust due to lack of interest. By the time it was The Big Thing 20 years later, it’s too late, I’ve already put a new roof on. Not gonna rip it off 80 years before it wears out and actually needs replacing.

  13. I wouldn’t worry about any of it.

    Since Lithuania decided to blockade Kaliningrad, WW3 just moved a giant step closer.

    So we’ll either get swamped with a nuclear tidal wave, just simply have a few nukes raining or of the sky on us, or more hopefully (if calmer heads prevail) it will just be a simple conventional war and the resulting energy demand of arms manufacturing will result in the government throwing up power stations left and right.

  14. CD – the new head of the British Army is openly talking ’bout getting ready to fight Russia, which is something we’d probably regard as extremely provocative if the head of the Russian army said the same thing about us.

    No doubt this is mostly motivated by domestic politics (trying to stop HM Gov shrinking the Army until they can all take the same bus to our next conflict), but it’s in line with the aggressive rhetoric from Boris, Liz and co.

    I don’t think they actually want WW3, they seem to just refuse to take the Russians seriously despite their large atomic stockpile and the ongoing carnage in Ukraine. There was a semi-amusing 1980’s satire called Whoops Apocalypse, but we’re living the dumbed down Tik Tok version. We are ruled by people who give the impression of never having been punched in the face, despite possessing extremely punchable mugs, so perhaps that’s a factor.

  15. I don’t think they actually want WW3, they seem to just refuse to take the Russians seriously despite their large atomic stockpile and the ongoing carnage in Ukraine.

    Nobody wanted WW1.
    It was meant to be a small incursion into a country to take some stuff as reparations for an assassination.
    Yet it turned into a meat grinder that killed over a million men in the first month.

    We are ruled by people who give the impression of never having been punched in the face, despite possessing extremely punchable mugs, so perhaps that’s a factor.

    Our beloved leaders seem to be intent on dragging us into a war, which will be a horrific nightmare. Of course they and their families won’t be on the front lines, paying the butcher’s bill themselves.
    As to why they would do this…
    If I’m being charitable, I’d say it was because they believe their own rhetoric about how the Ukrainians are winning everywhere, every skirmish and battle easily and the Russians aren’t a capable threat on the battlefield. (Reminds me of the guy in Wasp who complains that the alien military never lose a battle, yet seem to be retreating all over…)
    As I’m not feeling charitable towards our leaders, I think it is probably just the usual – a distraction from the complete godawful state of the country they have made it – power grids, social justice clowns gluing themselves to roads, hilariously high inflation, etc, etc.

    They could probably use a punch in the face. And shipping off to the front lines if they do somehow drag us into a war with Russia.

  16. the new head of the British Army is openly talking ’bout getting ready to fight Russia

    Nothing new there, the core concept of NATO from day 1 was being prepared to fight the Soviet Union aka Russia. Sure, NATO has developed some new business interests on the side, but the primary enemy is still Russia.

  17. “Time to make sure that the genny is fully fettled and charged with fresh petrol”

    Fettled by all means, but DON’T put any petrol in the tank until you actually need to run it. Instead keep it in sealed containers, which will greatly reduce the degradation which now accompanies petrol blended with ethanol. And for the (relatively) small amount you’re likely to use, buy “Super Unleaded” – not because the average genny needs it, but because it only contains a maximum 5% ethanol. Also, drain any remaining fuel once you’ve run it (the tank AND carburettor float bowl), to prevent any gunge forming and blocking jets etc. What I’m now doing is keeping the UK legal maximum of 6 gallons in steel jerry cans, refueling my old car with it, then putting fresh petrol in the cans. This means I have a good stock, but it’s also in decent condition.

  18. “I wonder how many rich people will be installing solar power and diesel generator back ups”

    It’s been widely reported in US blogs over the last couple of days that former president O’Bummer has just installed 3 large Propane thanks (totaling 2,500 gallons) at his beach front house. So he clearly doesn’t believe the “Rising Sea Levels” bollocks, and also knows full well that a large pile of bovine excrement is about to be ingested by all those useless wind farms…

  19. My electorate has gentrified so much that we’ve elected a Green representative.

    I’d wondered at the addiction to propane tanks in my street.

    Thank you Dave for informing me of the reason why!!!!

  20. MC @ 12.12 = Do they make cars that run on wood?

    Dave Ward @ 08.16. AFAIAA, Esso Synergy Supreme is labelled E5 because it has to be (labelled, that is) but in much of England, where the supply is from Esso’s own refineries, it doesn’t actually contain ethanol. I had a problem in the fuel pump on my bike some years ago where the ethanol had reacted with the resin glue around the electrical connections causing an intermittent fault.

    Ethanol in petrol – another one of those great ideas by ‘experts’ without a clue……

  21. @ Addolff ~ June 21, 2022 at 5:30 am

    You can buy a kit to remove alcohol from petrol – the principle is simple but this just makes it easy. The suppliers have an associated comments section where folks list the actual percentage they get from various brands, and most are well under the 5% limit. As you note, some have no alcohol at all.

  22. Jim @ 09.02. The Italians were short of coal during WW2, so they used herbs to power their trains. This was how Mussolini made the trains run on thyme…….

    Dave. There wasn’t a problem until they decided to put ethanol into petrol. So, they add ethanol to petrol to reduce the amount of fossil fuel in petrol, but this fucks up older engines (and new ones if you leave it to sit in the tank too long – it is hygroscopic) and unnecessarily diverts food that could be feeding humans and animals into petrol. They then suggest putting something else (which no doubt has horrific side effects at some point) into the petrol they have fucked up to fix the side effects of putting ethanol into the petrol.

    Lunatics. Asylum.

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