Umm, why?

The Government should offer free abortions to women from the US who are unable to secure them, British doctors have said.

The move by the British Medical Association follows the decision by the US Supreme Court to overturn the Roe v Wade ruling, ending American women’s legal right to have abortions.

Currently, overseas patients are able to have abortions in the UK but are charged a fee.

Why should taxpayers here pay for it? Apparently the reason is because the NHS should never charge foreigners.

Proposing the motion, medical student and women’s rights campaigner Marina Politis described the situation in the US as an “emergency”, saying: “Abortion is essential health care… In [some] cases, the US Supreme Court decision is a death sentence. In other, less risky, pregnancies, this decision still removes an essential right of the individual to choose what happens to their own body.”

She added: “In the context of a hostile environment, we have seen increased migrant charging. We also need to provide safe abortion care to all nationals seeking this in the UK, without subjecting them to overseas patient upfront tariffs – and this must be regardless of borders going far beyond the US.”

Bugger that.

33 thoughts on “Umm, why?”

  1. Pregnancy is a whole lot less risky than a stroke or bowel cancer.

    Does she suggest all foreigners should be treated for strokes or bowel cancer for free?

    Just this one thing then.

  2. I guess I’ll divert their proposed pay rise to ‘abortion on demand’ globally

    At least they are open about their end agenda – the destruction of all humanity prior to it even being born!

  3. I don’t know why someone would travel to the UK to get an abortion. It is still widely available in many states. Geographically covering the country from California to Illinois to New York. Unfortunately that disturbs the narrative that the US is descending into a cryptochristofascist state.

  4. In other words, the British taxpayer should pay for everything all foreigners want.

    Perhaps this Aussie should come to the UK!!!!!

  5. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    IMX, the NHS doesn’t know how to charge foreigners, at least if you turn up at a hospital A&E needing emergency care.

  6. @Chester Draws:

    Does she suggest all foreigners should be treated for strokes or bowel cancer for free?

    Yes, she probably would:- and any other ailments they suffer from too.

    @ Boganboy:

    In other words, the British taxpayer should pay for everything all foreigners want.

    That is the position of the left in the UK.

  7. The Meissen Bison

    Boganboy: Perhaps this Aussie should come to the UK!!!!!

    You could join DocBud in Guildford!

  8. The Other Bloke in Italy

    They really lust after their abortions.

    Is it a matter of psychology, or is something else going on with the little corpses?

  9. But in an emergency debate on the issue on Wednesday

    The outcome of a lawsuit they’re not party to in a foreign country 3,000 miles away is an “emergency”.

    Members also agreed to publicly condemn the US Supreme Court’s decision and to support doctors in the US who provided abortions.

    British doctors know better on American constitutional law than American jurists. It’s Science™!

    Modern doctors:
    medical student and women’s rights campaigner Marina Politis [she/her] described the situation in the US as an “emergency”, saying: “Abortion is essential health care

    Ancient doctors:
    Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art.

    Boris Johnson last week called the decision to overturn the landmark 1973 ruling a “big step backwards”.

    I wonder how many inconvenient bastards he’s had killed.

    Ms Sturgeon, who hosted a summit in Edinburgh on abortion rights in response, called it a “catastrophic and horrific” decision.

    Coincidentally, Mrs Sturgeon is an unpleasant barren woman who strongly supports LGBTQ+ indoctrination for children and massive, above-replacement-level Third World migration.

    Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, tweeted: “Today’s devastating Supreme Court decision is a massive setback for women’s rights in the United States of America.

    Subjects not worthy of Sir Keir’s concerned tweets include the industrial scale, organised sexual abuse of English children with the knowledge and acquiescence of British authorities.

  10. Does this Marina want the UK to pick up the travel and accommodation costs of these abortion tourists from the US as well?

  11. A woman certainly does have an “essential right…to choose what happens to their own body” Use contraception.

    I would like to know what examples she has to give of where the Supreme Court’s decision to pass the legislative control back to states is a “death sentence” for any woman.

  12. As I understand it, the Roe v Wade decision doesn’t end women’s rights to have an abortion, but devolved that particular decision to individual States. So, why don’t these people who support abortion move to a State which permits it, and those who disapprove of abortion, move to a State which prevents it? Alternatively, they could only have sex with men who cares enough to wear a johnny, or take a contraceptive pill.
    However, it’s probably easier, and cheaper, for them to fly to London, collapse at the airport, be taken to A&E, have the abortion, and fly back after a nice little relaxing holiday at the British taxpayer’s expense.

  13. Jonathan – too kind

    ANNRQ – I’m sure they’re working on some martyr stories as we speak. Remember what happened in Ireland? Or the Syrian Father of the Year who let his boy drown in pursuit of those sweet, sweet Western European bennies? Weaponised outrage and highly selective reporting are effective tools.

    Penseivat – a lot of modern politics, especially on the progressive side, is now ritualised humiliation of the Other (rub their noses in it, innit?). Demented hags and soyboys are angry that they don’t get to impose unlimited abortion up to and including at the moment of crowning on bigoted, backwards Christians from flyover states they will never visit. Disney, to take a random example, is happy to erase gay movie characters for Chinese and Russian audiences, but Satan help any US state that thinks it has the right to keep trannies out of their daughters’ school toilets, because that means open economic warfare with corporate America. It’s not so much that they love [Current Topic], they just hate those bastard plebs.

    See also: the importance of making sure parents have no say whatsoever in LGBTQIA+ grooming of their children by woke teachers, and the still-ongoing vilification and punishment of Trump supporters for having the temerity to believe democracy includes them.

  14. To quote William of Ockham, “Despite what the public statements of organisations such as Dick’s Sporting Goods or Atlassian might suggest, abortion is still legal in the USA, it’s just been downgraded from a Federal right enshrined in the Constitution, to a matter each State’s legislative body can write laws about. If you think this means California is about to ban or limit abortion next week, you’ve not been paying much attention to the changes in political mood of that State since Ronald Reagan was Governor.”

    https://www.williamofockham.com/2022/06/26/the-global-iq-tests-continue-to-be-set/

  15. “As I understand it, the Roe v Wade decision doesn’t end women’s rights to have an abortion, but devolved that particular decision to individual States. So, why don’t these people who support abortion move to a State which permits it, and those who disapprove of abortion, move to a State which prevents it? ”

    Its interesting that when a country (or US State) votes to raise taxes on everyone, including those who voted against such a move, the losers are told that ‘Well if you don’t like it you can always move!’ Somehow that principle doesn’t seem to apply here though…….

  16. I doubt very much they’d even remember to charge them. If you turn up to anywhere in this country, you will pretty much always get free care. Though with American incomes as high as they are, f they can afford a flight here, they can probably afford the BPAS charge.

  17. “But in an emergency debate on the issue on Wednesday …” means that they all still have the mindset of student politics.

    Years ago a bunch of students who disliked the pompous-gittery of student politics stood for election under the banner of Emergency Sherry Party. I liked that.

  18. @ANNRQ

    “A woman certainly does have an “essential right…to choose what happens to their own body” Use contraception.”

    A related issue: Should a woman have the right to choose whether her body carries to term a baby based on a genetic test for what sex it is / what skin colour it will have / what IQ it will have? In practice almost all sides in this debate think there should be some restrictions on what a woman can do with her own body in relation to a pregnancy – even the “abortion for any personal whim right up to the moment of birth” apparent-absolutists would mostly blanch at the notion this whim should be allowed to include “because I don’t like the child’s sex/skin colour”.

  19. Southerner: “it’s just been downgraded from a Federal right enshrined in the Constitution,”

    The whole issue of Roe/Wade was that it was not. It was a very Lawyerese interpretation of the 14th, which was never meant for this kind of stuff.
    They never made that step: get the right to abortion into the Constitution as an Amendment. Because they damn well knew they’d never get the needed majority for it.

    The US Supreme Court made the right decision to boot it out: If you want to hang “universal rights” to a constitution you damn well go through Procedure ( and fail or succeed ) instead of sideloading it into an existing Amendment.

  20. Anon

    I think there are absolutists on both sides of the debate. A number of people who are ‘pro choice’ would almost certainly release and appoint Kermit Gosnell to the position of Surgeon-General, while others would make any woman who missed a period spend 9 months imprisoned until they give birth. Surely there has to be some kind of middle ground? (which in fairness most countries seem to have arrived at)

  21. Based on interpreting the law as Congress wrote it, the evil, no-good, illegitimate, anti-American US Supreme Court has just ruled in favour of the Biden administration’s efforts to drop Trump’s “remain in Mexico” rule for illegal immigrants.

    What should lefties do?

  22. VP – others would make any woman who missed a period spend 9 months imprisoned until they give birth

    Just the pretty ones, nobody wants a sex slave who looks like Nicola Sturgeon.

  23. “you’ve not been paying much attention to the changes in political mood of that State since Ronald Reagan was Governor”

    Wasn’t it Regan who as governor opposed a move to sack all gay teachers in California. We’ve come a long way in a short time despite the constant screeching about how much worse it all is now.

  24. Hear, hear! And flights, lodging, and food too. Maybe some spending money for the shops – bolster the local economy with that multiplier.

  25. The decision by the US Supreme Court to overturn the Roe v Wade ruling, ending American women’s legal right to have abortions That’s a lie

    Should NHS pay for their visas, flights, hotel etc too? Another virtue signaling platitude from an allegedly intelligent medical student

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