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  1. In the absence of your thought-provoking blog, what to think about? 🙂

    Can anyone explain why the PRC is so hysterical about Pelosi’s planned visit to Taiwan?
    I would have thought they’d be all for it.

    So Taiwan, you want make trouble? Want independence hiding behind US power?
    Take good look at US power visiting you now.
    You want to bet your land and lives on the like of THAT!!!?

    A visit by Pelosi should wake up quite a lot of the Taiwanese establishment to some real world hard truths. Got your own nukes? No, well don’t rock the boat then. You will do what President Eleven says, ‘cos President * is even more incapable than Pelosi.

  2. Neither Nancy, Kamala nor Joe can form a coherent sentence of more than three words at the moment.

    The rest of the world looks on as the US administration goes through an elaborate horrific pantomime where everyone pretends there’s nothing wrong and plain, objective facts are ignored and denied.

  3. TtC – China’s government seems increasingly tired of the USA government’s shit, and decreasingly inclined to do the mild-mannered polite Chinaman act. They should probably be taken seriously when they warn Pelosi not to go to Taipei, but idk if the dying hegemon is capable of detente anymore. And China has its own problems, which may make international breast-beating more attractive.

  4. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    Tim, to understand Taiwan:

    World: So when are you going to declare independence?

    Taiwan: Independence? From what?

    World: Er, from China of course.

    Taiwan: Why would we declare independence from ourselves?

  5. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    I see Steve supporting the oppression of billions by tyrants again, because we have a temporary (and resolvable, with sufficient resolve on the part of the unwoke) issue in the west.

  6. @Steve
    decreasingly inclined to do the mild-mannered polite Chinaman act

    What mild-mannered polite Chinaman act? Have you listened or read any of their official rantings even on the most minor of topics? They are intolerant, angry little fuckers.

  7. BiFR – I see Steve supporting the oppression of billions by tyrants again

    Blimey.

    asiaseen – Traditionally, China was a lot more diplomatic in their diplomatic language about the US. (Especially compared with the US, hard to imagine a senior regime figure from China openly talking about ‘confronting’ or ‘containing’ the US but the reverse is considered normal.)

    I agree that the Oriental obsession with ‘face’ covers deep emotions and the various historical grievances they’re still actively seething about.

  8. “the various historical grievances they’re still actively seething about”: I think their objection to ‘unequal treaties’ is that traditionally China forced such things on her neighbours while not expecting to have them forced on her.

  9. Steve tends to put a lot of faith in what tyrants say, as he ignores what they do.

    Hope you enjoy a bunch of smug non-answers, beating around the bush, massive omissions, unwarranted contrarianism, links to some bloke on a blog somewhere, autistic sense of humor, adolescent retorts and absolutely no constructive contribution.

    Best to simply talk to Chinese and Taiwanese immigrants if you want a well-rounded, accurate answer.

  10. Traditionally, China was a lot more diplomatic in their diplomatic language about the US.
    And Chairman Mao was just a cuddly old uncle

  11. DM – I think their objection to ‘unequal treaties’ is that traditionally China forced such things on her neighbours while not expecting to have them forced on her.

    No doubt. But isn’t that every great power?

    Dbdhfjf – Steve tends to put a lot of faith in what tyrants say, as he ignores what they do.

    Hope you enjoy a bunch of smug non-answers, beating around the bush, massive omissions, unwarranted contrarianism, links to some bloke on a blog somewhere, autistic sense of humor, adolescent retorts and absolutely no constructive contribution.

    Gay.

    Chromatistes – The Chinese blast her off her broomstick. What’s not to like?

    I’m sure she’ll be fine so long as a house doesn’t fall on her.

    BiS – And Chairman Mao was just a cuddly old uncle

    Yet Nixon went to China and shook his hand.

  12. “BiS – And Chairman Mao was just a cuddly old uncle
    Yet Nixon went to China and shook his hand.”

    This is what passes for an argument in Steveland.

  13. Thank goodness you’re back Tim; I thought Spudfeld had sent one of his minions after you….

    Today’s mood seems to be, for some reason, ‘War with China’.

  14. Yet Nixon went to China and shook his hand.

    Yes, a massive strategic blunder that we’re paying for today. If the CCP had been left isolated in its shitty communist mess it might have actually fallen by now. Instead, the completely unnecessary appeasement of evil has led to them being a near peer power.

    Fortunately the commies seem to want to revert to communism and isolation. Hopefully that’ll keep ’em just near rather than peer.

  15. If (god forbid) any kind of government-sanctioned persecution, foreign invasion, etc. occurred in Steve’s neck o’ the woods, we’d have his blessing to shrug and say, “He was no saint either, so whatevs.”

  16. I was assuming that the CCP lab accidentally released the (mostly harmless) virus and then opportunistically exploited it to sow panic in the West. Then they declared the virus eliminated and went back to selling plastic tat and dodgy electronics to us mugs.

    But now it appears they actually believe this shit about fatal disease and the possibility of zero covid.

    So I’m very confused. Perhaps they’re just stupid? Let’s hope so.

  17. But now it appears they actually believe this shit about fatal disease and the possibility of zero covid.

    Nah, they’re just using it to reassert themselves.

  18. PJF – Was it a blunder? Engagement with China worked to both countries’ benefit for many years, and was preferable to war with China, which the West had a taste of just 20 years before Nixon’s visit. There were other options, but no guarantee they’d turn out better.

    Nixon didn’t, of course, invite them into the WTO, stuff their pockets full of gold, and happily wave ta-ta to trillions of dollars worth of American manufacturing know-how and jobs as they set sail for the Orient. That was Clinton, Dubya and Obama.

    Idk about them being a “peer”. Peer of whom? China is a lot bigger, a lot richer, and a lot more powerful than Britain is. Their economy is six times the size of ours. They’ll likely overtake the USA too.

    Because they’re not communist except on paper, in fact they’re a lot more capitalistic and free-market than we are. China has lower taxes and less regulation than any Western country – some communists.

    If we think China is evil tho, the good news is they have massive problems of their own creation, with no obvious solutions. Their demographics are absolutely horrible and they’ve inflated the biggest property bubble in human history. Countries with shrinking populations don’t get to take over the world.

    It’ll be an Asian century, but probably without the massive gulf in technological capabilities and living standards that marked the difference between the West and the Rest in the 20th century… unless Net Zero goes unchallenged. We don’t have much to fear from China, but we should be very afraid of what our own leaders have planned for us.

  19. @Steve

    …some communists…

    Agree with the other stuff, except China is undoubtedly communist, even when compared to the UK.

    In fact, Mr. Worstall has written before that communism, capitalism, socialism, etc. are often conflated with the distinction between planned and free-market economies. For instance, in the U.S., a law firm may be owned by its partners (socialism), but it is a consensual business relationship, not enforced by the government. They also charge fees according to the market and compete with other firms in the market as well. In contrast, taxes may be lower in China than in the UK, but the media and even companies like TikTok are owned and controlled ultimately by the government. Who’s to say the CCP won’t raise taxes drastically on a whim?

    There’s also the social aspect of communism, such as Xi telling all Christians to replace pictures of Jesus with himself, because “Jesus won’t save you.” Celebrities are technically no longer legal, just because, so there goes the influencer industry they once had. I may or may not care so much about that one.

    But taxes don’t equal communism. Otherwise, you’re just making the argument Bernie Sanders makes when he claims Denmark is socialist.

  20. Apologies for the repeated posts, I didn’t see Dbdhfjf’s message (Steve really needs to remember his Steve spectacles):

    If (god forbid) any kind of government-sanctioned persecution, foreign invasion, etc. occurred in Steve’s neck o’ the woods

    If? If, he says. Lol, and possibly even rofl.

    I live in a country where the authorities actively cover for vibrantly diverse grooming gangs, the state sees immigration law enforcement as strictly optional, and you can lose your job or even go to jail for a growing list of verboten opinions. Including anodyne stuff such as observing that white lives matter too or that women don’t have dicks. Public policy is deliberately intended to make us poorer, anti-English racial agitprop is taught in schools, and the NHS is delighted to introduce children to sex change hormones. We’ve just spent 2 years and countless billions (that we don’t actually have) imposing insane health fascism on 70 million people over the equivalent of a nasty cold.

    But at least we don’t live in one of those weird authoritarian regimes. “¯\_(ツ)_/¯”

  21. If we think China is evil tho, the good news is they have massive problems of their own creation, with no obvious solutions.

    The problem is, countries with massive problems tend to blame ‘the other’. Especially if created by the government policy.

    “It’s not our policies at fault for high petrol prices, it’s those evil profiteering petrol station owners.”
    -Joe Biden (paraphrased – after years of denying oil exploration and pipeline construction permits).

    So it’s quite possible that the CCP, in an attempt to distract from the problems they have, start some war with a neighbour or somebody not so near .

  22. Nixon didn’t, of course, invite them into the WTO, stuff their pockets full of gold, and happily wave ta-ta to trillions of dollars worth of American manufacturing know-how and jobs as they set sail for the Orient. That was Clinton, Dubya and Obama.

    The engagement with communist China went in one direction since Nixon (really Kissinger). Carter normalised diplomatic relations, and Reagan opened up trade:

    https://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/06/world/reagan-decides-to-relax-curbs-on-china-trade.html

    Bush senior outrageously appeased the communist’s brutal crackdown on its own people in 1989. No “new world order” for those poor fuckers; just more “not communism except on paper” for them.

    Nothing was to get in the way of the cheap labour project. Clinton, Dubya and Obama just carried on.

  23. @Steve

    I live in a country where the authorities actively cover for vibrantly diverse grooming gangs, the state sees immigration law enforcement as strictly optional, and you can lose your job or even go to jail for a growing list of verboten opinions.

    A group of people is reacting logically to XYZ and anything else you’ve done to deserve this treatment, and you have the audacity to whine about it? Such an NPC. Mr. I-Support-The-Current-Thing right here.

    Move to Russia. Same difference, right? May as well be around the more attractive women.

  24. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    We have absolutely no clue what the Chinese leadership (Jinping) know or believe about covid.

    The theatre is theatre. It is for domestic consumption, global consumption, and also to rid China of foreigners. You can’t even get into Hong Kong without mandatory quarantine.

    Beyond that, we have no idea if Jinping really thinks it is a threat or is merely instrumentalizing it, primarily in those places that are a little more skeptical about the glory of the CCP than others.

    He is definitely instrumentalizing, it, but I would not like to hazard a guess as to whether he is really frightened of it or not.

  25. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    Steve, there is a lot to agree with in your basic outlook on things, on the west at least. We are busy allowing a bunch of hormonal teenage lunatics to strangle the most successful civilization ever, just because it isn’t perfect.

    We need to stop that, by stopping allowing them to set the agenda. The less we talk about trans, bugs, carbon, and being happy while owning nothing, the better.

    This is actually really fucking important, if you look at what happened to civilized places in the past because they let hormonal teenage lunatics point out that it wasn’t perfect (and if you’ll just sign up to our utopia…)

    That doesn’t make the rest of the planet all right. Stop the black and white thinking – work out how to fight back. We need your mind on that.

  26. “but the media and even companies like TikTok are owned and controlled ultimately by the government”

    Which is different to the West exactly how? I mean the media was so all over the State when it decided to lock everyone in their houses, wasn’t it? Oh, no it just was the State’s poodle, tripping over itself to demand the State had even more powers over people. And as for businesses being controlled by the government, does anyone really think that any business in the West would be allowed to threaten the State’s interests without getting the full ‘Nice business you’ve got there, it would be a shame if anything happened to it’ treatment?

  27. @Jim

    The Western media was a lapdog for the State when Trump and the GOP controlled the presidency, Senate and Supreme Court?

    CNN+ was a lapdog for Biden. It failed after less than a month. Netflix just lost like 200,000 subscribers. Box just laid off a bunch of its employees. As we speak, even during the Biden presidency, there are a ton of conservative or simply free-speech social media platforms in operation, where a ton of anti-State content is published. GETTR recently celebrated its 1-year anniversary. Fox News, Newsmax, RSB, OAN, plus all of the podcasters gaining momentum. There is such a thing as market forces in the West.

    You also underestimate the amount of power that citizens in the West allow the government to have. It is entirely possible for people to vote out any politician, as San Franciscans recently did with their DA. Citizens also have the ability to boycott or support any media network they choose. Fox News’ primetime lineup outranks every other cable news network, often all of them combined.

    When successful business magnates run into excessive regulations or dirty politics, instead of whining about it, they find a loophole and embarrass the government bureaucrats in the process. That’s what Project Veritas, Babylon Bee, Libs of TikTok, Epoch Times, Andy Ngo, Tim Pool, Gavin McInnes, Greg Gutfeld, Ryan Long, Tim Dillon, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Michael Malice, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Matt Walsh and the others were able to do.

    The uncomfortable truth is that the U.S. really is split in ideology. Look at how many citizens still wore masks and tattled on dissidents even when they didn’t have any coercion to do so. Luckily for us, we have citizens with guns if it really hits the fan, and we were founded on the Freedom of Speech. The only thing in the way of our citizens and freedom is the control that citizens give the federal government when we vote for big spenders and their policies. There’s a difference between the populace getting what they voted for, and the populace getting what they were forced to vote for.

    In the UK, half those people don’t even believe in the right to self-defense. Many Canadians think it’s okay to close truckers’ bank accounts because “fuck you and your freedom.” That’s a cultural problem. Boris and Trudeau weren’t simply born into office. People voted them in. Just as Trump was voted in. At some point you have to take responsibility for not being convincing enough to persuade other people to consider your point of view.

    Brits can start by exposing how pathetic it is to want to remain in the EU. Somehow, a big chunk of your country still needs convincing. Stop being polite and dignified, and challenge your elites. Start demanding free speech, and make sure to outsmart the bureaucrats when they try to stop you. There is a misconception that your opposition has to be obliterated in order to win. You only need to convince 5-10% of the population to have leverage against the Establishment.

  28. @ Dbdhfjf

    I agree with your general thrust but disagree in various particulars.

    The Western media was a lapdog for the State when Trump and the GOP controlled the presidency, Senate and Supreme Court?

    Are you not confusing the nominal ‘State’ with the real State? The western media seems to have sucked up everything the CIA and the FBI fed it, and it was not pro Trump. I ‘m not Trumpist, though I do think he was the west’s best shot, along with Brexit, at challenging globalist control, and I don’t think it’s coincidental that Covid came along to screw our economies, nor that the media – which is highly globalist – got right in alongside the Covid narrative. (I’m not using ‘globalist’ as a synonym for ‘Jewish’, by the way, before anyone suggests it.)

    CNN+ was a lapdog for Biden. It failed after less than a month.

    But CNN’s still there, and MSNBC, and The View, and the Atlantic, and the NYT, and the WaPo, and most regional dailies, and Wikipedia, and google, and social media, and so on and so forth.

    Netflix just lost like 200,000 subscribers. [V]ox just laid off a bunch of its employees.,/i>

    These are definitely victories.

    As we speak, even during the Biden presidency, there are a ton of conservative or simply free-speech social media platforms in operation, where a ton of anti-State content is published. GETTR recently celebrated its 1-year anniversary. Fox News, Newsmax, RSB, OAN, plus all of the podcasters gaining momentum. There is such a thing as market forces in the West.

    That is true, but excepting Fox how many ordinary people know about this stuff? I’m a big fan of Ace of Spades, but I don’t know any other Brits who follow it. I assume quite a ew Yanks do, but one of daughters is going out with an American – a right-wing USAF guy – and he hadn’t heard of it. Most westerners are in my experience too busy working, getting pissed, eatching shit on the TV to really care. This is the issue with the west; it’s too successful for its own good. People are fat, lazy and unbothered. That may be about to change, of course!

    You also underestimate the amount of power that citizens in the West allow the government to have. It is entirely possible for people to vote out any politician, as San Franciscans recently did with their DA. Citizens also have the ability to boycott or support any media network they choose. Fox News’ primetime lineup outranks every other cable news network, often all of them combined.

    I don’t know if the last election was ‘stolen’, but it certainly produced a strange result. Over here we have blatant voter fraud esp in more ‘patriarchal’ areas of society, where dad votes for both of his wives and all sixteen kids. But, sure, you can vote different people in. The question is, how does it work out? We just voted in an alleged Conservative government with a majority of 80. I don’t know how much you know about UK politics, but this effectively gave them carte blanche to do whatever they wanted for the next four or five years. They seem to be hell-bent on doing so – it’s just not what most of the people who voted for them want. And that’s another issue: I think things are changing over there, esp with eg Hispanic and black voters switching to the GOP, but over here we really do have tribal idiots who will vote for ‘their’ party and cheer when they get elected, even as they do to them exactly what the other cheek of the uniparty arse was going to do to them.

    When successful business magnates run into excessive regulations or dirty politics, instead of whining about it, they find a loophole and embarrass the government bureaucrats in the process. That’s what Project Veritas, Babylon Bee, Libs of TikTok, Epoch Times, Andy Ngo, Tim Pool, Gavin McInnes, Greg Gutfeld, Ryan Long, Tim Dillon, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Michael Malice, Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Matt Walsh and the others were able to do.

    None of the people you name are ‘successful business magnates’ are they? I mean, I’ve heard of them all, and like most of them, but I’m interested. I bet you could knock on a lot of dopors in the US and find no-one who had a scooby doo who they were. As to the first part, that successful business magnates run into excessive regulations or dirty politics and find a loophole, I wish this were true, but I think most of them are benefiting from the regulations (as barriers to entry to competitors) and from the dirty politics (which is how politicians always build these ‘war chests’ which, amazingly, they brag about rather than seeing them entered into evidence.

    The uncomfortable truth is that the U.S. really is split in ideology.

    Yep, this is true here, too. I think this divide has been if not quite created then certainly exacerbated by our politicians and our media, and our education system, for their own ends. I have younger cousins – kids from good, solid conservative families – who are so deep into the climate change shit you wouldn’t believe it. Or maybe you would. They are happy to destroy the economy because it’s for a good cause (in their minds). They’re not stupid, they’re just educated.

    Look at how many citizens still wore masks and tattled on dissidents even when they didn’t have any coercion to do so.

    It was ever thus, sadly. Again, our politicians and our media and our other ‘services’ – police, ‘hjealth’, ‘education’ – combined to turn it into a moral issue. ‘My mask protects you’ was genius, and on a par with ‘Arbeit macht frei’ and ‘Daddy, What did YOU do in the Great War?’ (The Great War, for fuck’s sake.)

    Luckily for us, we have citizens with guns if it really hits the fan,

    This is lucky for all of us, but it’s also why the US is at the tip of the spear both in terms of the globalist agenda and in terms of the fightback. If you lose, we’re all finished.

    and we were founded on the Freedom of Speech. The only thing in the way of our citizens and freedom is the control that citizens give the federal government when we vote for big spenders and their policies. There’s a difference between the populace getting what they voted for, and the populace getting what they were forced to vote for.

    See above my scepticism about voting, but I do take your point. Freedom of speech is vital, which is why the above government agencies and, to repeat myself, the fucking media, are so against it.

    In the UK, half those people don’t even believe in the right to self-defense.

    That’s not true. Most people believe absolutely in the right to self defence – just (among the Guardian reading classes) not so much for other people. One of the great hopes I have is that I wake up in the mornming and find that the children of a few judges, chief constables, politicians, and editors were all at a party and a load of Somalis bust in and killed them all, horribly. I’m not even joking. The insulation felt by the elites must be destroyed (and I’m one of the elites).

    Many Canadians think it’s okay to close truckers’ bank accounts because “fuck you and your freedom.” That’s a cultural problem.

    See above re climate change and masks – it’s an education problem, and you can’t educate stupid people. (Unfortunately, intelligence doesn’t always fix this: a percentage of intelligewnt people will actually believe the shit teachers tell them.) They (media etc) made this a moral issue. Freedom of speech doesn’t trump the right not to be killed – and the media told people the truckers wanted (effectively) to kill people.

    Boris and Trudeau weren’t simply born into office. People voted them in. Just as Trump was voted in. At some point you have to take responsibility for not being convincing enough to persuade other people to consider your point of view.

    See above re elections but I generally mostly concede the point.

    Brits can start by exposing how pathetic it is to want to remain in the EU. Somehow, a big chunk of your country still needs convincing.

    The income of a very big chunk of the country depends of things like the EU, the NHS, schools, other State services – the State employees many millions of people. A lot of the anti Brxit types werre selfish cunts who just like going skiing in France and don’t want to queue at asirports – I fall into this category myself, but I flatter myself that I see the bigger picture – and, for me, Brexit was only the start. One layer of fat removed, where next? But yes, we’ve tried to convice them, and we basically did – hence the vote, trouble is that Net Zero, Covid and Ukraine based economic catastrophe is being wrought on us and blamed on Brexit and, again, people are simple and inattentive.

    Stop being polite and dignified, and challenge your elites. Start demanding free speech, and make sure to outsmart the bureaucrats when they try to stop you. There is a misconception that your opposition has to be obliterated in order to win. You only need to convince 5-10% of the population to have leverage against the Establishment.

    Agreed!

  29. Many Canadians think it’s okay to close truckers’ bank accounts because “fuck you and your freedom.” That’s a cultural problem.

    I would happily stamp on Trudeau’s face* but I was in two minds about the “truckers”. On the one hand I liked the rebelliousness because it was on my “side”, on the other they were blocking the border and blocking the streets with a mind to challenge the legitimately elected government.

    When the miners challenged the UK government via illegal activity, Maggie sequestered their assets (plus legitimised greenery in propaganda against coal). If it’s not okay for eco-twats to block the streets (and it fucking isn’t, judge bastards) then it isn’t okay for lockdown objectors.

    *very unreasonable but he’s such a cunt.

  30. “The Western media was a lapdog for the State when Trump and the GOP controlled the presidency, Senate and Supreme Court?”

    Its amusing you think that the President, Senate and Supreme Court are ‘the State’.

    And on the issue of Western countries being just as bad as the likes of Putin, I offer you this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/26/british-pro-kremlin-video-blogger-graham-phillips-added-to-uk-government-russia-sanctions-list

    Say things the State doesn’t like, have all your assets seized with no come back whatsoever.

  31. … on the other they were blocking the border and blocking the streets with a mind to challenge the legitimately elected government.

    As I recall it, the border blockages came after being ignored (other than being vilified and threatened) by the Powers that Be. Blocking the streets in Ottawa isn’t illegal – I have never heard of Extinction Rebellion or Greenpeace members even being given a good stern lecture after doing the same, much less having their assets stolen over it. When a group of ‘protesters’ attacked a construction camp with axes and tried to burn it and the workers to the ground, it didn’t even raise an official eyebrow.

  32. @Jim, July 31, 2022 at 5:09 pm

    Graham Phillips
    Say things the State doesn’t like, have all your assets seized with no come back whatsoever

    It’s horrendous and like UK is now USSR or China. Freespeech now officialy illegal in UK

    See:
    Peter Hitchens uses his Mail On Sunday column to defend Graham Phillips, a Donbas-based British video blogger who has been sanctioned by the U.K. Government for disseminating pro-Russian propaganda
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11065067/

    Wwe are not at war with Ruussia, even if we were frreespeech essential

    Patrick Lancaster, TCW, Speccie next?

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