PR release from CPRE:
There was an exponential rise in Best and Most Versatile (BMV) agricultural land set aside for housing and industry between 2010 and 2022, from 60 hectares to more than 6,000 hectares per year. Almost 300,000 homes were built on more than 8,000 hectares of prime farmland. This is despite there being space for 1.3 million homes to be built on more than 26,000 hectares of previously developed brownfield land, much of it disused and derelict urban patches of the midlands and north most in need of regeneration.
But no fucker wants to live in the Midlands or NE. That’s why houses aren’t built there.
Also, there are 17.5 million hectares of farmland in the UK.
Agricultural land and arable crop areas
The total utilised agricultural area (UAA) in the UK has decreased slightly, to just
under 17.5 million hectares. The area of total crops and permanent grassland have
also seen decreases, whereas uncropped arable land has seen a 57% increase.
Building on 0.03% of the farmland each year isn’t a problem. Now, will you please fuck off, you ghastly little twats?
And there’s much less, if any, profit after decontamination costs.
So, new green land for the middle classes in the South East since that’s where the money is, but only brownfield sites for the Midlands and the North. You know, maybe those Red Wall types have a point.
Truth is that green belt and greenfield site restrictions were always a subsidy to those just inside the developed zones. Since such restrictions raise prices (because massive demand but limited supply) to such an extent that most people under 40 cannot dream of owning their own home, then it sounds like the first party to stop subsidising high prices and promise to ride a coach-and-horses through planning regulations to get new homes built would probably win big time, so long as they actually delivered.
They could even, conceivably, be Tories (albeit in name only)
I think the key component of the Great Reset, or Murphy’s Courageous State (Which as the BiS points out has been the model for most political parties in the UK) is that it’s irrelevant what you want or need. Someone will make that decision for you.
So houses will be built on Brownfield sites in the North and Midlands and you will be forced to live there. Those houses will be rented and your property provided on an ‘as needs’ basis. Holidays will be allowed only in the metaverse and you will be fed on lab grown insects and other ‘environmentally friendly’ goods. You will be forced to take innumerable vaccines against all manner of diseases in order to be able to leave the house. Universal Basic income will be introduced but will be contingent on your acceptance of ‘woke’ propaganda as fact. Dissent will mean you use UBI and there will be no cash alternative.
Anyone who dismisses this as ‘impractical’ I’d agree it seems tough to implement but this is the declared agenda of the WEF and the UN.
The CPRE need not worry too much, Lockdowns and compulsory vaccination are causing a huge drop in population and fertility so the ‘over-population’ worry will soon subside. Almost all nations outside Africa are in a demographic death spiral so they ought not to over concern themselves….
Problem is that the demographic death spiral is caused by the young not being born rather than the old dying off early and imported Muslim layabouts to sit around on welfare still means our population is rising (certainly higher than the bullshit figures quoted in the UK 2021 Census).
When you start seeing houses empty and abandoned because nobody wants them at any price then I might buy the line of bullshit being flogged. As it is even pretty derelict / fire damaged properties sold for nominal sums are quickly being bought up, refurbished and sold for more than cost, so as I say, I don’t buy it.
One simple solution would be to force people who live in the South East and don’t work to live in half empty pit villages etc.
For example no one should live in benefits in Crawley whilst there is such shortage of staff in the airlines.
A bit tough on people like me who are too tall but worth it.
Not sure which is worse…enforcing mudslime immigrants onto Welsh pit villages or the reverse.
I know there’s some programme to relocate “Asylum seekers” away from the home counties, but that’s just moving the problem of housing pressure to places that are less able to afford it.
Distributing the problem isn’t solving it.
@David
One simple solution would be to force people who live in the South East and don’t work to live in half empty pit villages etc.
It amazes me that this hasn’t been done. Fifteen years ago my brother (who went on to work for the fucking Tories at quite a senior level) was renting a shithole in Brixton while people on benefits were living in (then) £1.5 million townhouses in Islington.
If I remember correctly, there was some noise about moving them out of these sorts of homes and putting them in Burnley, or somewhere, but this was said to be ethnic cleansing, or something, and so it never happened.
I had pub discussions about it with lefties I knew – they were genuinely outraged at the suggestion, so it wasn’t just media and quango confabulation.
We are too stupid to be saved, unfortunately.
Sort of OT but not completely: Russia is stealthily finalising an energy embargo of Europe. Nord Stream 1 is down for ‘maintenance’, all the other pipes are being throttled (except, so far, Turkstream), and yesterday Gazprom served notice that it won’t guarantee any future supply. You don’t need to be Mystic Meg to see where this is going.
What this means is the Russians aren’t going to allow Europe to fill up its storage facilities before the winter. Unless alternative supply is found, and there’s no short term alternative, there will be energy rationing very soon. Governments won’t wait till the lights go off, they’ll start reducing demand in the meantime.
The effects are likely to be catastrophic for Europe and the UK. A winter of discontent like we’ve never seen before, more price shocks, more fertiliser shortages feeding into global food scarcity, more job losses and business collapses as firms find themselves unable to operate in the new high-cost, limited supply environment.
Stock up while it’s still warm and the normies haven’t yet caught on to what’s coming, blokes. It can’t hurt you and probably will help given the current trajectory of events.
Idk, am I tinfoil hatting here? Anybody think this will blow over?
@John
Distributing the problem isn’t solving it.
Depends what you mean by ‘the problem’. Housing layabouts in multi-million pound accommodation at the expense of taxpayers is a problem, and shifting the idle fuckers to Welsh pit villages is a solution to that problem.
This is one of those things that can’t be left to ‘the market’ and ‘personal choice’, as long as the playing field is corrupted by benefits.
My preferred option would be to do away with benefits, and see how keen people are to starve rather than pick strawberries, but that would take a cultural change of which we are certainly no longer capable.
“But no fucker wants to live in the Midlands or NE. That’s why houses aren’t built there.”
This fucker gladly lives in NE. No brown faces to speak of, no traffic jams, excellent walking and rambling, no wokery amongst the natives (except university people), cheaper houses, same shops, nicer pubs, better beer, friendly people.
Not as affluent as in Surrey or Kent but it’s hardly Beirut…
Please don’t spread this info, let’s keep it a secret, eh?
Steve, perhaps also start piling up a cash reserve? If you haven’t heard yet listen to the end bit of Delingpole’s recent Francis Hunt interview.
@ Steve
Idk, am I tinfoil hatting here? Anybody think this will blow over?
I regret to say I think you are not.
Why we ‘stood with Ukraine’ in any way other than rhetorically remains mysterious.
This was a war that while obviously horrible was none of our business – WTF do Britons care which language is on the street signs in Kiev?
Our national interest would have been served not by arming one side and sanctioning the other but by hoping it was over as quickly as possible and with as little bloodshed as possible, ideally via a negotiated settlement that was acceptable to both sides (and if not acceptable to one of them, they fight and win or lose – that’s the way of wars).
Instead we have assisted in the prolongation of the whole sorry business, by extension the deaths of many, many, more Ukrainians (and Russians, come to that), and, shortly, either the humiliation of the west by climbing down, or the freezing and starving of Western Europe and, unavoidably, some number of deaths which could run into seven figures, accompnaied by the actual collapse of the world economy.
Since all of the wankers jostling to become British PM are falling over themselves to be the most standiest with Ukraine, a position which seems to be mirrored elsewhere, death via starvation and freezing seems frighteningly likely.
It is just possible that the prospect of the complete ruination of the German and western and indeed world economies will bring them to their senses, but unfortunately, and amazingly, the actions of western leaders suggest that this is actually what is intended.
It’s a bit hard when the lazy phuqers on welfare also have the vote. The only alternative seems to be managed decline a la Charles III / William V (“Après moi, le déluge”) and then to rebuild along that Anglo Saxon Protestant work ethic after the Interegnum.
Still, lots of people would need to be given the lamp post / piano wire treatment before the great national rebirth.
@Jussi
Steve, perhaps also start piling up a cash reserve?
Not the worst idea I’ve heard – the worst idea was ‘stick pins in your own eyes’.
Cash is shortly looking likely to be worth barely the paper it was printed on; I am converting whatever I can into usable and tangible items like the preppers of old.
@John
It’s a bit hard when the lazy phuqers on welfare also have the vote.
As I said, that would be a cultural change of which we are no longer capable. Democracy has had its day. Rule by proven liars, thieves, cheats and incompetents is no way to go through life.
I don’t have an alternative, unfortunately.
Interested
‘Dispersal’ as the policy was labelled was tried. There was a high profile case brought under the HRA which saw the unelected judiciary strike it down as illegal. A lot of the Eastern Europeans that came over in Wave 1 were quite happy to go to some of these cheaper towns/areas (integration probably easier for them being Christian/ White) so the problem was downgraded in importance but it would be part of a solution for sure. Which is why there’s almost no chance of it happening.
The effects are likely to be catastrophic for Europe and the UK. A winter of discontent like we’ve never seen before, more price shocks, more fertiliser shortages feeding into global food scarcity, more job losses and business collapses as firms find themselves unable to operate in the new high-cost, limited supply environment.
Stock up while it’s still warm and the normies haven’t yet caught on to what’s coming, blokes. It can’t hurt you and probably will help given the current trajectory of events.
Idk, am I tinfoil hatting here? Anybody think this will blow over?
Nope you are not tinhatting at all – this is the chance for the likes of Murphy to fulfil the prophecy of Yeats in ‘The Second coming’
I don’t think people have any idea how bad things are going to get.
– Power outages/rolling blackouts are a virtual certainty
– Starvation is very likely for millions
– Coming on top of that will be ‘Climate Change’ Lockdowns for at least 9 months (and for the unvaccinated permanent)
– It’s highly probable your assets will be seized to compensate those coming over on the boats in their thousands
So yes – be afraid and start prepping up now!!
Interested, and when your debit card doesn’t work at the local co-op this coming winter will you offer payment in turnips or perhaps in gold sovereigns?
@Jussi
Interested, and when your debit card doesn’t work at the local co-op this coming winter will you offer payment in turnips or perhaps in gold sovereigns?
I don’t think I mentioned either turnips or gold sovereigns, but both would be more useful than cash in the event of financial collapse towards which – and I’m open to counter-arguments, believe me – I think we’re heading.
@VP
I don’t think people have any idea how bad things are going to get.
Sadly I concur.
One increasing use of farmland near me is for ‘solar farms’ – acres of panels that prevent the land being farmed again. As location is not an issue for grid connection, these could quite easily be placed on brownfield siteS, which, by definition, are likely to have infrastructure already in place. Of course, the landowners would have to keep working for their money, but…..
Interested,
“If I remember correctly, there was some noise about moving them out of these sorts of homes and putting them in Burnley, or somewhere, but this was said to be ethnic cleansing, or something, and so it never happened.
I had pub discussions about it with lefties I knew – they were genuinely outraged at the suggestion, so it wasn’t just media and quango confabulation.”
This is just classic weak wet Toryism from the past decade. Fuck the “ethnic cleansing” people. It’s absolute bullshit and by people who aren’t ever going to vote for you. Why… why do the Tories submit to their non-customers?
Quite simply no-one working should have to commute past unemployed people. That’s immoral and wasteful. If people can sit idle in an expensive house all day, they can sit idle in a cheap house all day. Cap housing benefit at whatever the median rent is in the UK for starters. It’ll save the country billions per year getting people out from the South East.
Ian J
That’s part of the Great Reset. A move to insect proteins and lab grown food instead of meat. Again – there’ll be no element of choice involved in this according to Klaus Schwab.
Jussi – that’s good advice, thanks
Interested – I’m especially surprised Germany (and by extension, the EU) is going along with Uncle Sam’s Wild Ride. They have so much more to lose than we do – their entire industrial base.
It’s true they were going to try to Net Zero people into poverty anyway, but I think they meant for a planned and phased collapse in living standards, salami slicing away personal liberty and private property in typical EU style so the proles wouldn’t catch on. Germany is the EU’s paypig, as in they literally pay for the PIGS. If the music stops in Berlin, everybody in Europe will be scrambling for too few seats.
We’ve sanctioned ourselves in the balls, at the worst possible time.
VP – we’ve bought a bunch of long shelf life tinned and dry foods.
Steve
I don;t think it will save us but clearly the WEF (which is pulling the strings) wanted it accelerated and saw COVID as the opportunity to push their agenda. The ‘War’ was the second chance as well. I agree the EU is much more along the ‘Boiling Frog’ approach normally but it is being manipulated by an even greater evil.
Cap housing benefit at whatever the median rent is in the UK for starters.
No – just abolish housing benefit completely.
What are the landlords going to do – demolish the buildings? Or might they just reduce the rent they ask?
I realise that house prices might come down – I’m not seeing this as an altogether bad thing either…..
@BoM$
Fuck the “ethnic cleansing” people. It’s absolute bullshit and by people who aren’t ever going to vote for you. Why… why do the Tories submit to their non-customers?
It took Covid for me to really understand it, because for the first time I was confronted with literally insane and all-encompassing policies pursued at vast expense with determination and rigour and the support of the entire media, whereas before I saw piecemeal bits of expensive idiocy, which might at least be attractive to some section of the population, pursued apparently often half-heartedly and with the support only of partisan bits of the media.
Covid is different: it is the watermark which shows where democracy ended and totalitarianism showed itself.
I now see that it was always there, in the background, waiting, and expanding its reach; the piecemeal idiocy and the partisan media, and all the Punch and Judy shit, was just a way to keep our eyes off the ball and persuade stupid people that ‘our’ man was better than ‘their’ man. Divide and rule, writ large.
I think Trump and Brexit stirred the totalitarians into action; the internet and tech gave them the ability to monitor and control us and while I think they would have preferred to wait for a digital currency and more global alignment they were faced with the possibility of Trump or some other guy (and possibly an actual Conservative here in the UK, a Le Pen in France etc) sacking vast numbers of their powerful placemen and fucking up their day.
So from that it follows that ‘the Tories’ have no ‘customers’ – they have people who will vote for them on the basis of a potemkin manifesto, or some faint belief that they will be better than Labour, when experience shows – and in restrospect has always shown – that they will mostly do what Labour would have done, because Labour want what Soros and Schwab and Gates and the rest of those utter cunts want.
We have a uniparty in power, and we maybe always have had – Thatcher stirred things up a bit, no doubt, but that was why they hated her so much.
Can you honestly say that the other PMs we’ve had during my lifetime – Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron and May – were significantly different? Did any of them stop – or even really hinder – the globalists? Did any of them make Britain any stronger? Did any of them give you the feeling that they actually cared about Britons?
(I exclude Johnson from that list because I think he was different – he was just wily and lazy enough that he wasn’t controllable.)
MPs and Parliament are merely there to keep the proles (customers) happy and under the illusion that voting matters.
If worse comes to worst, I can live a full year on tinned sardines and mackerels in tomato sauce and cream of tomato soup, easily. I love the stuff. Throw in a few rye crackers and I’m in clover.
To add to Interested’s reasoning above, it also as one talking head establishment shill demonstrated the other morning on talkradio “tory party is a broad church”
—well sod that, it needs to to the right.
“if the tory party isn’t the fiscally responsible party then …”
—well sod that too. I think the membership believes any old shit they are told. What is certain is globally and domestically things are going to get worse every year. It’s like a ratchet. Fom one crisis to another.
Part of the brilliance of Blairism is that you can do anything at all, anything, if you do it a) fast enough, b) at the same time you falsely inflate the wealth of enough of the population to make them think either that they’re happy so who cares or, if they try to stop it, they’ll be made to care.
They all went along with it because of house prices. It wasn’t just the occasional pork barrel bribe, it was everything from dawn to dusk.
Fuck all of those people. They were always bought and paid for and there is no ruin they don’t deserve.
@Steve,
I don’t agree with most of your take on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but you’re right on the likelihood of a miserable winter.
NS1 is due to be turned back on on Thursday and Europe should find out what gas is coming and how it is to be allocated, but there’s a lot of smart money on Putin finding an excuse not to turn it on again. Added to that, the turbine that Scholz persuaded the man-child that is governing Canada to release is still stuck, apparently there’s going to be a court case against the Canadian government brought by Ukrainians living in Canada. (Apparently the Ukrainian diaspora in Canada is the biggest and wealthiest group outside somewhere, but I can’t remember where.
It seems that Germany is now coming to terms with the idea that Trump was right, or at least those that I follow but they do report the wider mood and the SPD and Merkle are in the mud. Whilst they’ve decided to start burning coal again, the dirtiest stuff, the Greens are still adamant that Nukes will close, although the last I saw was that they’ve put forward a proposal that they’ll allow the Nukes to continue for a while if the FDP allow a Tempolimit on all Autobahns. That’s like the the Dems saying they’ll allow X if the Reps support repeal of 2A.
In the meantime greenies and lefties are still insisting the Net Zero is off limits and if anything we need to move faster towards it.
And they wonder why truckers in Canada, farmers in the Netherlands, yellow jackets in France, Brexit, Trump etc keep happening. It will be a lot worse if they don’t start sorting the mess out.
Interested – makes sense. We have a market failure in our democracy because the incentives are all queered and the system is aggressively gatekept against outsiders (or even unwanted insiders, as Boris discovered). It would be laughably easy for the Tories to win elections with cricket score numbers if they were the slightest bit interested in doing what’s popular with the electorate, but they aren’t. We stand in relation to them as social media users do to the Big Tech oligarchs – we’re not the customer, we’re the product being sold.
Contra the MP-bothering website they do not, in fact, work for us.
BiND – I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see Russia turning the gas back on. It would be irrational for them to do so, the thin excuses on Nord Stream 1 are matched by similarly timed restrictions on their other oil and gas exports to Europe, and Gazprom’s announcement yesterday might as well have been a large neon sign saying “No fuel for you”.
. . . I don’t see Russia turning the gas back on. It would be irrational for them to do so . . .
1) They need the money.
2) Stopping the gas now and for the winter is a one trick pony. People will adapt and harden to an absolute. They’ll never sell energy to Europe again.
On again, off again is much more powerful.
“It’s not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It’s the hope I can’t stand.”
PJF,
The money isn’t much use when you can’t buy anything useful.
A win for Putin at this stage is for scared politicians in the EU to push Zelensky to accept a ceasefire in Sept/Oct and then we end up with a Korea situation, at least until Putin has had time to regroup and invade again.
I didn’t like it but it’s not my call and I also think it’s why Biden is starting to go all in and supply more Himars and training Ukrainian pilots on modern jets.
A win for Putin at this stage is for scared politicians in the EU to push Zelensky to accept a ceasefire in Sept/Oct . . .
Sure, that’s what he wants but by overplaying his hand he can appear like he’s a bit desperate and bluffing (which may be the case). Politically, Putin needs wins and it’s making him act short term (hence the all-out costly effort to acquire the tiny bit of Luhansk Oblast they didn’t already have).
Things may change on the battlefield fairly soon. Unlike Steve, I don’t think Russia is some juggernaut that can just prevail by numbers. Russia has defaulted to its fallback – artillery. Even though they’ve lots of it they can still only advance by concentrating it on small areas and just smashing them. That’s a vulnerable tactic. If the Ukrainians can hit logistics and command centres enough to neutralise it, the Russians don’t have much left to throw in. The UKies are already giving them a headache with the small numbers of HIMARS (and similar weapons) they have so far. If there’s a successful counteroffensive that takes the initiative (say, regaining Kherson Oblast and forcing the Black Sea Fleet out of Sevastopol) then it may no longer be springtime for
HitlerPutin andGermanyRussia.This isn’t going to just blow over, but the wind direction isn’t set.
The Daily Mail’s time machine says Nord Stream has restarted tomorrow:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11029317/Russia-RESTARTS-gas-exports-maintenance-despite-Europes-fears-Putin-taps-off.html
@Interested – “My preferred option would be to do away with benefits, and see how keen people are to starve rather than pick strawberries”
You are hopelessly naive. If people are faced with starvation, they’ll do anything. And that includes lots of crime. If you think it’s expensive to pay someone benefits, look at the cost of imprisoning them – and that’s assuming you can catch them.
@Davidsb – “What are the landlords going to do – demolish the buildings?”
That was done during the Irish potato famine. Landlords would smash the roof to make the place uninhabitable. You can still see some such ruins today.