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Year Zero, is it?

Everything tainted by Johnson’s lies needs to be undone. That includes his Brexit
Jonathan Freedland

41 thoughts on “Year Zero, is it?”

  1. What’s interesting to me is that Brexit really is a sideshow. The Great Rest is most definitely in progress (look at Holland) The EU is of diminishing relevance globally and when a loaf of bread (even as of later this year) is £10 and rising I simply don’t see that the eurozone tactics of kicking the can down the road will work- the euro will collapse and surely with it the EU. Even if it does survive (and I don’t know how it can frankly without the value falling by about 50% at minimum) it’s like shackling yourself to a skeleton. It’s a doctrine of the soon to be dead.

  2. “This is what people wanted for the country. But that’s different, and less important, from what the country NEEDS. I and people like me get to decide that, thanks.”

  3. I had to stop listening to The Long View on R4 because of Freedland’s smugness. Yey anotherpotentially interesting wirelessprog ruined by its Guardianista presenter.

  4. “Remainers can’t be reasoned with. They doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop… ever, until we’re back in the glorious EU!”

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    The establishment and assorted hangers on still don’t understand what went on in the run up to the Brexit referendum and how pissed off the working classes were at the efforts to block Brexit. This sums them up:

    I for one have been amazed at all the spontaneous protests by enraged voters demanding that Johnson stay in office.

  6. You’re right BiND. Johnson delivered what the voters wanted. Naturally they’re pissed off when he’s stabbed in the back.

    As for the party in No 10, and Starmer’s ‘beer gate’, that simply confirms that the pollies had the same opinion of the lockdown nonsense as they did.

  7. VP – Boris gave us a Technical Brexit. This was an incredible achievement after the constitutional crisis of 2018, when we were being set up by our elected representatives for Brexit In Name Only at best. He deserves a statue for that, at least.

    Technical Brexit is necessary but not sufficient. We need a bonfire of regulations, a great culling of taxes and petty rules to see the upside opportunities. Boris quickly ran out of steam, got bounced into the same Covid trap they used on Trump, and reverted to the usual Tory bullshit of fervently trying to conserve Blairism. We’ve left the building, but we’re still behaving as if we were in the EU.

    We also need to unfuck our foreign policy. Being Salacious B. Crumb to a rapidly declining United States of Jabba is no longer a smart move, as we can see when you have to take out a bank loan to afford petrol. (And, really, the humiliating flight from Afghanistan after 20 years of fighting on behalf of illiterate child rapists should’ve been a clue that the 20th century was over). Boris was a very enthusiastic supporter of escalating and prolonging the Ukraine war, which has brought disaster to both Ukraine and ourselves and will bring worse to come.

    He also let Princess Nut Nut, and other foolish metropolitan women such as Zac Goldsmith, destroy our energy base. We could probably afford to be in a state of undeclared war with Russia if we had lots of lovely shale gas, a robust North Sea oil industry, and next generation atomic power a-plenty. But we don’t, so we’re about as fucked as the EU is.

    I don’t think there’s much road left. The collective West is too indebted, too intoxicated by dark fantasies of WEFism, too demographically compromised by immigrant invasions and the unaddressed fertility crisis to hold on to its position. What’s happening in and around the Ukraine conflict is the real Great Reset – the developing economies led by China have told the historically rich economies led by the USA that things are going to be different from now on. The days of Washington DC making the rules are over. We’re not listening yet, but we’ll have to.

  8. The problem I see with Brexit is that it took years to action after the vote in June 2016. If only it had been completed in a year it would have been nicely out of the way by the time the pandemic hit and even the staunchest of remainers would be able to distinguish between the effects of printing money to support lockdown and the changes that were needed post Brexit.

  9. I agree with Bravefart.

    Remainers are cretins who need serious re education, Cultural Revolution style.

    Boris was a bitter disappointment. Even Brexit was a bit of a fudge. He got all the other calls : HS2, lockdowns, net zero etc massively wrong. If he had had the guts and intelligence to lead the way against the tide of stupidity and tyranny from other world leaders, much (not all ) of the shitshow we are in now could have been avoided.

    It’s a results game, at the end of the day.

  10. They were only “Remainers” until the referendum result. Since then they’ve been Quislings.

  11. I don’t get why we can’t vote for liars.
    Lots of the bastards tell us what they think we want to hear – Britain can be successful as a normal free trading independent country, or perhaps Britain can lead the way on climate change.
    We can still vote them in if we want to.
    Maybe not in Freedland world.

  12. Re Steve’s comment another consequence of the 20 years fighting is that the best part of 100,000 of the illiterate child rapists have been welcomed into our country and shunted to the top of the housing queue to further diversify and enrich our nation.

    Boris may only have inherited the mess but he could’ve should’ve but didn’t raise a finger to end it. When the leaders of the free world crept away under cover of darkness abandoning $80bn in armaments to a grateful and probably gobsmacked Taliban Boris’s ministers and our famous in-absentia civil servants were nowhere to be seen* and so the inevitable floodgates opened.

    * other than when mysteriously organising an airlift for a gobby ex-marine and his dogs.

  13. a gobby ex-marine and his dogs

    Well, Britain is renowned as a dog-loving nation and nothing can be too good for the piss-and-shit everywhere pests.

  14. I’m not encouraging anyone, not condoning like Jo Brand was not condoning, but I will look forward to seeing politicians hanging from lamp posts and being assassinated. But don’t do it!

  15. Steve,

    I was just about a Conservative member when the leadership election happened and it was a simple choice of Hunt or Boris and I thought that Boris would deliver something like I wanted, and that Hunt might have watered it down a bit.

    To me, Brexit had to be delivered and as hard as possible. The political elite like Grieve and Gauke and Rory Stewart had to get skullfucked and as hard as possible for standing in the way of a referendum result. I really do think it was the greatest political evil this country has seen and I am glad they are purged from parliament.

    But I had no illusions about Boris. He’s an aimless one nation type. Thinks things like HS2 and the Olympics are a good idea, let’s the civil service get on with things. I would have preferred he went soon after getting everything completed and leaving it to someone else.

  16. John – historians will probably wonder why the West poured so much blood and treasure into the sandbox and all we got were more lousy immigrants. At least there was a rational commercial purpose to 19th century imperial wars. Every war we’ve been involved in since 1991 has been a self-harming disaster we could easily have avoided.

    BoM4 – Yarp, but don’t look at who’s running to replace Boris, lest ye feel cheesed off. It’s probably long past time we admitted the Conservative Party can’t be reformed, and deserves to be abolished. You wouldn’t trust any of these people to fetch you a pint of milk from the shop, they’d probably come back with a dinghy full of Muslims instead.

    If they were gonna do conservative things, they’d have done so between 2010 and now. The Blessed Margaret wasn’t even in power that long.

  17. leaving it to someone else

    The problem is, who else? I am 30+ year non-resident citizen so I’m not up to speed on all the possibilities. However, my prediction is that should either proxy-billionaire Sunak or two-faced Zahawi get Boris’s job, that’s the red wall reverting to being red at the next election…at the minimum.

  18. I see that Ben Wallace who might have been one of the least bad options has already ruled himself out.

    I fear a Sunak/Javid carve-up. “Return of the Quitters” – part 2 in Javid’s case.

  19. The only sane choice is Steve Baker, and according to Guido’s chart he’s not even going to make the first round.

    So fuck the tory party. Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure. The only thing worse than a tory government is a labour government, but I’m still never going to vote for either.

  20. asiaseen, whoever we vote for these days, we seem to get the same policies inflicted on us:- higher spending, endless f**king war, endless f**king immigration, liberties eroded because of all of the above.

    TBH I’m getting to the stage of thinking it should all burn down, because ‘voting harder’ doesn’t work if the whole game is rigged in favour of the house anyway…

  21. Steve Baker has (sadly, as he was the only one close to a real conservative) withdrawn in favour of Suella Braverman, so I guess she will get my (purely figurative) vote..

  22. Steve,

    I really don’t think most of them are worse. I don’t like Tugendhat as he’s another one nation wanker. But the rest lean more towards Mrs Thatch than Boris does. The likes of Kemi Badenoch and Suella Braverman fucking hate the left, like Boris just doesn’t.

  23. “At least there was a rational commercial purpose to 19th century imperial wars.”

    It ain’t necessarily so. An economic historian once told me that nobody in his trade had ever found any evidence of 19th century Whitehall attempting cost/benefit analysis of the Empire or of the attempts to extend it. Everything, he suspected, was just a reaction to events, and often a spontaneous reaction by Johnny-on-the-spot. I suppose the telegraph would have changed that last point a bit but that came late on.

    It seems to me that the withdrawal from Empire after The War was partly a reaction to the realisation that almost all of it consisted of cost centres rather than profit centres.

    The Admiralty had entertained similar views since the late 19th century. Hence its support for Australian Federation – because the RN couldn’t afford to defend Australia, while the individual Australian colonies refused to build navies.

    Similarly I was struck when I read about Jackie Fisher’s decision to scrap many far-flung naval squadrons and spend the money saved, and use the trained crews, to expand the Home Fleet. We never were populous enough, and rich enough, to defend indefinitely that huge, sprawling entity “The Empah”.

    I dare say that’s what is implied in what has become a cliché about the empire being acquired “in a fit of absence of mind”. There was no master plan, no web spun by sinister Illuminati and Rothschilds; it was just one damned thing after another, and many of those things were unprofitable for the taxpayer, however well some individuals or families did out of them.

  24. Bloke in North Dorset

    The likes of Kemi Badenoch and Suella Braverman fucking hate the left, like Boris just doesn’t.

    I’d be happy to see either of them get the job. If we’re not gong to get a free marketer we might as well have the entertainment value of Labour and the rest of the left turning themselves inside out trying to explain how they are pure and the Conservative Party is the party of racist, misogynist gammons.

    And if anyone hasn’t seen the Tweet from the Kimono dressing fox batterer making a complete cnut of himself again here it is:

  25. Dearieme

    That is about the size of it Empire wise. It was only quite late on, say the 1860-70s that a “big idea” of empire developed, when Stanley had the ear of politicians and later crystallised by the likes of Rhodes, Chamberlain(J) and Milner.

    The Pacific is a good example of Britain’s withdrawal from far flung stations. Japan was groomed to be the Pacific’s policeman and there was much backslapping in the Admralty when the Japs used British technology and training to beat the Russians.

  26. ps if anyone is interested Kemi and Suella appear to be the soundest and would get my hypothetical vote.

    Baker is not to be trusted.

    And please anyone but Sunak and Javid.

  27. “New education minister Andrea Jenkyns says she raised her middle finger to a crowd outside Downing Street as a response to a “baying mob”

    She gets my vote. And my middle finger too, if I had the chance.

  28. I once read (many years ago) that by 1910 the only colony that the Empire was making money out of was the USA. We kept the trade but lost the cost of governing.

  29. Starmer like the lawyer he is he’s claiming that being let off on a technicality counts as innocent and the media happily playing along.
    Wasn’t a fan of Boris but the way the media has gone after him (as they did with Trump) really is unpalatable. Boris doesn’t help himself not having the discipline to manage details, but it was noticeable that as soon as he went against lockdown the stories like Partygate were brushed off and repurposed

  30. BniC

    Yes the British media is unpalatable (I’d have put it a lot stronger) and takes its lead from the bbc.

    The conservatives have been in office (note that I don’t say in power) for over a decade and have done precisely squat to rein it in. This, along with their reluctance to implement the boundaries commission recommendations and thereby do away with the inbuilt 20-30 seat labour head start, speaks volumes for where their true loyalties lie – certainly not with the British electorate, more with their fellow globalists.

    It will be interesting to see how much or more likely how little mention is made of these two key areas when candidates start making their “honest guv” pledges during the coming weeks.

  31. Bloke in North Dorset


    I don’t care what the police say because they were looking at if he broke the rules set by Boris. Starmer demanded harder and longer lockdowns, he shouldn’t have been anywhere near breaking Boris’s rules if he believed they weren’t hard enough.

    He should be judged against what he wanted to inflict on us and by my reading his actions make him him a hypocrite of the first order.

  32. It’s been said that it doesn’t matter who you vote for, they are all just stooges for he real power elite (WEF, etc.). If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let you do it.

  33. We don’t want more government, we have too much already. I think Braverman and Baddenoch sort of get this, but I’d still prefer the Belgian solution. No central government for 500 days would be fine with me.
    If we could get a government that actually repealed laws instead of making new ones that would be great. No more HS2, net zero and the rest would be ideal. But then I woke up.

  34. @ZT

    Correct. Ive not voted in years, aside from the Brexit referendum. You can see how angry the WEF got over the fact that Cameron let the vile proles have their voice and then lost.

  35. If we could get a government that actually repealed laws instead of making new ones that would be great.

    In my naive yoofdom I imagined it would be a great idea if parliament was not allowed to pass a new Act without repaeled an old one. Nowadays I suspect it should be a minimum of three old for one new given the number of Eurotrash laws we’ve had foisted upon us.

  36. Re. Asiaseen
    The EU Commission ran this idea of reducing legislation up the flagpole some time ago. What they meant of course was consolidating related or amended legislation to reduce the overall number of Directives / Regulations whilst at the same time adding further and tighter controls from the fewer pieces theoretical left.

  37. Yes dearieme. To the best of my knowledge, Oz never turned a monetary profit for the UK. Though I’d argue that our soldiers were useful in the late 19th and early 20th century wars.

    The convicts could be kept on the hulks for half of what it cost to maintain them in the Aussie penal settlements. But you did have the advantage that most of them couldn’t make it back to Britain after the end of their sentences.

    Anyway, thanks for making sure that we owned the whole of Australia. I presume that the UK government was thinking of how big a nuisance the Canada/US border was. And the border between the Boers and Cape Colony in South Africa. And no doubt about the ominous progress of the awful Russkies towards their favourite colony of India.

  38. Bloke needs a brief but extremely personal relationship with a pick-axe handle.
    For educational purposes obviously.

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