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Fighter pilots are sexist pigs, are they?

Red Arrows given consent training after sex assault and misogyny allegations, report claims
An internal investigation has so far documented at least 13 alleged behaviours at Scampton base including sexual harassment and bullying

Now there’s something no one ever saw coming.

As a little note, this idea that all and every area of life should be accessible to women, without hurting sensibilities, does mean that we’re now scouring life of any places where men can be excessively – and objectionably – male. I tend to think that won’t work out well. Those excessive and objectionable masculinities have a use, at least in extremis, we’ll miss being able to deploy them when they’re gone.

A world in which that male behaviour is packed off into particular corners, to be unleashed if necessary and then recaged, sounds to me better than one in which the attempt is made to abolish it.

Of course, we also know how to do that – called manners.

7 thoughts on “Fighter pilots are sexist pigs, are they?”

  1. I saw the Red Arrows last week at a local air show.

    I could feel their red white and blue white supremacist, misogynistic toxic masculinity every time they looped the loop. And don’t me started about the stunt where two p!anes fly at each other and miss by inches.

    I was literally shaking, bigots.

  2. ’….we’re now scouring life of any places where men can be excessively – and objectionably – male.’

    Oil rigs? Ice road trucking? Mines..?

  3. Wing Commander The Lord Flashheart

    Mind if I use your phone? If word gets out I’m missing, five hundred girls will kill themselves. And I wouldn’t want them on my conscience, not when they ought to be on my *face*!

  4. “As a little note, this idea that all and every area of life should be accessible to women, without hurting sensibilities, does mean that we’re now scouring life of any places where men can be excessively – and objectionably – male. I tend to think that won’t work out well. Those excessive and objectionable masculinities have a use, at least in extremis, we’ll miss being able to deploy them when they’re gone.”

    I think it’s more that it’s moved. We don’t really need much military now. My memory of the 1970s is that being a military officer was quite a big deal, status wise. But that was in an era when people still worried about threats to the kingdom. Those have largely gone and with it went a lot of money and status. You then get a vacuum that is filled by women.

    So, what places still have lots of men? Fintech, software startups, manufacturing, All of these places have a more robust, male attitude. You can park your “work life balance”, “mindfulness” and “respect agenda”. You want us to use your preferred pronouns, faggot? You’re here to work, to win, to be part of the corps. It’s beers after work and Christmas party that ends up with lap dances in Foxies. Women are welcome, but they have to have a pretty thick skin for it (and are often worse at being bros than some of the men).

    If we ever get back to some real threats starting to emerge, the women and the trannies will mostly be gone, along with bans on sailors shagging Thai skanks when on shore leave. No-one will care, because what they’ll want is killers, and overlook the downsides. People will leave these places and join the military.

  5. Bloke in North Dorset

    BoM4,

    “ I think it’s more that it’s moved. We don’t really need much military now. My memory of the 1970s is that being a military officer was quite a big deal, status wise.”

    I think it’s more of a case that in the mid 70s everyone older than 20 likely had a father/uncle/grandfather who served in WW2 or possibly WW1 still alive. They could well have had a few war heroes in their village or suburb. Most of the senior MPs in the cabinet or shadow cabinet had served in WW2, some with distinction.

    Most people now won’t now won’t know anyone who served in combat and so have no frame of reference.

    One thing we have learned in Iraq and Afghanistan is that women can serve in the front line, with honour and distinction. It will never be 50/50 and they’ll rarely do the grunt stuff like humping artillery shells around, but there’s jobs they can do.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21968276-battleworn

    The female combat medics were soldiers who carried first aid kits and they were part of the patrols that went out nightly.

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