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It’s a good joke but it should be recognised as one

Pity to see folks not getting it:

The Bible and an adaptation of Anne Frank’s diary are among books withdrawn from Texan schools in the past year after parental complaints.

In the latest example of the battle playing out across America over what material children should see, officials in Keller independent school district, near Fort Worth, said books previously cleared as suitable for pupils would have to be assessed again.

At least one person objected to the Bible due to its “sexual content, violence including rape, murder, human sacrifice, misogyny, homophobia, discrimination, and other inappropriate content,” the Dallas Morning News reported. Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation was questioned on the grounds that it should be viewed with an adult, the newspaper reported.

So, the story is that the school district has a list of books that folk have objected to – objected to their being in classroom and school libraries. That list went to appeal, there were more complaints, they’ve pulled all those objected to until they can sort themselves out over what should remain on the shelves and what should not.

OK, so perhaps we can all laugh at the rubes getting this fussed over mere books etc. But they’ve not been banned – not as yet – it’s all in the consideration process.

That inclusion of the Bible there, of course it’s a very good and disruptive joke from someone who is against the idea of banning rather more woke-type books. If you’re going to ban this book on the grounds of violence – say – then what about Exodus on the subject of first borns?

A very good joke to spanner in the works.

But that’s what it is.

62 thoughts on “It’s a good joke but it should be recognised as one”

  1. Anne Frank’s Diary: The Graphic Adaptation was questioned on the grounds that it should be viewed with an adult, the newspaper reported.

    “She’s in the attic!”

  2. Then presumably the school district would comply if a parent requested banning a widely-circulated book which praises a man who married and had sex with a 9 year old and encourages wholesale murder of Jews.

  3. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    You could go at both those books for their descriptions of colonialism and in the case of the one about the pedo, the instruction to continue that colonialism until the whole world is conquered.

    Anne Frank’s diary has to be banned as a subversive description of blatant refusal to follow the government’s laws, including practical tips on how to evade capture. No one should be encouraged to break the law, surely. And there is some teen speculation on sex in there as well.

    Actually, the teen (and 9 year old) sex seems to be increasingly A-OK with our modern day book burners.

  4. John +1000

    Fahrenheit 451, here we come. These cvnts will soon have us back to oral story-telling and knowledge transfer only, around a non-existent fire (due to CO2 emissions) in our cave dwellings.

  5. That inclusion of the Bible there, of course it’s a very good and disruptive joke from someone who is against the idea of banning rather more woke-type books

    Dunno, because America is weird and full of weird religious and ethnic tensions. Activist Jews in America regularly complain about Christianity, and regularly try to get it removed from the public square. Been like that since 1960’s astronauts read from the Bible in their broadcasts to Houston (cue massive kvetching and NASA banning God talk), or maybe before. They successfully got rid of Christian prayer, nativity scenes, etc. from American public schools and buildings, so a Yank teacher can expect to lose his job for talking about Jesus. But not if he talks about buttplugs and tranny gender options.

    I don’t think they do it for a laugh, a lot of them really do just hate Christians. Which, ironically or divinely depending on your point of view, is something we are warned about in the Bible.

    Exact same energy as Buster Friendly and His Friendly Friends, if you know your Philip K Dicketry. Phil was mental, natch, but also deeply perceptive in his pharmaceutically enhanced observations of human nature.

  6. They don’t hate Christians, Steve. They just don’t want religion to have privileged influence. Being an atheist can cause one huge problems in America. As the Constitution states that there should be a separation of church and state, then they are right to protest.

  7. It’s not material children should see, it’s material children could see. The fact a book is allowed to be in a school library doesn’t force anybody to read it. There was probably only half a dozen books in my school library that I read. It’s the old “off switch, what off switch?” fallacy again.

  8. Nautical Nick – I don’t think that’s true, on either point. If you don’t see the no-longer-even-veiled hostility emanating from Hollywood*, Google, etc., maybe we’re just seeing different wavelengths.

    The separation of church and state is often misunderstood. It was intended to prevent the importation of European style sectarian strife (the 30 years war wasn’t much fun), not to erase Jesus from American public life. But it’s mainly invoked for the latter purpose.

    *Old Hollywood was different, and there seems to be a big generational attitude gap between early 20th century Jewish Americans and their grandchildren. Irving Berlin was happy to write Christmas and Easter songs for his many gentile fans, but Mel Gibson faced insane levels of harassment when he tried distributing a respectful movie about everybody’s favourite Jewish carpenter.

  9. I mean, it’s the Old Testament/ Torah that’s full of hate and genocidal acts – so maybe just ban them. And Steve’s right about them hating Christians; always have, always will…

  10. Steve is spot on, secular Jews in the US loathe Christianity and more importantly Christians.

    Where do you think the fanatical anti whitism of wokery comes from?

    I would remind people of the history of the Russian Bolshevik revolution.

    When the Bolsheviks took over they set their sights on the kulaks and murdered them in the tens of millions.

    Solzhenitsyn is pretty descriptive of this.

  11. “As the Constitution states that there should be a separation of church and state”: no it doesn’t. Read the bloody thing – it’s short and written in excellent English designed to be understood by the layman.

  12. Well, I don’t know Jonathan, the NT is unkind about swineherds, who would necessarily have been gentile. But I’ll grant you that it’s sound on Samaritans. And I confess that I’ve never seen even a hint in the NT about child sacrifice.

    It’s hard to believe that the God of the NT and OT are the same chap. In fact, it’s hard to believe that the God of the early books of the OT is the same chap as the God of the later books. An old colleague of mine used to argue that the latter was borrowed from Zoroastrianism during the exile in Babylon. At first I thought he was only teasing but now I suspect probably not.

  13. Which, ironically or divinely depending on your point of view, is something we are warned about in the Bible.

    To be intellectually and divinely fair, the book by the pedo also issues grave warnings about the Jews.

    And Steve’s right about them hating Christians; always have, always will…

    It seems to me it’s the Christians and Muslims who hate the Jews. Not really surprising, since both purloined and twisted their religion and then got upset when they didn’t enthusiastically sign up.

  14. Dennis, Tiresome Denizen of Central Ohio

    It seems to me it’s the Christians and Muslims who hate the Jews.

    Jews have experienced 2,000 years of Christian love, which for some reason that love has made them a bit wary of Christians in general and European Christians in particular. They’re funny that way. And as far as Muslims hating Jews, well, that’s are rather recent development that was pioneered by Nazi Germany in conjunction with Amin al-Husseini.

  15. And as far as Muslims hating Jews, well, that’s are rather recent development . . .

    It’s in the effing Koran.

  16. Dennis, Inconveniently Noting Reality

    It’s in the effing Koran.

    And if you understood the Koran and knew the history behind it you’d know I was right.

  17. Dennis – Jews have experienced 2,000 years of Christian love, which for some reason that love has made them a bit wary of Christians in general and European Christians in particular.

    It’s definitely true that hatred of Jews has been depressingly common in European history, up to and including that unpleasantness in Germany. Otoh nobody* forced them to migrate to Christendom and live as a visible, and quite often antagonistic, minority among the goyim. That was their choice.

    However, if diaspora communities weren’t at least somewhat oppositional to their host population, they’d soon stop being a community due to intermarriage and whatnot. Like with the gypsies, any group that wants to retain its cohesion in a multicultural environment must erect shibboleths to keep itself separate and protect its daughters from shagging men of the other tribes. That’s why the Hasids and the Amish are defiantly weird.

    *Well, arguably Hadrian, but that was a while ago.

    And as far as Muslims hating Jews, well, that’s are rather recent development

    Come on buddy, Mo wasn’t famous for his love of interfaith tolerance.

    PJF – seems to me it’s the Christians and Muslims who hate the Jews

    Idk so much about the Moslem faith because obviously I’d never set foot in a mosque, but you’d be run out on a rail if you preached Jew-hate in pretty much any Christian church that isn’t a prefab hut on some neonazi compound in West Virginia. American Protestantism in particular is fanatically pro-Israel.

    I have, however, been to a synagogue and listened to the rabbi’s bitter complaints about the bloody Xtians. Shylock’s self-pitying hostility was cruelly observed, but not completely fictional.

  18. I live in NYC, where I’ve met those Christian-hating socialist Jews. They tend to be in the very secular areas of Brooklyn. Of course, they hate their own people too, because they sympathize with Palestinians for some reason. There are even LGBTQ groups who march for those people who murder gays.

    Most other secular Jews have no problem with Christians. My great-grandmother came from Poland before the Holocaust, and in the Bronx she would spit on the sidewalk every time she saw a nun, as a result of her experiences. My grandfather tried to become friends with an Italian schoolmate and invited him to dinner, but the kid’s parents called him home and told him to stay away from the Jewish family. My mother got a small handful of anti-Semitic remarks in her college years. Worst I ever got was some Quaker guy in West Virginia telling me he’d pray for my repentance.

    I think it has more to do with assimilation as well as acceptance. Sometimes people on both sides are just stupid.

    However, Jews and Christians aren’t the ones committing honor killings and most terrorist attacks, creating no-go zones, fucking their cousins on a massive scale, or cutting off their daughters’ clits—with most of the moderates looking the other way. I’ll take some misunderstandings and rude comments over that shit any day.

  19. However, Jews and Christians aren’t the ones committing honor killings and most terrorist attacks, creating no-go zones, fucking their cousins on a massive scale, or cutting off their daughters’ clits—with most of the moderates looking the other way. I’ll take some misunderstandings and rude comments over that shit any day.

    Sure, but whenever you see some piece of virulent anti-white racism it tends to be some Marxist of Jewish origins who’s pushing it.

  20. I wonder if a lot of the antipathy towards Jews comes from the old Christian ban on usury. The Jews fulfilled a need as moneylenders but who likes the guy you are in hock to?

  21. I wonder if a lot of the antipathy towards Jews comes from the old Christian ban on usury. The Jews fulfilled a need as moneylenders but who likes the guy you are in hock to?

    Sure, but it wasn’t the plebs getting Jewish loans was it?

    Equally, the old trick was to invite the Jews in as money lenders (because they were excluded from other professions and institutions), get them to lend vast loans to King Whomever and then when it comes to repayment, just organise a pogram and effectively erase the debt.

  22. FatherCoughlanRedux

    Who would have thought yet another thread would degenerate into yet more of Steve’s fetid and increasingly demented antisemitic rantings?

    Everyone, that’s who.

  23. Looking through the bibliographies of the anti white literature that is often proudly adorning the displays in Waterstones, the over representation of a certain group of academics and activists is eyebrow raising to say the least. Factor in the preponderance of this group behind race relation laws, within the Frankfurt School and before that, Bolshevism, it’s as if there’s a common denominator somewhere.

  24. Dennis, Wandering To The Mosque

    Come on buddy, Mo wasn’t famous for his love of interfaith tolerance.

    Actually, he was quite tolerant of other faiths… More tolerant than most Christian sects of the same period, as a matter of fact. A grounding in the history of Islam, Muhammad and the Middle East would cause you to reevaluate your statement.

    However, Jews and Christians aren’t the ones committing honor killings and most terrorist attacks, creating no-go zones, fucking their cousins on a massive scale, or cutting off their daughters’ clits—with most of the moderates looking the other way.

    Last time I checked it wasn’t wild-eyed Islamic terrorists who ran the gas chambers. Or created over a thousand Jewish ghettos in places like Warsaw. Or filled out the ranks of the Einsatzgruppen. Or thought up and implemented Aktion T4.

  25. Last time I checked it wasn’t wild-eyed Islamic terrorists who ran the gas chambers. Or created over a thousand Jewish ghettos in places like Warsaw. Or filled out the ranks of the Einsatzgruppen. Or thought up and implemented Aktion T4.

    Yet for all that Adolf and his pals killed far fewer than Stalin and a dip in the ocean compared to Mao’s numbers. But we’re gonna ignore that and just mutter “Hitler bad, mkay?” like good little goys.

  26. Actually, he was quite tolerant of other faiths…

    Jews and Christians – conversion to Islam, religious tax or death.

    Others – conversion to Islam or death.

  27. Dennis, Doing Research

    Jews and Christians – conversion to Islam, religious tax or death.

    Nope. The tax of which you speak was first levied by Muhammad on Muslims. It was levied on non-Muslims somewhat later. Radicals now claim it was a tax upon non-believers to justify their own actions, but it isn’t what actually what Muhammad did (or why he did it).

    Quit while you’re behind, son.

  28. Dearieme: How about the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment?

    Steve: I do think we see things differently. In the UK hardly any employer would give a rat’s arse about your religion, unless and until it started to cause trouble. In the US, the situation can be radically different. Religion is fine in public in the US, so long as State institutions are not involved.

    As for “hostility”, I’d guess it’s more likely to be exasperation at how anyone could believe something so silly.

  29. Sure, but whenever you see some piece of virulent anti-white racism it tends to be some Marxist of Jewish origins who’s pushing it

    As well as Western European Christians/Catholics with some weird fetish for masochism. Like Klaus Schwab. The U.S. also has a modern history of aging hippies who think it’s still 1968, like (now-dead) Jim Jones, Elie Mystal and Jane Elliott. None of them Jewish.

    My theory, in addition to the contributions of the Frankfurt School to this problem, is that Jews in Europe during WWII often had to choose between the Nazis and the “anarcho”-communists, since few other viable options were available at the time (if you knew what was good for you). The Soviet army also liberated many concentration camps, so some people simply followed the hand that fed them.

    Last time I checked it wasn’t wild-eyed Islamic terrorists who ran the gas chambers. Or created over a thousand Jewish ghettos in places like Warsaw. Or filled out the ranks of the Einsatzgruppen. Or thought up and implemented Aktion T4.

    One of those things happened 80 years ago in a specific region. The other is happening now wherever there are mass populations of Muslims. I have a roommate from Poland, and we get along swimmingly. Mere blocks from my apartment last year, we had groups of Palestinian rioters finding random Jews in the Diamond District and beating them with metal flagpoles. There is more of an effort to appease migrants from Muslim countries right now than there is to protect the safety of non-Muslims. I also had a Muslim roommate two years ago from Saudi Arabia/UAE (although he was born in the U.S., English is his second language). It’s not a problem of genetics or ethnicity, but of culture. I grew up with several secular Muslim classmates
    who were very liberal, but weren’t a threat to me. My Saudi roommate? Let’s just say I started hiding the kitchen knives at a certain point.

    Hmmm…

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6638941

    Your dishonesty is showing in a few ways. First, you’re ignoring the mass scale part, meaning I never said it’s nonexistent with Jews or Christians. I’m saying that it’s the exception to the rule when it does happen. There’s a Christian family in upstate New York involved in incest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z5-gGdYhhs

    They’re isolated and shunned by other Gentiles.

    Meanwhile, in the UK… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyNP3s5mxI8

    And that’s in Western Europe today. Not in shithole countries in 1982/3. The study mentions there is more diversity among non-Jewish populations. Yes, I’d expect that to be the case when Jews make up 0.2% of the world population. There is no edict in the Torah to “be fruitful and multiply,” so you’re going to find a much more stringent genetic connection in a group that does not have an army of missionaries. I’ll be the first to say that if you go back 5 generations in my family tree, you’ll probably find cousin marriages, since these people were on farms and in small villages, where there were only so many families around. That’s true of any group of people living in that kind of environment, even though it’s obviously fucked up. As socioeconomic conditions improved, the vast majority assimilated to Western practices. Ask the typical Israeli (many of whom have ancestry from these shithole countries) what he thinks of incest, and they’ll look at you like you’ve been smoking crack, because they’ve assimilated since their grandparents/great-grandparents were forced out from those places.

    There wasn’t pressure put on the adoptive country or society to accept such depravity. The FLDS church was raided by the feds over here, and no one was defending “religious freedom” for Warren Jeffs. The barbaric child-rearing in unassimilated Muslim families is ignored. During my graduate studies, I encountered a 14-year-old girl whose mother burned her with an iron. I’ve met elementary school teachers with young females in their classroom who have been mutilated down there.

    I, and pretty much any other Jew or Christian I’ve ever known, have never even encountered a Jewish or Christian family engaging in incest or polygamy. It’s viewed as something that happened in the old country over a century ago. I also don’t see Muslims looking over their shoulder on the subway to see if the Jewish or Christian passengers are doing anything suspicious.

    I think you’re blurring the line between acknowledging a problem and attribution to an entire ethnic group. Virtually every group of people has been the oppressor and the oppressed throughout history. It’s okay to observe that right now there’s a pressing issue with a certain segment of the Muslim community that is more threatening to the general population than solely backwards ideology.

  30. Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
    And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
    And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
    And everybody hates the Jews.
    But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
    It’s National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
    Be nice to people who
    Are inferior to you.
    It’s only for a week, so have no fear.
    Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!

    National Brotherhood Week – Tom Lehrer

  31. I wonder who’s bringing all those Muslims to the West?

    https://jewishcurrents.org/the-jewish-case-for-open-borders

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-groups-kick-into-high-gear-as-afghan-refugees-begin-to-arrive-in-us/

    https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/jewish-group-urges-government-to-resettle-more-refugee-children-and-young-people/

    Open borders for thee but not for me…

    As is the Pope and many Christian groups. I also wasn’t aware Angela Merkel, Eric Adams, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Jeremy Corbyn, AOC, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib were Jewish.

    So…your point?

  32. Who would have thought yet another thread would degenerate into yet more of Steve’s fetid and increasingly demented antisemitic rantings?

    I dunno, Father. I quite like Jews, but I couldn’t eat a whole one.

    Dennis – A grounding in the history of Islam, Muhammad and the Middle East would cause you to reevaluate your statement.

    I’m not saying you’re naive, but I remember how surprised you were to find out your Somali pals are big fans of clit-snipping. Do you think taqiyya might be a factor here?

    Chris – Tom Lehrer was right about Wernher von Braun, and also a lot more gracious than I would’ve been to the Peenemunde Space Nazi.

  33. Nautical Nick the constitution says that CONGRESS shall not make an establishment of religion. That was intended to stop the federal government interfering with the established churches in sone states – Congregationalism in Massachusetts and CofE in the Carolinas, for instance. The Supreme Court has long and wrongly applied it at state level.

  34. The tax of which you speak was first levied by Muhammad on Muslims. It was levied on non-Muslims somewhat later. Radicals now claim it was a tax upon non-believers to justify their own actions, but it isn’t what actually what Muhammad did (or why he did it).

    A notion completely mysterious to Islamic scholars or, indeed, Allah.

    “Fight those who believe not in God and in the Last Day, and who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, and who follow not the Religion of Truth among those who were given the Book, till they pay the jizyah with a willing hand, being humbled.”

    — Quran 9:29

    It’s a divine command to tax the dhimmis. You know, as relayed by the Prophet of Islam – Mo.

    And this is just taking it at face value, rather than as the total bollocks cobbled together over centuries.

    Quit while you’re behind, son.

    Fuck off back to your mosque.

  35. @dennis who seems to have drunk the islamic koolaid. What fucking planet do you live on ? I suggest you change your non de plume to Dennis (dhimmi) or pull your head out of your arse. For someone who’s always boasting about how smart he is, you are unbelievably stupid.

    You do realise that it was muslims who introduced the yellow star for jews in the middle ages.

    To quote Verse 9:29 of the Quran reads:
    Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
    Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)
    Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)
    Verse 7:176 compares unbelievers to “panting dogs” with regard to their idiocy and worthlessness.

    Verse 7:179 says they are like “cattle” only worse.

    Verse 9:28 says the unbelievers are unclean.

    Verse 6:111 says they are ignorant.

    Verse 4:76 says they are helpers of the devil.

    Verse 5:60 even says that Allah transformed Jews of the past into apes and pigs. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65. A hadith (Bukhari 54:524) says that Muhammad believed rats to be “mutated Jews” (also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

    Verses 46:29-35 even say that unbelieving men are worse than the demons who believe in Muhammad.

    According to Islamic law, non-Muslims may be owned as property by Muslims, but – in keeping with Islam’s supremacist message – a fellow Muslim should never be (unless they convert to Islam after they are enslaved).

    Christians and Jews are not considered fully human in Islam. The penalty for killing one of them is limited to one-third of the compensation due for unintentionally killing a Muslim. Muhammad made it clear that a believer cannot be put to death for killing a non-believer, since they are not equal (see Conclusion). Thus, killing kafir is less serious than engaging in a consenting sexual relationship outside of marriage.

    Doesnt sound very tolerant to me.

  36. “ As is the Pope and many Christian groups. I also wasn’t aware Angela Merkel, Eric Adams, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Jeremy Corbyn, AOC, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib were Jewish.”

    Why do you think that listing 8 non Jews as sufficient evidence that Jews aren’t, as a group, overwhelmingly pro migration?

  37. Why do you think that listing 8 non Jews as sufficient evidence that Jews aren’t, as a group, overwhelmingly pro migration?Why do you think that listing 8 non Jews as sufficient evidence that Jews aren’t, as a group, overwhelmingly pro migration?

    Thank you for acknowledging that I could’ve listed exponentially more of them.

  38. Why do you think that listing 8 non Jews as sufficient evidence that Jews aren’t, as a group, overwhelmingly pro migration?Why do you think that listing 8 non Jews as sufficient evidence that Jews aren’t, as a group, overwhelmingly pro migration?

    Thank you for acknowledging that I could’ve listed exponentially more of them.

    Yes naming 8-20 white people out of a combined population of 400+ million proves your point. Seriously?

    Here’s a more taxing challenge:

    There are plenty of articles by the goyim defending Jews and the right of Israel to employ a fiercely combative stance in terms of the preservation of Jewry.

    Now find me the articles authored by Jews defending the rights of whites to exist according to the same. Find *any* Jewish authored articles that endorse the right of native English peoples to exist in and of themselves of as an ethnically conscious group, just as Jews beseech unto others.

    Clue: you can’t.

  39. Blimey, moqifen, those vile Islamic quotes and sentiments could’ve been copied straight out of the Bible couldn’t they.

    Honestly I don’t know which is worse, Islam or Judeo-Christianity.

  40. “Dearieme: How about the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment?”

    How about it? Where does it use the expression “separation of church and state”? It doesn’t. Because the chaps who wrote it weren’t idiots. Some of the states had established churches. The point was to ensure that Congress could neither abolish them nor introduce an established religion for the whole federation. Very wise too.

    It’s good stuff, the Constitution. It’s just a pity that Americans, especially Congress and the Judiciary, can’t live up to it.

  41. They’re not going to be banned. At worst the school library won’t stock them.

    You won’t get arrested for selling, buying, or possessing one.

  42. Religion is a form of brainwashing. Someone born into a Jewish family, will be told, from a very early age, who to hate. Same thing with Muslims, Christians, Mormons and Welsh Baptists. I recall a story, or film, many years ago, when a child born to a Jewish couple, was given to a Muslim family in error, and their child, born at the same time, went to the Jewish couple. I forget the outcome, but it amplified the brainwashing element, with each child growing up hating the religion of their natural parents.

  43. One of those things happened 80 years ago in a specific region. The other is happening now wherever there are mass populations of Muslims.

    Exactly. I couldn’t care less who did what to whom 100s of years ago. I do care about groups coming here and attempting to bring their barbaric culture with them and imposing it on me.

    For that reason I would much rather see a million Hong Kongers settle here, than a dozen mohammedans.

  44. As is the Pope and many Christian groups.

    If there were a dozen Christian groups in Israel demanding that they bring in Syrian and Iraqi Christian and Muslim refugees, you might have a point.

  45. I, and pretty much any other Jew or Christian I’ve ever known, have never even encountered a Jewish or Christian family engaging in incest [or polygamy].

    You’ve not been to Norfolk (England) then?

    And in a neighbouring county in one year working for a law firm I dealt with two incest cases.

  46. I sneeze in threes

    “You won’t get arrested for selling, buying, or possessing one.”

    What about burning some of them?

  47. Blimey, moqifen, those vile Islamic quotes and sentiments could’ve been copied straight out of the Bible couldn’t they.
    Honestly I don’t know which is worse, Islam or Judeo-Christianity.

    Two points: Christians believe that Jesus came to preach the new testament, replacing the old commandments of Exodus, Deuteronomy etc – which is why they don’t usually obsess about eating shellfish or pork, or wearing clothes made from two different cloths (admittedly, this hasn’t stopped them quoting bits of the OT when it suits their argument, but none of them accept it wholesale (because then they’d be Orthodox Jews)). Jesus, whatever you think of His teachings, was most definitely a man of peace and not a local warlord like Mo.

    But more importantly, Christians do not believe the Bible is the direct word of God. They believe it was written by fallible human beings (divinely inspired, perhaps) and then translated by more fallible human beings. So it’s perfectly in order to question its words and Christian theologians do so all the time, which is how Christian belief has developed through the centuries.

    For an observant Moslem, OTOH, the Koran was directly dictated to Mohammed by the Archangel Gabriel giving him the actual word of God (much of it bearing a suspiciously close resemblance to parts of the OT). It is literally blasphemy to question the veracity of the Koran, and we all know how blasphemy should be dealt with (ask Mr Rushdie).

    [Disclaimer: I’ve no strong personal beliefs in this area, though I can put forward a reasonable, purely scientific, case for the observable universe being a created entity. On my better days, I’m as thorough-going a Taoist as you might hope to meet.]

  48. Chris – Tom Lehrer was right about Wernher von Braun, and also a lot more gracious than I would’ve been to the Peenemunde Space Nazi.

    He was right about pigeons, too, Steve 🙂

  49. Certain non-Jews are doing a piss poor job of convincing the dissidents, apparently. Don’t seem like a very fun bunch is all.

  50. @asiaseen

    If a nurse tells you she’s seen two cases of monkeypox in the hospital just this week, would you apply that to the general population as well?

  51. If there were a dozen Christian groups in Israel demanding that they bring in Syrian and Iraqi Christian and Muslim refugees, you might have a point.

    Off the top of my head, there are Christian groups in Israel doing just that when it comes to Palestinians.

    There are even Muslims in the Knesset at this point. As for Syrian refugees, as well as Gazans, victims of their local terrorists are often treated in Israeli hospitals, with Arabic translators. They just aren’t being made automatic citizens after treatment. Since Israel is virtually the only westernized country in the Middle East, it has the same problem with a few leftists as Europe, as is seen in the Ha’aretz newspaper. However, I’ve been told by several Israelis that maybe 3% of the country reads that shite.

    I noticed a previous post citing JewishCurrents, a leftist publication with less clout than the Village Voice. I knew a guy back in college who was studying journalism and recently worked at WSJ. He is Jewish and a leftist, the sort who thinks AntiFa is necessary to prevent another January 6. I can tell you firsthand these mental patients are a result of being sheltered and never leaving the tri-state area in their life, not a result of religious background. I literally have no Jewish friends in NYC for that reason. The Jews from smaller towns are not like that. Even Jews who grow up in these big cities and then move elsewhere, as my parents did, evolve out of that elitist and sheltered mindset.

    In the “Christian” countries, there are Christians deciding to sign off on their massive influx of refugees with or without Jewish “influence.” Germany let the Syrian refugees camp out on the grounds of former concentration camps:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/01/30/germany-is-housing-refugees-within-holocaust-era-concentration-camps/

    Do you really think they give a shit about pissing off the Jews? It’s just as weak an argument as saying African-Americans are making white politicians pass bail reform in blue cities. Nope, just white politicians who don’t have any black friends and thus think the crazy ones are representative of the rest.

  52. As for Syrian refugees, as well as Gazans, victims of their local terrorists are often treated in Israeli hospitals, with Arabic translators

    So, not bringing in tens of thousands of refugees then? As I said: ” Open borders for thee, but not for me…”

    Even Jews who grow up in these big cities and then move elsewhere, as my parents did, evolve out of that elitist and sheltered mindset.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/activist-phoenix-rabbi-hosts-syrian-refugee-family-for-thanksgiving/

    Do you really think they give a shit about pissing off the Jews?

    Remind me who Jeremy Corbyn is again.

  53. I have yet to hear anyone blaming the Catholic Church for the Pope’s position on refugees, so your point is moot. You can’t cherry-pick the organizations that fit your narrative and apply them to entire ethnic groups, and expect to be taken seriously.

    There was a time when Americans thought the average Brit more intelligent than us, or at least enough to be a witty indentured servant. Sorry about your national identity crisis, Mr. Belvedere.

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