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The Times, eh, they change

Her father went on to work as an assistant manager in a hotel in Portland, Oregon, where the family settled in the late 1920s. According to some reports, though the evidence is sketchy, she was the niece of General George Patton, the colourful wartime commander.

The family relocated again in 1942 after Virginia, an only child, had been spotted by a Warner Brothers talent scout while performing in a play at her high school — and after her father had accepted a position as an engineer in the Lockheed aircraft factory in Burbank, California.

She was thrilled to move west and take up a contract with the studio,

That’s actually a move east – south and east.

16 thoughts on “The Times, eh, they change”

  1. I once astonished an Englishman by pointing out that Edinburgh is west of Bristol. Only later did I realise that many people have a genetic defect that renders them incapable of understanding the geography of the British Isles or the constitutional arrangements therein.

    Only once have I offended anyone on this topic: I burst out laughing when someone told me in all seriousness that Land’s End was the westmost point on the British mainland.

    P.S. you can have the same fun with a Welshman: ask him whether Cardiff or Edinburgh is further west.

  2. dearieme

    The map of the British Isles is usually portrayed with GB upright, so Edinburgh is to the right of the centre line, Bristol would be to the left, and Land’s End would protrude the furthest.

    That’s why.

    Just as people will tell you the Sun rises in the East and sinks in the West due to that genetic defect that makes people think the Sun orbits the Earth… perhaps.

  3. Where I live the town faces North on the coast. The west beach is called the West Beach. The east side is called the East Side. The sun comes up over the East Cliff and sets over the West Sands. And yet so so so so so many people talk about driving *NORTH* to Middlesbrough, talk about the shops on the *SOUTH* side of the river. Even the damn County Council highways dept, who you would at least have a grasp of geography. If you go north, YOU END UP IN THE BLOODY SEA, and eventually in Siberia.

  4. Bloke in North Dorset


    Do all the locals still say “eg”, with a hard “e” at the end of every sentence? When I lived in Pickering in tje ‘70s it was referred to as Whitby-eh by some of my friends.

  5. Only later did I realise that many people have a genetic defect that renders them incapable of understanding the geography of the British Isles or the constitutional arrangements therein.

    To be fair, most of us don’t need to know it.

    I’m reminded of an episode of Brain of Things Having to Do With Britain many years ago on the old BBC World Service. The contestants were given Harvard and Yale as two of the eight Ivy League universities in the US, and asked to name two more. The first contestant came up with Princeton and some wrong second guess, with the other three contestants being progressively further away from the Northeast.

    And then there was the question that asked what word we Americans use for “coffin” in a way that implied we don’t use the word “coffin”. The word they were looking for was “casket”, and I recall none of the contestants knowing that.

    They did, however, seem to be expected to know reams and reams of obscure poetry by British poets I’d never heard of, and I consider myself fairly well-read.

  6. “Brian of Britain” Robert Roberston used to call it.

    I stopped listening a long time ago, I find Russell Davies too much of a beardy twat even on the wireless.

    ps BiND, aren’t you think of Canadians, eh ?

  7. Good God, Ted, I was referring to people here, not to Yanks. Nobody ever expects them to know anything much about geography or history. In my experience many Yanks will admit to it with good grace and a smile.

    Mind you my time living in the States was brief and long ago. I found the people hospitable and generous. Are they still?

  8. Dennis, Your Guide To The USA

    That’s actually a move east – south and east.

    Not if you’re a septic. You wogs have your geography and we septics have ours.

  9. I’m always surprised about peoples lack of sense of direction and use of obvious lay of the land, few people locally can find north when we have an area called the north shore and the mountains are pretty hard to miss, it’s not exact but heading away or to the mountains is a fairly easy clue as to where you are going. That said mountain recuse had to go out and find some women that were lost recently who on heading back to their car took the wrong trail and headed up to the peak of a mountain which is a good 2 to 3 hour hike and it was now dark, you’d think if you’ve parked by the river the idea that you have just walked uphill for a couple of hours might be a slight clue to turn around.

  10. Apart from knowing where the sun rises and sets, sorting out local directions is helped by having my partner construct an analemma in the front yard. Of course a lot of my blood, sweat & tears are part of it.

  11. Bloke in North Dorset


    Never been to Canada and thinking back I don’t think I’ve met that many Canadians. Maybe the odd 1 or 2 whilst working with management consultancies, but they will have been internationalised, for want of a better word.

  12. A few years ago I was in Prague, and as a compass I used the satellite TV antennas, as they all pointed south.

  13. Try living upside down in New Zealand. I have been here for 6 years and still have trouble adjusting to the seasons being arse about face.Daffodils in August and Christmas in a heatwave,its not natural.

  14. BiND

    Northern Yanks that I met took the mickey out of Canucks by adding “eh” to the end of sentences. I never noticed it in Canuckland and thought it was a myth until I was in rural Ontario and they all bloody said it !

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