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This is not, in fact, true

Let’s be clear and state three facts.

First, anyone can get monkeypox.

Second, the current outbreak is overwhelmingly concentrated among men who have sex with men.

And third, a growing body of evidence and data suggests that sex among these men is the primary means through which monkeypox is presently spreading.

It is promiscuity spreading it.

If there were an equally promiscuous and concentrated heterosexual community then it would/could be spreading the same way there. Largely enough there ain’t so it ain’t.

If we’re going to be all grown up and tell the truth then let’s be all grown up and tell the truth. It’s having sex with 5 people in a weekend, then going to an orgy on the Monday, repeating that on Weds that is spreading the monkeypox. There’s nothing specific about homo or hetero sexual sex with this one. It’s the frequency of sex and number of partners….

25 thoughts on “This is not, in fact, true”

  1. It is true though that blokes are doing it to each other in the main. Have you ever heard of a lesbian bathhouse orgy? I’m waiting to hear reports of the first M->F Trans bathhouse orgy, unless it’s already happened.

  2. Figures from Atlanta are interesting. 1,013 cases of monkeypox as of yesterday; two-thirds of whom already have HIV. Perhaps there’s an attitude of “I already have HIV, what’s the worst that could happen to me?” Rather unfair on others without HIV or ‘pox.

  3. I’m not sure why the left is making this into a “homophobia” thing. The very people who need to know about the risks are gay men. Even in the worst-case scenario, if it becomes known solely as a gay disease, straight people wouldn’t have been hooking up with these guys anyway. It’s not a permanent virus, so it’s not the same as HIV/AIDS. And as for any discrimination, an employer wouldn’t want anyone with contagious skin blotches to come into the office, regardless of their orientation.

    Just don’t have orgies, and don’t do stuff that will obviously give you diseases. BuzzFeed isn’t implying that this is an integral part of being gay, are they? I thought that was a homophobic thing to do?

  4. Let’s Speak Clearly […] this not a ‘gay disease,’

    Let’s speak clearly: yes it is.

    You’re not going to catch it, and neither is your wife or your dog or Roy Walker from Catch Phrase. Gay guys who bums loads of strangers are getting it, because they’re gay guys who bum loads of strangers.

    They could try not bumming loads of strangers, but apparently the mere suggestion that one shouldn’t bum loads of strangers is literally Hitler, or something, so I’m not sure why we should care. No point worrying about adults determined to ruin their lives, we can’t stop them.

    Andrew M – no, it’s worse than that. They have HIV because they never gave a shit about not catching HIV in the first place. Lot of these guys live only to bum, and literally nothing else matters. It’s like some mad alcoholic trapped in a distillery. To catch AIDS in a first world country in 2022 you have to be either incredibly unlucky or incredibly feckless whilst compulsively fecking.

  5. There is a subset of gays who don’t give a shit (literally) about sexual safety and hygiene. A relative of mine is a food safety officer and gets notified when someone is diagnosed with nasty things like shigellosis, in case it came from a food premises.

    However, where she works most of the cases turn out to be linked to a single gay bathhouse….

  6. They’re creative people these gayers.
    I remember the late 80s and early 90s editions of Time Out with their adverts for HIV support groups thinking how awful. Took me a while to figure out they were so people HIV+ could meet other people HIV+ and burrum them without risking those not HIV.
    No wonder they do well in so-called creative industries.

  7. I wonder how common it is among people who avoided the Covid jab.

    I predict that nobody who values his career will study this issue.

  8. As Dearieme suggests, there’s a possible link to vaccines. The mRNA jabs may/might protect against SARS-COV-19 (or whatever it’s called this week), but they also may/might reduce the ability of the innate immune system to resist other infections. And if the person is already HIV+, there’s immune deficiency from that too.

  9. The WHO are wanting to rename Monkey Pox because the current name could be discriminatory or something. They are going to hold some kind of forum to collect suggestions for an alternative apparently. Anyone have any ideas?

  10. Stonyground:

    “The WHO are wanting to rename Monkey Pox because the current name could be discriminatory or something”

    I think monkeys complained because they didn’t wan’t to be associated with gay humans.

  11. My understanding is that monkeypox is very readily incubated on, and then transmitted from, internal rectal tissue.

    My other understanding (I only have two) is that anal sex is largely – mostly – a gay-guy thing.

    So, no, it’s not just promiscuity. It’s gay man promiscuity and a**holes.

  12. Basically. The whole ‘we can’t stigmatize homosexuality’ is just a red herring for ‘not stigmatizing promiscuity’.

  13. The WHO are wanting to rename Monkey Pox because the current name could be discriminatory or something. They are going to hold some kind of forum to collect suggestions for an alternative apparently. Anyone have any ideas?

    Censored-for-Blasphemy Pox.

  14. Promiscuity is indeed the main agent of the spread of the virus.

    It is, however, the continued promiscuity within a select section within the spectrum of sexual behaviour that accounts for 99% of the propagation of the disease within the population.

    AKA…. It’s the stupid horny gayers who also gave us AIDS way back when who are doing it again and don’t seem to have learned a very important lesson.

    If they can’t keep it in the Pants for a month ( which would simply eradicate the problem…), it’s maybe time to call them out on it?

  15. Grikath: They are constitutionally incapable of keeping it in their pants for a month. Certainly call them out on it so everyone knows where the real problem is, but don’t expect them to take note. It’ll probably circulate in that community until they’ve all had it and become immune, or they decide to get immunised when the vaccine supplies pick up.

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