This sense of decline was heightened after the refugee crisis in 2015, when Sweden accepted a record high of more than 150,000 asylum seekers. That’s almost 1.5% of its overall population.
So the racist card was played, very successfully.
The lessons are clear, I think. If the left promotes right-wing fantasies like balanced budgets and refuses, as a result, to deliver for those who expect the services that they need and deserve from the state then they simply open the door for right-wing extremism.
]It’s not hard to see that happening here in the UK as well.
We need a left-of-centre re-set to build the foundation of a new social democracy. Nothing less will do, unless we want an even further right government in the UK when we’re already in deeply dangerous territory.
I believe that we can do that. But it’s going to be hard work.
There’s a very easy way to do it. Stop the mass immigration and watch that – racist if that’s what you want to call it – pressure drop.
So the racist card was played, very successfully.
Ok, we have grenade attacks and Mohammedan gang rapes now, but let’s not be RACIST, guys!
“It’s only democracy if you do what I tell you!”
When people really do get to choose, they don’t do what they are told, and the message delivered isn’t welcomed. Their votes must be overruled.
If only there was a super-national organisation or two to enforce the preferred rules on the troublesome proles. If the EU did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.
Tut, tut Tim. A simple, obvious, cheap, effective solution.
No wonder it’s not acceptable.
I’ve fixed one paragraph from his original post:
The lessons are clear, I think. If the right promotes left-wing fantasies like Net Zero and the Magic Money tree and refuses, as a result, to deliver for those who expect the services that they need and deserve from the state then they simply open the door for left-wing extremism.
Which is the reality of what has happened across the last three years, in the UK at least.
Fixed first paragraph to relate to the German election last year as well
‘The far-left Greens are part of a three-party bloc that has narrowly won the German general election, replacing a Grand coalition. The Greens took 15% of the vote less than three decades after they were widely viewed as Potential fifth columnists and dangerous lunatics’
Have never been to Ely but I somehow doubt the 20,000+ residents are as diverse and ethnically enriched as somewhere like Malmo. Perhaps if Spud and those like him experienced some of the multi-cultural ‘vibrancy’ first hand they would consider voting for the ‘far right’ too.
And over in the US, it will be interesting to see the reaction of those nice democrat progressives who inhabit the extremely un-diverse Marthas Vineyard and favour open borders, now that that nasty far right Ron De Santis is jetting some illegals from Florida into their area…… New Yorkers weren’t happy when it happened to them and they were diverse to begin with.
What if you could flee Britain’s skyrocketing energy costs by migrating freely to the soon-to-be-toasty arctic?
dobmycmaiigtc?: Temperature is -3C above 80N at the mo.(Source: DMI) and “The Arctic has an average winter temperature of -34° C (-30° F)”: https://poseidonexpeditions.com/about/articles/temperature-in-arctic-circle/
No matter how expensive UK energy is, i’d rather spend winter here in Blighty than up there, although YMMV.
I’d live in the Arctic, if I could have a nice coat like Patrick McGoohan’s in Ice Station Zebra.
Precisely correct. The Establishment of Western Nations need to stop sh*tting on the heads of White people.
Sh*tting on the heads of White people is a bit better than sawing them off. But neither helps to build community cohesion. In my opinion.
“Which is the reality of what has happened across the last three years, in the UK at least.”
Leftist politics is at least 90% projection
Why stop mass immigration? That’s merely the free market efficiently allocating the supply of labour where it is needed. Opposition to immigration is either left wing nonsense or bigotry.
“ We need a left-of-centre re-set to build the foundation of a new social democracy. ”
If it’s possible he’s just surpassed himself in lack of self awareness. We’ve just had years of Sweden being held up as the bastion of progressive ideals. Furthermore our own progressives, Spud included, keep telling us that if only they could come together and stop burying the hatchet in their own heads we’d never again have a Conservative government.
What’s happened in Sweden is a reaction to exactly what he claims he pines. See also Brexit.
Charles
Hmmm. Could be more useless layabouts flooding to where state handouts are greatest.
Charles
Interestingly that was the argument of the great Lord Bauer. However, you have missed the second part. If you’re allowing unlimited free movement you can’t have anything beyond a bare bones welfare state along the lines of a workhouse. Also, it’s a strictly economic argument, not considering any social factors or the presence of potential terrorists/ security risks. A complex picture. I’d stop any prominent left winger from getting a visa as we have enough of our own creating problems.
The Hong Kong immigrants I deal with tangentially all have “No Recourse To Public Funds” stamped on their passports.
Technically there’s a get out where they could get benefits if there was a risk of ‘material destitution’, but I doubt any of those buying new build flats in our city centres are there yet.
They are spot in with their taxes, the children are model pupils and the adults commit crimes at super low levels. We love ’em.
Could be problems two generations from now, maybe the lack of benefit entitlements should pass through the family to the third and fourth generation as the bible sort of suggests.
My nephew was turned back by UK immigration as a “disappearance risk”, and sent back to Hong Kong, so he just went back to his job as an airline pilot.
The lessons are clear, I think. If the left promotes right-wing fantasies like balanced budgets
The Helen Clark Labour government of NZ ran not just balanced budgets, but quite large surpluses. That is one of the major reasons that they remained in power.
In fact Jacinda is only PM now because she also explicitly acknowledges that as an ideal. If she had campaigned on the UK tax-and-spend she would never have been elected in the first place.
So the Potato is doubly wrong. Balanced budgets are not “right wing fantasies”. They are both possible, and they make left wing governments more popular.
Charles, the key word in your comment is ‘mass’.
I doubt anyone here would disagree with the concept of immigration, it’s just that we want to be able to choose who it is that we let in.
However, if you ARE in favour of ‘mass’ immigration, where are you going to accomodate them and how are you going to pay for them (the estimated 60 million plus that the UN believe want to come here – and that’s just Africa)?
As St. Milton said, “you can have open borders or a welfare state – you cannot have both”.
The problem is that uneducated illiterates that don’t even speak the King’s English are about as much use as a chocolate teapot. They just end up on the public dole despite never having contributed. The only way to cut the numbers is to disincentivise them from coming here in the first place and quickly deport those that arrive. Turned up in an illegal channel crossing craft? Asylum rules don’t apply to you then.
Only way to stop the buggers.
John Galt, you naive fool, if only it were that simple…..Oh, as the Aussies found it, it is.
p.s., I saw an article the other day stating that 70 – 80% of ‘refugees / asylum seekers’ in Scandanavia had actually been back to the country they were ‘fleeing’ from since being granted asylum.
Repatriate the cunts. All. Of. Them.
Seems like the good people of Marth’s Vineyard have demonstrated their support for refugees by bussing the asylum seekers who arrived there from Florida off their goddam island.
Expressed preference v revealed preference.
@BiTiN – “useless layabouts”
Very strange layabouts these people. Spending considerable sums, enduring many hardships, and risking their lives in overloaded boats without competent crew, only to arrive and remain idle??? The only reason such people are idle is that they are forced to be by legislation making it illegal for them to work and illegal for people to employ them.
@Addolff – “we want to be able to choose”
No we don’t. We know how good governments are at choosing.
“where are you going to accomodate them”?
There are plenty of fields and every summer huge numbers of tents are abandoned after music festivals. From that they can build their own accommodation. The corollary of what Tim keeps saying, that jobs are a cost and not a benefit, is that people are a benefit and not a cost.
Some people are a benefit, some are a cost. If we choose to allow additional people to settle in our country, it behoves us to select which ones.
Charles:” Spending considerable sums, enduring many hardships, and risking their lives in overloaded boats without competent crew”
Are you actually defending the professional smuggling gangs?
Good way to show your true colours….
@Grikath
I was commenting on the smuggled and not the smugglers.
But if you are attacking people who want to come here, would be net contributors to society, and would have been much poorer or at risk of death or injury elsewhere, that could be taken to be showing true colours.
Ah Charles… You mean that I am of the opinion that roughly 95% of the “imports” through that route are chancers and parasites and should be booted right back to where they came from?..
Yes, you are quite correct. But I have never made a secret out of that particular opinion of mine…