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Just one of those numbers

Last year, 797 people were murdered in Chicago, which was 25 more than 2020 and the most since 1996, according to police data.

That’s about – you know around and about – the number for the entire UK. Chicago has 2.7 million people, the UK some 67 million.

24 thoughts on “Just one of those numbers”

  1. More migrants doesn’t seem the reason, as the UK has plenty.

    Perhaps it’s more guns. Since the locals are likely to be the ones that are armed, are they just defending themselves against being knifed?

  2. Theophrastus (2066)

    Boganboy:
    More blacks means more violence – partly because of the dysfunctional black family and partly because of genetic disposition.

  3. Tim

    Someone pointed this out only the other day, the need to use like-for-like. There will similarly be hot crime areas in the UK. If you are taking the UK as a whole, then USA as a whole is the useful comparator, and which is very roughly 4 times worse than us (per capita). Yes, still worse, but not the sort of rate alluded to above.

  4. Winning the war on drugs. Fentanyl heroin cocaine and oxycodone.
    Maybe the constitution should be amended so that the States have the powers to lose the war by decriminalising these things.
    Certainly would love it if the UK devolved drug law setting to SCO, WAL, ENG and NI.

  5. And with twice the population of Chicago..

    ” 1,330 people lost their lives to drug misuse in Scotland in 2021, according to latest figures published by National Records of Scotland”

    If there’s a war on drugs, guess who’s winning.

  6. Thanks BiND
    I scrolled down to the figures for regions of UK. London has the lowest drug deaths per capita.
    Are there fewer people in despair in London, or are the drugs better quality?

  7. “Boganboy
    September 5, 2022 at 5:00 pm
    More migrants doesn’t seem the reason, as the UK has plenty.

    Perhaps it’s more guns. Since the locals are likely to be the ones that are armed, are they just defending themselves against being knifed?”

    Bro, everyone’s packing where I live. Farmers, farmers’ mothers. We’re not shooting each other at those rates.

    Take out our major Democrat run cities (ie, all of them) and we’re about as peaceful as the rest of the ‘developed’ world.

    It ain’t the guns.

  8. “Bongo
    September 5, 2022 at 7:27 pm
    Winning the war on drugs. Fentanyl heroin cocaine and oxycodone.
    Maybe the constitution should be amended so that the States have the powers to lose the war by decriminalising these things.
    Certainly would love it if the UK devolved drug law setting to SCO, WAL, ENG and NI.”

    States already have that power – and many have exercised it.

    That won’t stop the Federal government doing what it wants though.

  9. Bucko, get with the programme son, you’re not supposed to point to facts and evidence when discussing subjects such as this…..

  10. I tell anyone who supports gun control that they are not serious if the do not support automatic three years in prison for a felon with a gun. No plea bargaining, no parole. Add three more years if they are committing a crime with said gun. People complain that would lock up too many “of color”.

  11. Rhoda, Bucko: I believe Scotland still has the highest rate of violent crime (i.e., all crimes involving assault, but not necessarily homicide) in the world.

    I’m told there’s a letter in the Glasgow City Archives from a mid-19th Century Mayor of Chicago thanking the city fathers for their hospitality during his visit and expressing the desire among Chicagoans to “build a new Glasgow on the Great Lakes”. They seem to have succeeded.

  12. Dennis, Your Guide To The USA

    Here is what you have in Chicago:

    1) A high concentration of individuals who are under-educated and under-employed.
    2) A corrupt city administration controlled by a single political party.
    3) A corrupt police force.
    4) Criminal gangs protected by the city administration and the police force.
    5) A school system that does not educate.
    6) No jobs.

    Democrats, liberals and progressives have nothing to say about this because the single party in power is the Democrat party. 800 or so people being murdered is an acceptable byproduct of the system they have in place to retain and perpetuate their hold on power.

    Democrats, liberals and progressives rail against “systemic racism” because to do otherwise would lead to the acknowledgement that it the system they have created that creates and perpetuates the carnage we see today.

    When the system you have created garners you 90% of the vote, why would you want to do anything other than ensure that system continues in place?

    800 dead by violence isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

  13. @Bucko – “Chicago gun laws are quite strict. Such states tend to have high rates of violent crime”

    Hardly surprising. When you have high rates of violent crime there will be support for more and stricter laws.

  14. @Charles
    Problem being criminals ignore and break the law. Meanwhile honest folks become powerless

    @Dennis
    +1 That’s Left’s strategy in UK too: make the poor crime ridden, poor and uneducated

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