Given that most Tory MPs now expect to lose their seat at the next election – some are even talking about how they’d struggle to find work and pay bills
We end up being ruled by the unemployables…..
Given that most Tory MPs now expect to lose their seat at the next election – some are even talking about how they’d struggle to find work and pay bills
We end up being ruled by the unemployables…..
Oh dear.
How sad.
Never mind.
Think of all the hungry lions in the world…
Well, you should have backed the candidate the voters liked then, shouldn’t you. Fucking fuckwits.
They will have nothing, and they will be unhappy.
* Checks sympathy meter *
Zero.
*buys even more popcorn*
What is up with the West? The Tories are destroying their own party. Our leaders, of any party, are destroying their countries and leading their people into the desert from air conditioning and high availability power, food and health care.
it’s almost as if every politician has decided to commit suicide and take as with them. Including their own families. No sane person does this. Nobody in history has done what we are seeing here.
In addition family elders are pushing their children into high risk medical treatments that will help them have an extra year or two of life. What parent does that?
What is going on?
Time for the big reset but not the one the politicians want. Time for us to reset the politicians. Adoph2 where are you. This is your time.
What if my pronouns are still “Member of Parliament”? Can I still claim expenses?
Sunak is the surprising radical who could save the UK from massive tax hikes
Oh aye?
This is the case for Sunak. His original agenda was fairly uninspiring, but looks radical compared with what Jeremy Hunt is putting together. Hunt has been acting not like a Chancellor but a Mario Draghi-style financier called in to put the Conservative government into receivership. His October 31 statement looks set to be a tax bombshell. Income tax thresholds would probably be frozen again, thereby deepening stealth taxes. Deeply damaging windfall taxes on banks and energy companies would be extended. The promised defence increase would be pencilled in for an implausibly distant date.
Not sure if Rishi and his backers are trying to play Good Cunt / Bad Cunt here, or if Fraser Nelson is just a moron. But no, it doesn’t seem plausible to me that Rishi “tax and spaff” Sunak is going to be some kind of taxpayer-friendly sugar daddy (Alan Sugar daddy, maybe).
Boris should get the job, not because he’s good, but because he was chosen by the British electorate.
“it’s almost as if every politician has decided to commit suicide and take as with them. Including their own families. No sane person does this. Nobody in history has done what we are seeing here.”
Its a ‘madness of crowds’ phenomenon writ on a global scale. The entire university educated class of people has been infected, and proved entirely unresistant to it. Its ironic that ‘educated’ people have proved to be entirely unthinking in their acceptance of wokery and all its nostrums. We have always been told that a university education was supposed to be not so much teaching you ‘stuff’ that you needed to know for a specific job, but the ability to think critically and logically about things. Instead its taught people to be automatons, unable to think for themselves, or analyse anything, and unable to resist groupthink. And they are now the people running everything.
Cue my policy of banning any university educated person from any position of power above dustman………………
Steve
Fraser Nelson has been a twat for years. He’s always wrong and is one of those Spectator columnists, like James Forsythe who is simply not worth the retina fluid to read.
“Well, you should have backed the candidate the voters liked then, shouldn’t you.”
And if Badenoch had been installed, exactly the same thing would have happened, she would have been forced out in disgrace, with no chance ever of a proper shot at the job, despite being the only candidate who appeared remotely competent.
Because as far as I can see the problems have nothing to do with the (admittedly useless) PM, or mini tweaks to taxation, or announcements on QE/reversal from a supposedly independent central bank, and everything to do with everyone being leveraged up to the max – in the case of pension funds, derivatives on derivatives on derivatives to speculate.
People need to accept a consequence of eternal low interest rates being that pensions give a shitty return. This is just the beginning. It’s not even the real, underlying issue.
Incidentally, that big payoff you get for exiting a ministerial position: do you get it just the first time, or every time you quit/are fired?
It just occurs that the conservative party may simply be executing the ultimate scam. Play musical chairs in the cabinet. Several years to go before the music stops. The constant changes of ministers and prime ministers is merely cover – plausible deniability to the charge that they are running the show like a banana republic. Or Germany, even.
@LordT:
“Nobody in history has done what we are seeing here.”
Nah, it’s ancient and common. So much so that most great philosophers and historians have something to say about it: Plato, Ibn Khaldun, Gibbon etc.
@Steve:
“Boris should get the job, not because he’s good, but because he was chosen by the British electorate.”
Half agree. Boris should get the job because he imposed lockdowns etc; he deserves the indelicate rectal treatment from the electorate – and they deserve the opportunity to deliver it.
“Because as far as I can see the problems have nothing to do with the (admittedly useless) PM, or mini tweaks to taxation, or announcements on QE/reversal from a supposedly independent central bank, and everything to do with everyone being leveraged up to the max – in the case of pension funds, derivatives on derivatives on derivatives to speculate.”
Yes, this is the consequences of how we dealt with the GFC coming home to roost. Yes the Ukraine invasion has added the energy price shock on top, but the underlying issue is too much debt, and too much money printing. Public, private, corporate, everywhere is maxed to the eyeballs with debt, and all of them assuming that interest rates would stay at virtually zero forever. And governments have become addicted to printed money. Its no wonder Truss/Kwarteng thought they could spend another couple of hundred billion we don’t have, thats what all governments have been doing for the last 15 years. Spending money they don’t have, and printing it when the markets get a bit nervous about it all. And now the true state of our real wealth is being revealed.
But hey, our host tells us that you don’t need to make stuff to be wealthy any more, all you need to do is keep selling foreigners bits of our real estate, so we can buy things off them. I’m sure the Chinese will be desperate to buy houses in a country that can’t even keep the lights on and behaves (and looks) like Africa……..
As someone said on twttr in response to Tory MPs coming out against fracking,
Roue Le Jour @ 7.30 “Well, you should have backed the candidate the voters liked then, shouldn’t you”.
You mean there was a candidate the voters liked?
We have always been told that a university education was supposed to be not so much teaching you ‘stuff’ that you needed to know for a specific job, but the ability to think critically and logically about things. Instead its taught people to be automatons, unable to think for themselves, or analyse anything, and unable to resist groupthink.
I advanced a theory in a recent comment that the university system of taking young people at an impressionable age away from home & putting them in a strange environment where they prey to insecurity & peer group pressure is much the same technique the military use to produce compliant soldiers & the principal of political re-education camps. So is it any surprise they’re vulnerable to indoctrination by people want to propagate certain ideas & ways of thinking? It’s probably always been like this. Maybe, at one time, it produced competent people. But if you’ve got people in the faculties set on destroying the fabric of society or pushing ruinous ideas it does that just as well.
I’ve always had a great distrust of groups. People behave very differently as a member of a group than they would as an individual. Why I try never to be a member of one.
Reminds me of Jeremy Paxman speaking to someone at CCHQ in late 80s early 90s about who they would typically approach to stand as an MP and they concluded that they could be accurately be described as ‘low fliers’
Otto – standard Torygraph stuff then, eh? It’s been wetter than Diane Abbott’s armpits for years.
BiFR – I think you’re on to something.
JK – that too. I like Boris, but he – more than any other individual – bears the blame for blowing up the economy. Not that things were on the right track before, but he should’ve been far warier of the predictable consequences of lockdowns and Ukraine. It didn’t take a genius to see the huge potential downsides of both courses of action.
The government is going to have to keep making extremely hard and unpopular decisions, so it seems right that the government should be led by someone with a valid electoral mandate to make those decisions.
The alternative will only drive our political system into further odium and disrepute. Much as I hate politicians and think democracy is a pretty crappy way to run a country, and may not even be sustainable in the long term, it’s still better than decisions being made by faceless apparatchiks installed via political gayops. I’m quite fond of the way we used to try to resolve things via peaceful persuasion in a relatively open market of ideas where the public gets a say, it’s a lot better than Byzantine intrigue, Chinese or Russian style rigged elections and controlled media, and the powerful lording it over us like it’s the Hunger Games. Guess I’ve been radicalised by the idea that Britain is our home and we have a stake in how we’re governed.
The early announcers are going for Sunak, probably trying to create “momentum”. They’re also threatening to cause an election if Boris gets back in, which is a pretty good indicator of their collaborationist uniparty necro treason (ishness).
Ben Wallace looks to be backing Boris, which will help him. The worry with Boris in the current context is whether all there is to come out about him has come out.
“So is it any surprise they’re vulnerable to indoctrination by people want to propagate certain ideas & ways of thinking? It’s probably always been like this. Maybe, at one time, it produced competent people. But if you’ve got people in the faculties set on destroying the fabric of society or pushing ruinous ideas it does that just as well.”
I’ve been wondering about this for a long time. It’s a very long time ago, but I had the pleasure of taking half my first degree in a science faculty and half in the arts faculty. The arts faculty, where the hotbed of lefty lesbianism was, you got about twice the credit for half the contact time compared to science.
The faculty really have very little direct influence over undergraduates, especially those parts of the faculty that are less inclined to be part of the reality-based community. This is the UK, where star faculty are a less important thing than in the US.
I suspect the thing is more aligned to student union politics, which has always been left of bonkers, downhill from reality, and utterly divorced from common sense. What the faculty are pushing is the stuff they have never let go of since being undergrads themselves. The sole attraction of academic life today is you get to continue the grunge lifestyle indefinitely. The bragging rights are pretty minimal, the pay is shit, and you don’t even get to shag freshers any more without coming up infront of a disciplinary panel.
“Reminds me of Jeremy Paxman speaking to someone at CCHQ in late 80s early 90s about who they would typically approach to stand as an MP and they concluded that they could be accurately be described as ‘low fliers’”
If MP fodder was ‘low fliers’ in the 90s, WTF do you call people like Jamie Wallis?
Pond life? Bottom feeders? Marianas Trench dwellers?
BiFR
Yes and no.
I did my history degree in the mid 80s. Apart from two or three exceptions the lecturers were hardline Marxists with at least one card carrying CPGB member. The booklists reflected this and I spent a lot of time finding alternatives.
I realised quickly that not toeing the Marxist line in essays put me at an immediate disadvantage. I tried to avoid modules where I had to give political theses and clawed my from a third to a 2:1 just missing a first. For kids who didn’t have the ability ( or were too lazy) to think critically or look beyond the booklists, their only hope was to parrot the Party Line.
I had a lecturer once who said to me ( in class )
“You obviously don’t believe in what you are writing, so why do you do it ?”
“Because I want to pass.”
“Surely you can accept that if you have a cogent well put argument, we will accept it ?”
“Maybe so, but why put myself at an immediate 10 point disadvantage ?”
I hope he learnt something.
BTW – student politics
We elected a Tory president and a Militant committee. It was hilarious.
Otto,
I thought studying 1970s East German feminist literature was a waste of time, said so, and refused to refer to any secondary sources in my essays, realising that citation chic was basically fraud in the arts long before it dawned on me the same applies in science.
They still gave me a 2:1. The firsts were reserved for service kids.
@Steve, October 21, 2022 at 8:59 am
+1 Wefi Sunak is as poisonous as ‘The Jab’ and cyanide. As for Fraser Nelson, he lost all credibility during lockdowns which he supported but often tried to use word salad to imply he ddn’t. No wonder BBC like him
Steve,
“Boris should get the job, not because he’s good, but because he was chosen by the British electorate.”
I knocked on doors in a marginal area in 2019, about as close to the average people as you can get. The biggest thing was Brexit. The second biggest thing was Corbyn. Older people in particular really hated Corbyn.
I’m sure they are all facing the potential of an unfunded reductions in income.