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Surveying women in tech

It also found over 62 percent felt pressure to choose between career and family at least some of the time,

Odd that, 100% of people have to make choices about career and family. Because, you know, that’s just one of those things adults have to do……

11 thoughts on “Surveying women in tech”

  1. Here’s the big thing with software: there are big money moments. Like, yes, you get paid for doing routine business changes, but there are times when a software developer is required to build a thing quickly, or to fix a bug before the morning, and the stakes are big.

    I can name websites where downtime is calculated at £100K/hour. You’re the guy who gets up at 3am and fixes that in an hour instead of it staying down until 10am, you just saved the company £600K. Or your company has just been to see a client and you get a call, and could you work this weekend and build a thing to show them next week? Yeah, we’ll pay overtime. Expense pizzas. The company will make £50K on a sale, no-one cares much about it costing £500 of developer time.

    Even though companies are paying overtime for this work, there’s also value of having these people on the payroll. It’s like a retainer for this. Every team likes to have a couple of these people (because sometimes, even the maniacs are going on holiday, have a girl they’re trying to screw or tickets to Rammstein).

    And one of the problems with tech is that women just don’t have this level of commitment. Even the single ones without husbands and kids. I’ve never seen an on-call rota with a woman on it. So women tend to work in low-grade places. Like council offices, or in huge teams (like Google) where being a B or C player is fine. But of course, B or C players don’t get A wages. There’s lots of women in roles like business analysis or testing, and they’re very good at it but it doesn’t have the same commitment.

  2. BoM4 – I know plenty of women in tech who are highly capable and regularly work their cute feminine bums off (mostly on the sales and marketing side, but same industry), and still earn less than a lot of men doing the same job.

    Reasons are:

    * They’re afraid to ask for pay rises
    * They’re afraid to change jobs for more money
    * They’re afraid to put themselves forward for promotion

    Women hate and fear the possibility of rejection (don’t we all), are more deferential to bosses, and are more naive when it comes to corporate bullshit about the business being “a family”. That’s why mediocre-but-confident men often earn multiples of what the girls do. Because success in business is about hunting, not gathering.

  3. Seems to me in my experience that niche specialisms are generally occupied by male techies while females gravitate towards analysis, production, project management, support/customer facing roles

    I wonder which are harder to fill?

  4. BoM4 – mostly agree. When you’re on an oncall response level that requires you to take your pager into the bathroom when you’re having a crap (under 5 mins to meaningful response), that inevitably precludes you doing anything meaningful without a standby in the house, if you have any dependents. Women (real ones, with kids) on these rotations are rare but not entirely unknown.

  5. My late missus was like BoM4’s developer. She was prepared to put in the hours and earned a tidy wedge for doing so. Before that she worked in pre sales ( like me ) and was at Vienna Airport at 7am each morning to go somewhere daft.

    But it burned her out and she reinvented herself as a trainer.

  6. Martin Near The M25

    The tech industry (especially in big companies) has been more or less turned upside down to make women happy. And many of them act like nothing has happened. Why did we bother?

  7. Steve,

    “BoM4 – I know plenty of women in tech who are highly capable and regularly work their cute feminine bums off (mostly on the sales and marketing side, but same industry), and still earn less than a lot of men doing the same job.”

    I’m specifically talking about techies. I don’t know about the rest. Women project managers are pretty good, but even then, they’re very conservative. Women always want to be project managers in deep pocket companies using mature technology rather than working in some barn. Same in film and gaming. Early days of companies like Apple, Google and Pixar were sausage fests.

  8. “The tech industry (especially in big companies) has been more or less turned upside down to make women happy. ”

    “The world has been more or less turned upside down to make women happy.”

    FTFY

  9. @ BoM4
    Three/four decades ago I lived in a smallish community with two doctors,one male, one female. There wasn’t a rota for emergency call-outs: it was always just the male doctor.

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