Another vileness

Another step on the way to global tax co-ordination

The initial claim is that such a system would include:

Help protect national tax regimes from predatory practices such as tax competition.

Which is, of course, despicably vile in that Tutto Nella Stato sense.

Because as we know it is competition which overturns monopolies. Competition the magic ingredient which reduces the power of the oppressors – simply by giving choice. The claim here is that there should be no competition to Il Stato – therefore no alleviation of the oppressions of it.

The Potato, mashing on a human face forever.

27 thoughts on “Another vileness”

  1. Another step on the way to global tax co-ordination

    The government’s decision to massively hike corporation tax so we don’t compete too hard with the EU?

  2. I’m naturally thinking of the latest climate conference. The ‘rich’ ie white countries are supposed to cut back on reliable plentiful energy while the ‘developing’ ones, like heavily industrialised China, can do as they please while we give them trillions.

    Still, they claim we didn’t cough up the last bribe. I hope our idiotic governments don’t give them a penny this time as well.

  3. The ‘rich’ ie white countries are supposed to cut back on reliable plentiful energy while the ‘developing’ ones, like heavily industrialised China, can do as they please while we give them trillions.

    The ‘plan’ seems to be:

    * Give China most of our industries, intellectual properties, and transfer trillions of dollars, pounds and Euros to Beijing

    * Hand the Chinese yet another massive, structural advantage by deprecating Western energy bases

    * Inform the Chinese that, while we’ll allow them to be our sweatshop, they’d better not get any funny Confucian ideas about competing with the USA at the top end of the tech industry

    * Surround their gargantuan country with missile and naval bases and openly provoke them over Taiwan

    * Smack them with targeted sanctions justified by “human rights” (lol) while the West builds its own social credit system modelled on China’s

    * Profit?

    It’s not much of a plan, but that is the plan.

  4. Spud busies himself blowing his own trumpet.

    “In 2005 John [Christensen] and I co-authored the first manifesto for tax justice ever written.”

    So someone I know in an as yet unpublished post points out that 2005 was….

    “Only 5 years after Oxfam published their 2000 report on Tax Havens which called for Global tax standards under a World Tax Authority and taxing MNCs on a global unitary basis. John Christensen would remember this as he helped to write it. It reads not unlike a manifesto for tax justice.”

    Be interesting to see if Spud responds.

  5. “Another step on the way to global tax co-ordination”

    An international agreement to ignore the Potato of Ely on anything would be a start…

  6. “first manifesto for tax justice ever written.”

    I’m pretty sure the first manifesto ever written was for “tax justice”. It’s too bad it’s a clay tablet somewhere in the Olduvai Valley.

    What a prat.

  7. Off topic but FFS.

    “UK net migration hit 504,000 in the year to June – the highest figure ever recorded, The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimates…

    Overall, an estimated 1.1m people migrated to the UK in the year to June. After subtracting those who emigrated, the UK population has risen by 504,000 – the net migration total.”

    More and more I think retiring abroad is the answer. At least I’d be somewhere where the population was SUPPOSED to be non-British.

  8. And for those that missed an earlier comment from me – net immigration 1980-1997 was 306,000. So the number is now higher every year than it was for the 17 years up to 1997.

  9. Andrew C – I don’t want to be negative or anything, but the island formerly identifying as ‘Great Britain’ is completely fucked and thoroughly deserves all the bad shit that’s coming our way.

    Enjoy the decline.

  10. Country A: We need 10bn zarbles in tax to run our state.
    Country B: We need 1bn zarbles in tax to run our state.
    Country A: UNFAIR UNFAIR!!!!!!!! You *****MUST***** raise 10bn in taxes!!!!!!

  11. I read some time ago that more people came to the UK between 1956 and 2010 than came between 1066 and 1956.
    I absolutely respect the wishes of those who desire to live in a diverse, multi ethnic culture to do so.
    They need to respect the wishes of those of us who don’t.

    And if ‘migration’ and ‘diversity’ is so good. why the fuck didn’t THEY just accept it when we did it to them?

  12. Steve @ 1.20. Thanks for that. If you never hear from me again it’s because of that thought, a bottle of vodka, a razor blade for me wrists and a Coldplay LP on the Gyro………

    Luckily for me, I don’t have a Coldplay record ………..

  13. Addolff – Coldplay are white fucking males and therefore part of the problem.

    You have been fined 3 carbon credits and sentenced to watch a DVD box set of The Great Brown Bake Off for your white supremacery.

  14. One consolation may be that Professor Munchausen tells us he has Long Covid.

    Again.

    And has been promoting superbug resistance by ingesting antibiotics since July.

  15. @Andrew C – “the number is now higher every year than it was for the 17 years up to 1997”

    That’s only to be expected given that populations tend to grow exponentially. Today’s 8 billion world population is double that in 1974, which is double that in 1925, which is double that in 1800, and so on as you go back.

    Plus, of course, the birth rate for British people is well below replacement rate, so if we didn’t have considerable immigration the country would cease to function as a modern society.

  16. if we didn’t have considerable immigration the country would cease to function as a modern society.

    Lol, sure. Can’t have a ‘modern’ society without hordes of Somalis and Albanians.

    You are King Charles (lol) and I claim my £5 while your kingdom still exists.

  17. Plus, of course, the birth rate for British people is well below replacement rate, so if we didn’t have considerable immigration the country would cease to function as a modern society.

    If an animal population becomes stressed, for example: from similar, invasive organisms competing for the same territory and resources, wouldn’t you expect their birth rate to fall? I’m sure I could find some academic research on this if I could be arsed. If your aim was to preserve the original population the solution would be to remove the invaders, not introduce more of them.

  18. “Plus, of course, the birth rate for British people is well below replacement rate, so if we didn’t have considerable immigration the country would cease to function as a modern society.”

    They used to tell us ‘they’ WEREN’T coming over ‘ere to take our jobs and our wimmin. Now they tell us they are and we should be grateful.

    Of course ‘The Great Replacement’ is a conspiracy theory.

  19. Why do free markets develop monopolies?

    Do governments need taxes to enforce anti-trust laws to keep free markets relatively competitive?

    Does this Tim troll deserve a 2 out of 10?

  20. Well, on birthrates we’ve* literally tried nothing, and we’re all out of ideas. If only the matter was taken as seriously as a national concern as, say, the great upskirting crisis of 2018.

    The great upskirting crisis of 2018 led to an Act of Parliament, btw. That’s no small achievement. Those are the sort of things our system of allegedly democratic representation prioritises as Important Things, where Something Must Be Done. Y’know, fanny pics.

    In any event, not that it’s much use to man nor immigrant, the model of insourcing your population from low quality societies is also on to plums, being as it is yet another one of them Robbing Peter to pay Abdul scams, which don’t work in the long run (and 2020 might be the year the long run finally arrived). The variously inanely grinning overpromoted middle managers currently staffing our government are pounding their breasts about stability. How we all laughed when Gordon Brown did the same thing, with the same policies.

    Think South Africa, where they’ve gone from nuclear power to regular blackouts in only a generation. Yeah, they warned you, but it didn’t change the outcome.

    *Everybody except Rocco and Jacob Rees-Rocco

  21. Dear Mr Worstall

    I came across this gem on HMRC’s website:

    https://taxavoidanceexplained.campaign.gov.uk/?utm_source=govuk_home&utm_medium=refferal&utm_campaign=upstream_

    So if I avoid tax by working less or brewing my own beer or making my own wine I am doing something naughty?

    Does P³ Murphy have a side-line in writing rubbish for HMRC?

    The latest Sunday missive from the Other Place is titled A recipe for managed decline?.

    Isn’t that precisely how our beloved government™ of an earlier time made us the sick man of Europe and necessitated us joining the Common Market (ho ho)? Perhaps they hope that making us the sick man of Europe 2.0 will get us back in again. Failing to cancel the eu-ordained HS2 is a clear declaration that we have not actually left, but the myth that we have and the destruction wrought upon our economy will merely be an excuse to have ruinous conditions imposed upon us when we are formally cast back in.

    In the same email Mr Littlewood links to his Comment in The Times titled Why is there a reluctance to scrap EU laws that could land a Brexit dividend?. Answer: because we haven’t left.

    DP

  22. @Steve – “Can’t have a ‘modern’ society without hordes of Somalis and Albanians.”

    I know you have a very insular view of the world, but Somalia and Albania make up a very small proportion of the world outside the UK.

    @KyleT – “If an animal population becomes stressed,…”

    British women are not refraining from having children due to predation from other species. The fertility rate is 1.58 children per woman for England and Wales (see https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/birthsummarytablesenglandandwales/2020 ). And if the original population is so weak as to need protection from outsiders, maybe they should be left to die out. What use are they?

    (and your reasoning is also defective. A causes B, and we see B, does not mean that A has caused it).

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