Hmm, dunno

What was surgery like in first century Palestine?

Jesus could have been transgender, according to a University of Cambridge dean.

23 thoughts on “Hmm, dunno”

  1. Jesus could have been an alien. Jesus could have been gay. Jesus could have been God.

    All with the same standard of evidence as the illustrious Dean’s statement.

  2. Plenty good for the age, given that Roman medicine lent heavily from, and expanded on, the Egyptian traditions. And eunuchs were a Thing in many areas, so there’s that..
    Then again, the ancient Romans had Pretty Strong Views on stuff like gender and Place in Society..

    As for the notions described in the article… Projection, much?
    This besides the sheer wonder and bafflement at the sheer insanity of the whole thing. Even for Cambridge this is a bit…..much…

  3. One one hand, it’s like an episode of Brass Eye, where perhaps they’re saying any old shit just to see what they can get people to nod along to.

    On the other hand, I fear they genuinely believe this garbage and will complain to our employers if we disagree.

    And how far has Cambridge fallen, eh?

  4. Well, Grikath, one just has to stand out from the rest of the clergy, doesn’t one?

    And thanks to the vast holdings of the Church of England, ‘get woke, go broke’ doesn’t really apply.

  5. People were crucified naked in the days of Rome, so any surgery would have been noticeable. Women were sometimes crucified facing the cross to preserve their modesty.

    Depictions of the crucifixion show Jesus with a loin cloth or in some modest pose where the genitalia are not displayed or simply omitted. Some more explicit depictions were ordered to be modified by various Popes along the way.

    This was in the name of modesty so as not to offend the faithful or be disrespectful to their Christ. This is well understood in the art world and by clergymen, except at the University (?) of Cambridge.

  6. The first saw mill came along 200 years after Christ, so he would have been crucified tied to a tree trunk. Hand-milled beams would have been expensive. And you can lever them out of the ground by wriggling back and forth.

    Don’t know if that would be true but obviously more important to research if Jesus was trans.

  7. “Jesus was a black man
    No Jesus was Batman
    No, no, no, no, not at all
    That was Bruce Wayne”

    Sean Ryder, “Kelly’s Heroes” Black Grape.

  8. Relying for evidence on pictures that were painted 1370-ish (or even 1960) years after the event – superlative academic integrity…

  9. Depends on who’s comprising the tables, John. There’s a lot of us would regard anyone who’s graduated from the top three in the past few decades with deep suspicion. And just maybe we’re the ones that count.

  10. after a “drink-fuelled initiation” into his university’s agriculture society. The ceremony, which took place in Dec 2016, involved drinking vodka from a pig’s head.

    An improvement over D Cameron then?

  11. “Well, Grikath, one just has to stand out from the rest of the clergy, doesn’t one?”

    He could always try believing in God.

  12. There’s a lot of it about, especially in Cambridge. I witnessed this personally:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/church-of-england-college-apologises-students-queer-evening-prayer

    And, in the Buddhist world, there’s a very influential Aussie monk called Sujato who claims the Buddha was intersex:

    https://buddhistuniversity.net/content/essays/politics-of-the-buddhas-genitals_sujato

    and just loves all the trans stuff:

    https://sujato.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/transgood/

  13. “Dean of Chapel, Fellow for Alumni Relations and Development.”

    I hope the ass enjoys explaining to the College’s Governing Body why donations from the alumni have fallen off and the evidence that it will have been nothing to do with his bêtise. Certainly not, it’ll be because of Brexit and Global Warming.

  14. Fruits of a quick googling: it seems that Banner and Heath have no objection to censoring other people’s speech: https://www.divinedissent.org/lent-term-letter

    It turns out that Heath is a trustee at St Clement’s Church and that “Charity reporting is overdue by 27 days”. Glad to know he takes his responsibilities seriously.
    https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/5063210/trustees

    To be fair, getting your accounts ready on time must be much less fun than reducing elderly Christians to tears. And will do far less to advance your career.

  15. Dunno about Palestine, but there was one famous case of gender reassignment surgery in the early Roman empire: Sporus.

  16. They tend to oscillate between “Fuck your god” and “Jesus would’ve been more like us” quite frequently.

  17. after a “drink-fuelled initiation” into his university’s agriculture society. The ceremony, which took place in Dec 2016, involved drinking vodka from a pig’s head.

    An improvement over D Cameron then?

    Did he check it was a different pig?

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