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Lies, lies, lies

This is as much about patient safety as pay’: NHS faces wave of strikes as more unions vote

So if we solved patient safety but didn’t raise wages then the strikes wouldn’t happen then?

Like fuck – therefore the statement is a lie, isn’t it.

17 thoughts on “Lies, lies, lies”

  1. “This is as much about patient safety as it is about pay. A third of GMB ambulance workers think delays they’ve been involved with have led to the death of a patient.”

    “Thinking” has little to do with it, and with the nowadays Internationally Renowned NHS Waiting Lists ( Envy of the World™ ), I very much doubt the “delay” lies with the ambulance drive to the hospital..

  2. What the fuck happened to all the money saved during 2020, when ‘Our NHS’ (PBU it) decided they were going to shut down for months on end and have the staff make TikTok videos instead?
    Seriously, not carrying out Grannies hip replacement saved some money?

    But if only we ‘invested enough’ in our healthcare system…..
    NHS funding 2007 = £111Bn
    NHS funding 2022 = £190Bn

  3. ‘This is as much about patient safety as pay’: NHS faces wave of strikes as more unions vote

    This is the same line of bullshit that the RMT uses to justify overmanning on the Tube and railways.

    If frontline staff numbers were being deliberately and specifically cut then there might be a justification for it, but all that’s happening is that they want more money for the same work, which is totally different.

    If I was in government, my response would probably to remove the requirement for nurses to be graduates (which was always moronic, given the nature of much of nursing need) and see how the Royal College of Nursing likes them apples.

    Because two can play at that game.

  4. @Addolff

    “if only we ‘invested enough’ in our healthcare system”

    In the 1950s, spending on the NHS was around 11% of all government spending. Today it is around 32%.

  5. Presumably numerous diversity and equality consultants along with their highly-paid minions will also be taking time off.

    Don’t they even care if someone’s feelings get hurt?

  6. JG@ 8.42. As the rail system won’t function unless the staff work rest days and overtime it does seem to indicate that perhaps there aren’t enough frontline staff. Now, a cull of HR, diversity / inclusion managers would definitely be worthwhile.

    Doomed from the start?:
    December 1948, just 5 months after the ‘Appointed Day’, Aneurin Bevan, the then Minister of Health, informed his Cabinet colleagues of budget shortfalls: the £176m allocation for the first 9 months of the service needed to be increased by £50m. In fact, it was clear to Bevan within the first week of the new NHS that a miscalculation in its’ running costs had been made, “so fundamental that it virtually negated the central assumption on which the NHS had been set up”.
    Honigsbaum has suggested that the Ministry of Health deliberately underestimated the new service’s costs as it felt the Treasury would not agree to a more realistic, but higher, amount.

  7. A transparent attempt to reach the Moral High Ground.

    The Moral High Ground is reached by piling up all the dead bodies, then clambering up the sides.
    Best done quickly, before the pile of bodies gets too squishy.

    cf Abraham Lincoln, Truman, Anthony Blair, and a long list of other despicables. Is that Boris in the queue?

  8. The Government shut down the country, printed loads of money, and turfed out most non-COVID patients. And these unions demanded more. HL Mencken springs to mind:

    Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

  9. I have been a bit poorly lately. When this has happened in the past ( usually at the weekend, annoyingly ), I was forced to go to A&E, because the local walk-in refused to see me and told me to ring 111 ( yeah sure ). It meant though that I got a Xray, bloodtests, infusions etc.
    OK I was vindicated because a couple of times, I was kept in, but they kept on telling me off for going straight to hospital.

    So this time it happened during the week and I did it by the book. After spending hours in the GP’s telephone queue, I eventually spoke to a “senior clinician” ( ie nurse ). She and the doctor tried to call me back, but my phone rejects withheld numbers and they didn’t have the wit to leave a voicemail ( despite it saying “This is the voicemail of Ottokring…” ). They also got some very basic clinical procedures wrong. I am not a mystery to medical science. Even if they don’t see this condition often.
    I told them what the treatment was for my condition and could they organise an appointment for a Xray and with the various specialists. Frankly they were hopeless and I have to be on their case to get a repeat prescription. Is it any wonder people go straight to the hospital ?

  10. “they didn’t have the wit to leave a voicemail”: that may not be a matter of wit, it may be “patient confidentiality” policy.

    Our GP practice won’t leave voicemail either. Oddly, they will talk to me on my assurance that I am me, confirmed simply by address & dob. Maybe they distinguish between (i) their leaving info around and (ii) a fraud deliberately impersonating me. The first would be their fault and the second wouldn’t be. I’m guessing, of course.

  11. dearieme

    Yeah, true, but all they need to say is “Please call Dr Shipman at the surgery.”
    Otherwise I have no idea that they called

  12. But, O, our GP won’t do that either. It would mean, after all, that my wife could check our voicemail and find that I had business with the GP. I really do suspect that this is a matter of policy – whether NHS policy, or BMA-recommended policy, or some other level of policy, I don’t know.

    I may say it annoys me too.

  13. Bloke in North Dorset

    Addolff @ 9:35 am,

    I believe Bevan argued strongly against making the state pension pay-as-you-go and wanted to support current pensioners outside the NI system but lost the argument in Cabinet.

  14. @Addolff, November 28, 2022 at 8:40 am

    In 1998, Blair, NHS was ~£37 Billion

    @Andrew C
    In the 1950s, spending on the NHS was around 11% of all government spending. Today it is around 32%

    42% iirc

    NHS needs broken up and privatised. We’d see >500,000 unecessary bureaucrats sacked

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