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Who in buggery are you?

Elon Musk has disbanded Twitter’s entire office in Brussels after a row over the policing of the social network’s content in the bloc.

Julia Mozer and Dario La Nasa, who were in charge of Twitter’s digital policy in Europe, left the company last week, according to the Financial Times.

There’s no particular reason why the moderation of Twitter – or any other operational matter – requires an office in Brussels. What does require an office there is lobbying the EU. Not having that office means that lobbying the EU isn;t worth the time or cost.

That’s what hurts:

Shortly afterwards, European commissioner Thierry Breton issued a curt reminder of the EU’s content-moderation laws, saying: “In Europe, the bird will fly by our rules.”

“Who the fuck are you and why do I care about your rules?”

29 thoughts on “Who in buggery are you?”

  1. The EU isn’t the only one having problems desaling with the fact that Twitter is now, in fact, not beholden to their meddling anymore.

    Twitter isn’t a company anymore, it’s the private property of a US citizen. Which changes the playing field a. lot.

    And it’s giving the Busybodies a hell of a headache..

  2. “Shortly afterwards, European commissioner Thierry Breton issued a curt reminder…”

    I thought that was long before rather than shortly after and was why Musk closed the office.

  3. Not sure what the EU could do to Twitter for non compliance. Going all China and blocking the app from internet service providers would probably backfire on them politically. Maybe stop EU companies from advertising on the platform?

    It’s a bit different from Apple, who had to comply with the EU’s demand it uses a USB-C connector for phone charging in order to sell there.

  4. Neither was it clear whether Twitter was closing its office in the European capital, one of the world’s largest centres of tech regulation.

    Not innovation, mind. Regulation. I remember when sensible adults would’ve been ashamed of that.

    PJF – the EU’s charger cable jihad was retarded. The market had already standardised on only two main types long before the EU pulled its soft little finger out of its big sloppy regulatory orifice.

    20 years ago, when mobile devices were still a new idea, there were a ton of different options and it was annoying. But the free market really did solve this problem through innovation and listening to customer feedback. Now the EU has stupidly imposed USB-C as if a standard developed in 2014 is the final word in mobile charging solutions, it just means that when a better standard comes out the Chinese and Americans will get to benefit from it long before European consumers do. And European tech companies will be years behind the competition as usual.

  5. I don’t know the details about this, as it’s not an area of Twitter I knew about, but there are quite a few folk saying that Musk is on a mission to clean up child sexual exploitation on Twitter. He seems to have done more in the last few weeks than the previous Twitter governance did in years.

    https://www.newsweek.com/while-blue-checks-whine-about-extremism-elon-musk-protecting-sexually-exploited-children-opinion-1761383

    Not content with annoying all the right people, he’s actually saving kids as well.

  6. I’m glad to see that Mr Musk is dealing harshly with some of Twitter’s overseas offices. I’ve long suspected that their overseas offices, in particular the London office, are basically a nest of petty grasses who work rather too closely with UK police forces to target those who the Left believe are ‘wrongthinkers’. Twitter’s London office have also on a number of occasions met and have had good relations with a whole host of identity politics and censorious grievance mongers and have basically done the bidding of said grievance mongers.

    I do like the idea of Mr Musk not banning people for views that some find offensive as offensiveness is a very very personal and individual thing. It’s not something that’s easy to make a hard and fast rule about. I agree with Mr Musk’s new policy of bringing back many of those who were banned provided that they were not spammers and were not directly inciting violence. I’m favourable to this policy provided that the definitions are based on US law not UK law this is because the definitions of ‘incitement’ are far far more broad in UK law than US law.

    It will be good to see Twitter more open to different points of view and it’s even better because such policies will really upset the far left who have been able to manipulate Twitter to exclude those who are not left and allegedly use information supplied by Twitter to get Britons arrested and prosecuted for wrongthink.

  7. Billionaire but not Lefty = evil
    Obama buying multi-milion dollar property THE CONSENSUS tells us will be hundreds of feet underwater in a couple of years = nothing to see here, move on!

  8. Now the EU has stupidly imposed USB-C as if a standard developed in 2014 is the final word in mobile charging solutions, it just means that when a better standard comes out the Chinese and Americans will get to benefit from it long before European consumers do.

    Nah, it’ll hold everyone back. The EU is a big enough market that physical product companies will be forced to comply (as Apple just did), much like all US car manufacturers have to comply with California wank regs. So it’ll be USB-C from here on in until sufficient corporations ask for / pay for permission to have something new.

    Not that Apple will mind; USB-C contains a wide enough number of protocols to enable their product differentiation games. So the base iPhone 15s will get USB 2 connection speeds while the top units might even get Thunderbolt 3 (but probably just USB 3.2). They’ll need something faster for Pro-Res video use. Apple might eventually go entirely wireless charging for their phones; they seem keen on having completely sealed, fully waterproof (repair proof) units.

  9. BiA – incidentally, Musk’s crusade against pedo content on Twitter is nuking a lot of Antifa accounts.

    Pure coincidence, natch.

  10. ‘ Now the EU has stupidly imposed USB-C as if a standard developed…’

    Neither the EU nor US Congress imposes anything, that’s just an illusion. They are the middle-men for the various international bodies and committees unknown to us, unelected by us, unaccountable to us, but paid by us who decide what’s going to be what on Planet Earth and his best they can meddle in our private lives.

  11. PJF – I honestly dunno, and here’s why:

    The world has changed a lot since 2007. The smartphone is now the world’s favourite way of connecting to the Internet. There’s billions of people in China, India, Africa and LATAM who would never have been able to afford a smartphone in the late 2000’s, who are now rocking Samsungs and Xiaomis and Huaweis. India and China are already big enough markets to be worth region-specific smartphone models.

    The EU, on t’other, is steadily shrinking in importance as a market. It could be that Euros just get the shitty, nerfed versions of new phones while the rest of the world gets the latest cool new tech.

    It kinda feels like Asia is pulling ahead of the West in tech, hence the agitation in the US, and their attempt to put China back in its place (the 90’s). I don’t think that’ll be successful, I think Asia is going to be the rich, powerful Daddy continent everyone else in the world wants to be like or move to. This time next year we’ll all be sporting dots on our foreheads and listening to Mongolian rap.

  12. F411 is quite correct. Mr. Musk needs only a lobbying office in Brussels – and a large box of brown envelopes.

  13. My favorite was when they threatened to remove Farage and the Brexiteers from European Parliament.

    “Well, do it then!”

  14. Steve: “incidentally, Musk’s crusade against pedo content on Twitter is nuking a lot of Antifa accounts.”

    I think that’s little to do with kiddie-fiddling, and a lot more with the announced looking-into of bot accounts.
    Y’know.. the ones that are tuned to retweet each other to cause those Twatterstorms that the Activists claim are All Real™ People™ ?

  15. Steve: “and listening to Mongolian rap.”

    Dunno about Mongolian rap, but there’s one or two Mongolian matal bands that are actually quite good, and in their lyrics look back on the Proud Times their Ancestors fucked over most of Asia and Europe… 😉

  16. there’s one or two Mongolian matal bands that are actually quite good

    I’ve heard The Hu, any other recommendations?

  17. Steve: I tend to agree. It’s worth reading up on the United States’ 1940-84 mandate for sealed-beam headlamps. By the end, European (and, to an extent, Japanese) manufacturers were content to make their cars look weird, and in some cases have less functionality, in the American market rather than follow the outdated US standard worldwide.

  18. It kinda feels like Asia is pulling ahead of the West in tech, hence the agitation in the US, and their attempt to put China back in its place . . .

    It may feel like it; it may even be true in some areas, but overall they stole it or had it provided to them. We’ll see how they do now the well is running dry. There are massive geo-political and socio-economic fault lines in all of them. They are very dynamic and industrious but I fear this will be diverted into war.

    And if China wants a piece of India (literally) then we can just keep buying their cheap shit and helpfully say to the Indians, “how’s your cheap Russian oil, motherfuckers?”

  19. BiW: I’d have to dig .. The Hu are a given, but to Retro my Pleasant Surprises against my Wristbands through CoronaAge over the past half-decade…
    Then again…. who actually knows of the existence of the Hu, unless….. 😛

  20. Steve,

    “The EU, on t’other, is steadily shrinking in importance as a market. It could be that Euros just get the shitty, nerfed versions of new phones while the rest of the world gets the latest cool new tech.

    It kinda feels like Asia is pulling ahead of the West in tech, hence the agitation in the US, and their attempt to put China back in its place (the 90’s). I don’t think that’ll be successful, I think Asia is going to be the rich, powerful Daddy continent everyone else in the world wants to be like or move to. This time next year we’ll all be sporting dots on our foreheads and listening to Mongolian rap.”

    I don’t know about pulling ahead quite yet, but it’s growing faster in terms of wealth per capita and when you consider the number of people, their total wealth and power is growing, and the EU’s is shrinking, relatively. The EU has less than 10% of the world’s smartphones. In a few years, that’ll be 8%. How much can you push companies around with only 8% of the target market?

    It’s why I voted for Brexit. Even if it wasn’t a good moment at that point, UK trade with the rest of the world was growing. The EU can’t push us around when there are lots of men in Beijing who want Church’s brogues and to drink Lagavulin 15.

    A lot of countries in the EU have a much bigger idea of their importance than they actually are. You see this with the French obsession with forcing people to listen to crappy Johnny Hallyday records or how they think their wine is so great, even though the Californians beat them in a blind tasting. Three times. Britain got over this.

  21. And if China wants a piece of India (literally)

    China has no interest in Indian land. It would come with Indians, for a start. And at the end of a stupidly long supply chain.

    Last time they had a chance, after their on war, they turned it down.

    China is expansionistic, sure, but other than Taiwan it isn’t after land. Their racism prevents them, if nothing else. They have no interest in adding cultures that aren’t traditionally part of the Chinese cultural nexus. Not sure on Mongolia, but they haven’t made any noises in that direction.

  22. China has no interest in Indian land.

    That may or may not be true, but what is true and known is that their border has several large areas of dispute, some occupied by China and some occupied by India, that China is willing to fight for. It may be more of an issue of national pride rather than actual territory (largely empty and mountainous) but China is actively interested in resolving things in its favour.

    Although not actively disputed currently, China has historical claims on large swathes of what is now Russia (because the territories were previously China). If Russia wishes to abandon the international order and return to pre WWII methods of settlement-by-conflict, and massively weaken itself in the process, then its wishes may come true in ways it hadn’t intended.

  23. Grikath – those Hu boys are great, I think old Genghis himself would approve.

    Sam – You’re right, it’s an interesting subject. I had a read, and it sounds like the US regulation was probably a good thing for about 5 years (you don’t want people driving around with useless headlights) and then became another of the countless pointless bureaucratic drags that accrete like clouds of midges yet nevertheless provide valued employment to civil servants and are thus jealousy guarded long after they ossify into irrelevance.

    PJF – And if China wants a piece of India (literally) then we can just keep buying their cheap shit and helpfully say to the Indians, “how’s your cheap Russian oil, motherfuckers?”

    I should hope so.

    Much as I like and respect many Indians :headwobble:, India is not our friend, and Indians in general don’t particularly like us. We have no reason to get involved in their territorial disputes, especially not against China.

    There’s also not much we could do beyond impotent threats and self-harming sanctions. A single carrier group isn’t worth much against the PLAN, and we’re not going to go nuclear, so what do? Same as we should always do to any war we don’t need to be involved in: thoughts and prayers.

    BoM4 – The EU can’t push us around when there are lots of men in Beijing who want Church’s brogues and to drink Lagavulin 15.

    It’s one of the most amazing and heartening of things, how billions of people have been lifted out of poverty and into affluence in a historically mind bogglingly short period of time. Not just in China, but across much of the world. It’s a beautiful thing, the accumulation of wealth, and the sense of ease and hope and optimism that goes with it. Ayn Rand was right about a man being a lot more confident when he has money in his wallet, and I believe Mrs Thatcher instinctively understood this also. A lot of the pointless cruelty, and meanness, and nastiness of life goes away quick when people start earning.

    A lot of countries in the EU have a much bigger idea of their importance than they actually are.

    It’s really getting comical now. A bunch of people who probably can’t keep the electricity flowing this winter and definitely can’t (won’t) keep their borders secure think they’re still in charge. Militarily, Europe is already worthless. Economically, they’ve decided to cripple themselves with net zero and welfare state Shangri-Las and infinity low-IQ immigrants. Many parts of Europe will be lucky to still have hot running water and no outdoor slave auctions by 2050, but they’re planning on controlling global weather patterns in 2100. Lol.

    Btw, this was amazing:

    In the first round of layoffs, Twitter sacked about half its 7,500 workforce, dissolving entire teams, including human rights, machine learning and algorithmic ethics.

    How many people were ‘working’ at Twitter on absolutely nonproductive cockwaffle such as “human rights” (bitch, you’re a website that lets people send text messages, fuck off with this nonsense) and “ethics” (does your code run or not?), because it seems the answer was “half of them”.

  24. It will be interesting to see if Elon publishes some of the rules or algorithms used for content moderation.
    They managed to deplatform a sitting President of the USA on spurious grounds, but seemingly weren’t able to identify accounts pushing child porn? Would also be nice to know which Pols. and orgs. flagged which accounts to be banned.
    Btw, the Hu are cool, but I prefer Leningrad Cowboys. Check out their version of ‘American Woman’.

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