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Well, yes dear, quite so

Public duty? For these Tory defectors, being an MP is just another career move
Polly Toynbee

When being an MP offers status and or cash then it’ll get the sort of people who want status and or cash.

When being an MP offers only the opportunity to perform public duty – no cash, no status – then it will attract those who wish to perform public duty.

So, stop paying ’em and treat them as the scum they are in order to gain the sort of MP you say you want.

Next?

17 thoughts on “Well, yes dear, quite so”

  1. I don’t know how it is possible to describe the type of person who would make a good MP given no one can articulate what an MP is actually for. Pontificating preening popinjay is about as close as you might reasonably get, based on the emoirical evidence.

  2. For these Tory defectors, being an MP is just another career move

    In total contrast, labour MPs are entirely motivated by public duty and would turn down any payment or honours offered…

  3. Yes, if you stop paying them, you would get people who want to perform a public duty and the “scum” would head for the Chiltern Hundreds and the Manor of Northstead at top speed. Politics is not a career move for today’s lot, it’s the only career they’ve ever had.

  4. ‘He and Osborne are to blame for the shocking state we’re in, their austerity and their arrogant presumption they’d win a Brexit referendum.’

    Which, as it turned out, they did. Ooooh, that’s never going to stop hurting, is it, Polly..?

  5. When being an MP offers only the opportunity to perform public duty – no cash, no status – then it will attract those who wish to perform public duty.
    You reckon? I’m more inclined to think that’d attract those who want power. They’d be prostituting themselves even more than they do now. You can’t get round – the worst person to elect to political office is someone wants to be elected to political office.

  6. Matt Hancock – bless him – had the right short of idea, but instead of Ant and Dec is should be some irl Stuart Granger great white hunter type pursuing them on a private island for our amusement.

    My guess is that MP’s are going to make themselves so thoroughly hated by the public they’ll soon be rocking armed guards wherever they go and it’ll be harder to get an appointment at an MP’s surgery than it is at your GP, but it’ll all be the internet’s fault natch.

  7. Pay them based on results: GDP goes up ==> chancellor gets paid. Conversely, NHS results bad ==> health secretary gets the lions. Energy crisis ==> crucifixion, backdated to include that twat Milliband.

  8. “being an MP is just another career move”.

    My parasite used to be an actor (Actor = Someone who tells lies for a living). Seems to me he’s doing the same thing with a different job title.

  9. It’s pointless to bother about motivation when what matters is actual performance. Who cares why they do the job so long as they do it. Unfortunately the interests of their constituents or the country at large are rarely a consideration compared to lining their pockets, climbing the greasy pole, doing what looks good to whoever it is who is calling the shots or merely voting in the lobby like a bloody sheep. Where’s the public service in that?

  10. He and Osborne are to blame for the shocking state we’re in, their austerity and their arrogant presumption they’d win a Brexit referendum.

    Yes, curse those arrogant and presumptuous popinjays.
    How dare they allow the populace to have a vote on one of the most fundamental aspects of where the country is headed?
    They should have just carried on dragging us further into the EU, because that’s what I wanted and obviously I know better than everyone else.

  11. bloke in spain,

    “You reckon? I’m more inclined to think that’d attract those who want power. They’d be prostituting themselves even more than they do now. You can’t get round – the worst person to elect to political office is someone wants to be elected to political office.”

    Or you get rich people who have enough money, and just spend public money on whatever nutjob nonsense they think will be good for the country.

    I prefer the idea of paying for greed pig capitalists to be MPs. People who do the job so they can drive a Porsche and pick up trophy wives. People who really don’t want to lose the job because they’ll go back to earning sod all, so will make sure they do whatever they can to keep the voters happy.

    Most politicians are already well-meaning amateur clowns with money behind them. Poorer people with talent are not going to go into politics to maybe end up earning £80K a year for a few years. So you either get rich Tory clowns like Cameron, or on the Labour benches, idiots who would struggle to earn £30K elsewhere.

  12. If you don’t pay MPs, then the only people who will be MPs will be those rich enough not to need paying in order to be able to eat. Is that really the world she wants?

  13. Democracy is almost extinct. Democracy is the people ruling themselves. We do not rule ourselves. We hire professionals to do it for us.

    And here’s the thing: it’s very easy to go on to say that they do it very badly, but no… they do it very well, if we take into account the fact, already noted, that ruling is their profession. There’s an awful lot of ruling going on these days. Over the century or so that MPs have been paid a salary, the ruling industry has seen unprecedented growth. There are more professional rulers, representing a larger proportion of the economy, than ever in this country’s history.

    A century ago, the combined staff of the Foreign and Colonial offices numbered in the hundreds; today, the FCO employs over 4,500 in the UK alone, despite the rather unfortunate loss of an Empire to administer. In 1922, when Ireland was spun off, there were a paltry 615 MPs drawing salaries; today, taking the branch offices into account, that number has grown to a healthy 885. (Before the loss of the joint venture in Belgium, of course, it was tantalizingly close to 1,000. And that’s not counting ancillary staff. No wonder the profession, en bloc, opposed getting shot of it.) The professional ruling business has been a massive success. For the professional rulers.

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