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Fly-tippers would be forced to join community “chain gangs” to clean up their mess under a reform of penalties for anti-social behaviour proposed by Labour.

Give those who have offended clear sight of where everyone else has offended.

“Ah, that’s where Jimmy was dumping that shite. Good spot, eh?”

19 thoughts on “This works then”

  1. I see Banksy fly tipped a broken freezer in Margate a few days ago. Looking forward to seeing him on the chain gang. They can probably do him for “graffiti” too.

  2. The calibre of MPs! Are there stats on how many fly-tippers get caught? I myself was guilty once of pushing a clapped-out washing machine to the grass verge on the junction with the main road late one evening. Somehow it disappeared within 12 hours. Perhaps a passing policeman picked it up

  3. I believe this was suggested by a London council in the halcyon days of St Ken of Livingstone, but the ‘workers’ unions complained that it was their members job to remove rubbish from hedgerows, roadsides, etc, (not that they ever did) and, with the threat of more strikes, the plan was shelved. Can’t see anything changing with the latest bunch of tunnel visioned union numpties

  4. Oh yeah, I almost forgot how much Labour loves illiberal bollocks such as ASBOs and ID cards.

    Concentration Camps of Tolerance when?

  5. They’ll have to catch them first. Then fund the court system to process the > 500k fly tipping offences (reported in 2019-2020).

    Alternatively, just remove the landfill charges that have cause the problems and handed this ‘business’ to organised crime…

  6. What are the chances someone feeding the pigeons will be caught up by this in some way and the fly tippers get away with it?

  7. “What are the chances someone feeding the pigeons will be caught up by this in some way and the fly tippers get away with it?”

    This. The current system is more concerned with people dropping cigarette butts than those who fly tip industrial quantities of waste in laybys and gateways the country over, because the former are easy marks, while the latter are hardened criminal types and not to be messed with by a glorified traffic warden. Any new laws would be enforced in exactly the same manner.

    As for catching people, I’ve had loads cases of stuff being fly tipped in my fields and gateways, occasionally you will find evidence of addresses etc, I’ve passed these on to the local fly tipping ‘team’, nothing happens. They won’t even prosecute anyone on the say so of a witness. If I saw a van tipping waste, noted the number and was prepared to give a statement they wouldn’t prosecute as it would be ‘my word against theirs’. Only when stuff is caught on camera will they prosecute, and as even CCTV heaven UK doesn’t cover every mile of road in the country, that just isn’t going to happen. Occasionally they set up a sting at a known tipping location and get lucky, but thats a miniscule fraction of the total that goes on, entirely unhindered by the authorities tasked with dealing with it.

  8. “Will they have to eat 50 eggs?”

    That’s conjured up a mental picture of an impressive pair of soapy tits being dragged over a windscreen.

  9. @Diogenes – In the 1990s there was an urban myth about a man stopping to recover a microwave that had been dumped on the hard shoulder.
    A few minutes later the police pull him over and the driver starts trying to explain why he took the microwave. The police response is that he should stop wittering on about kitchen goods and explain just exactly what he was doing with their speed trap!

  10. Don’t you just love Local Authorities? Make it super-complicated, bureaucratic, and expensive to dump waste legally, then complain that people are dumping waste illegally.

    Sheesh.

  11. Alternatively, just remove the landfill charges that have cause the problems and handed this ‘business’ to organised crime…

    Well said, Mr Crook.

  12. I understand that, in France (and possibly other European countries), fly tippers are not only prosecuted, but have the vehicles used, seized as they were being used in the committing of crime. All it would take is someone in authority in the UK to include Going Equipped on the charge sheet.

  13. Always remember the time I commented to my wife when we had left home early about someone overnight having left some black bags in a lay-by near us which I later heard about on the news was actually a dismembered body, minus the head which they never found

  14. @Penseivat – “have the vehicles used, seized”

    How is it fair or just to impose a bigger penalty merely because the crime was committed using a more expensive vehicle?

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