It’s a fairly strongly held one by someone who might well actually know:
US tax dollars paid for “gain-of-function” research that caused the “greatest pandemic our world has seen”, the former head of America’s national public health agency told Congress.
Dr Robert Redfield was director of the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention at the start of the pandemic and a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force.
He told a Congressional committee that “gain-of-function” research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been funded in part by the US government and that the virus “looked engineered”.
Dr Redfield also said his initial analysis that the pandemic resulted from a laboratory leak had been “squashed” early on.
The virologist said he was excluded from a phone call on the origins of the pandemic in February 2020 by Dr Anthony Fauci and others, because they “wanted a single narrative” and he had a “different view”.
So, what happens now?
Given Fauci’s ‘connectedness’, probably nothing.
So, what happens now?
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
The BBC report, which has since disappeared from the from page, is a masterpiece of muddying the waters:
His racism and sexism prevented him stopping this terrible disaster and left poor Fauci in the shit???
BiND – it surprised me to find out a lot of people can’t immediately tell that Dr Anthony Fauci is an evil little goblin who means you harm.
I mean, look at him. You don’t even need to know about his involvement in torturing beagles to death, his sins are written on his disturbing little smirking face.
Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution should have taught homo sapiens how to spot predators and monsters in human form. God knows, we’ve enough experience of them. But the Eloi are slow on the uptake.
If a lab outbreak has been the case, it won’t be admitted to. Period. Too much at stake for too many powerful people. maybe in 50+ years some historians might have another look at it.
As-is, the actual origin source of the Wu-Flu is, sadly enough, of only minor importance.
Because the response to the appearance of an infectuous nasty well above the usual yearly variation has proven to be inadequate, ineffective, and in quite a few cases bordering on insane.
And the case with Monkeypox has shown that TPTB still haven’t learned a bloody thing. And that one is actually hard to spread…
Will be fun when Mother Gaia shakes the dice and comes up with an Influenza variant close to the Spanish Flu of yore…
Or Ebola manages to jump out of Africa…
Or…
The only way to explain the demented response to WuFlu is to assume that Governments were complicit enough to have good reason to fear it was a lab leak.
@Grikath
maybe in 50+ years some historians might have another look at it
Good luck to them with that. Accepting it was a leak from a virus research program in Wuhan that was being paid for by US tax dollars it’s a given that all remaining hard evidence will have been routed out and destroyed long ago by both of the worlds superpowers.
Either way I do wonder about links between the market and the lab. Given the undisputed fact that they were researching coronavirus in animals making the jump to humans it seems very plausible that the lab would buy live animals from the market. It would have been a very cheap and convenient source.
Tim – one advantage of living in sunny Portugal is all those foreign cleavage sights which stimulate gain of function.
And not a huge leap of the imagination to wonder if the animals were sold back once no longer useful for the research.
I guess they’ve unleashed the lab leak theory to shift the blame onto the Chinese while stirring WW3. Much easier than tracking back to US DoD investment in gain of function research at UNC lab in 2013. Or in noting that the lethality of the jab exceeds that of the virus. Or that said DoD poured money into Pfizer and Moderna. There’s an underreported law suit against Pfraudsters using whistleblower Brook Jackson by Robert Barnes:
https://twitter.com/IamBrookJackson/status/1633611340307677184
Redfield: why has he turned? Is it the equivalent of providing King’s Evidence? Is he hoping that when the others are hanged he’ll be spared?
But surely the chances that the evil bastards will hang are vanishingly small.
Perhaps there’s evidence of his criminal behaviour while in charge of the CDC and he wants to paint himself in a good light before there are cloacal effluvium/rotating impeller coincidence event issues.
Very plausible indeed. Maybe it was just an accident.
Or we could invoke Occam’s razor. China develops the virus in partnership with the US (proven beyond reasonable doubt) then does everything possible to spread it worldwide (again beyond doubt when you compare the immediate restrictions on internal Chinese flights with the ongoing schedules to the rest of the world) in order to kneecap western economies, to enable the imposition by governments of previously unimaginable curbs on freedom and finally to provide an excuse for the radical changes in US election laws which were arguably instrumental in preventing the greatest perceived threat to the world order – Trump’s re-election.
From a globalist and particularly a Chinese perspective what’s not to like?
Minor technical hitch there, John. The Cunning Little Yellow Devils did exactly the same, but dialled up to eleventy.
Sorry I don’t get your point.
I wasn’t aware that the Chinese economy had been decimated like ours and as far as curtailing personal freedom is concerned they generally can’t get enough of it.
Anyway what they do in their own country is their business, my beef is what they have been instrumental in allowing to happen in mine.
I for one would rather they didn’t step in to prevent it…
It came from a lab. The FBI now admits it came from a lab. The only reasons there has been so much kickback against it coming from a lab was because Trump said it come from a lab. And because Fauci funded the research.
There is no evidence of this particular virus in nature and no ‘patient zero’ found who was the first infected. No trace of the virus in the thousands of samples taken in the wet market.
Two of the scientists involved with Fauci initially saying it came from a lab then rotating 180 to say it didn’t. CDC bloke in charge of covid policy, Dr. Renfield was not involved in the call. Strange…. Some weeks later, the two scientists recieve $9 million in funding from Fauci.
“it seems very plausible that the lab would buy live animals from the market. It would have been a very cheap and convenient source.”
Nope. They use mice that are genetically manipulated to express human surface proteïns in the relevant target tissues, and which are not supposed to survive outside the lab due to some, also engineered, deficiencies.
Of course… it does take a couple of days for them to die… And depending on what they carry the carcass may be contagious for a few days after…
But no.. the only animals brought in from the market in that lab were as a part of Lunch.
Does anybody believe they were doing secret “gain of function” research in a shady Chinese laboratory for our benefit?
Nominally? Yes.
Roads paved with best intentions does apply though. And intentions are easy to hijack by the less scrupulous.
A virus that kills only the old and sick, but spares the healthy, is a threat to civilisation as we know it.
Spare me.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-greatest-lie-told-during-covid
@Grikath
Nope. They use mice that are genetically manipulated to express human
Whilst they do use those modified mice for testing transmission to humans those probably aren’t the only animals they use. They were looking at coronavirus coming from the native animal population i.e. not just mice. Bats are one possibility. They are know to have been looking at bat coronavirus. There have been videos of WIV workers handling bats and some reports of them having been bitten. They might be real or they might be fake. Regardless, to carry out their research they would need to look at coronavirus currently in the animal population. Being able to buy some research animals at “lunch” prices has to be appealing, doubly so where it also leads to a free lunch.
Funny you should say that, Philip. This bloke extends the thought.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-greatest-lie-told-during-covid
Will be fun when Mother Gaia shakes the dice and comes up with an Influenza variant close to the Spanish Flu of yore…
Or Ebola manages to jump out of Africa…
Or…
You mean like the bird flu that is killing sea lions by the thousands in South America?
That means its now zoonotic and will shortly make the jump to humans.
Fun times coming… With any luck we’ll all be too busy dodging mushroom clouds to notice a little thing like the potentially worst flu since 1918
AndyF, true..
However.. That’s for the sampling of the natural coronavirus population and see what sticks. By necessity the viruses found were already out there in the wild. If one of them is the culprit for WuFlu, we’d have had a different location, or multiple cases of, Ground Zero.+
The experiments that are done to attune those viruses to humans, and thus make them dangerous beyond common sense, is done with those special mice. In a completely different, highly segregated and secure™ part of the lab if protocol is properly followed.
It is obvious to even the biggest fool that that lab is the most likely source and Ground Zero of the WuFlu pandemic, despite the tons of handwaving and denial.
And “engineered”, as far as taking a natural process and accellerating it thousandfold against a specific target is “engineering”.
There may have been mucking about with genetic manipulation of the virus, but as a tool to accelerate a trend in mutation, not because the people there knew how to “adjust” the virus to a specific, potentially nefarious, purpose **.
But it doesn’t take conspiracy theories, or even escaping animals to explain the Breach..
The people in such a lab are Healthy, and monitored, in more ways than one.
We know that even the first variants of the virus had a good chance to not make healthy people deathly ill. Flu, yes. On life support? Only a fraction..
Now.. Speculation.. Highly secret research. Someone has to take care of the onerous task of feeding/mucking out the mice. To exact protocol. You are on a Budget. You are also Chinese
(The last bit not really necessary, since any organisation that does Classified has those people, on those specs. But in this case the source is chinese, so we can be specific.)
You pick someone bright enough to follow Protocol, obedient/gullible enough to be a Safe Member of the Party, and who doesn’t Ask Questions and is Proud to Serve.
That person does not get told how utterly dangerous those mice are, and gets.. careless… Very human if you have to jump to insane hoops every day without being told/understanding exactly why those hoops are there. Happens daily everywhere.
“Li” catches the “Flu”, but being generally ruggedly Healthy, as animal caretakers generally are, is up and running again in a couple of days. Not enough to trigger the Alarms, and literally no-one is waiting for the Serious Consequences those Alarms imply.
As happens in Bureaucracies. Doubly so in authoritarian ones, like.. oh wait.. the Chinese..
And after all… Li is just mucking out the mice, it’s not as if (s)he’s important.
Of course, Li, or multiple Li’s, can, in this way, carry out any virus multiple times, until it sticks onto enough people that are not as ruggedly Healthy. After which.. weeeelll….
No conspiracy, nothing Nefarious, just human beings in a Bureaucratic Environment doing the low-key stupidities such an environment creates. With sometimes disastrous results, like in this case.
** By my knowledge, and as far as I’ve followed up on my original certificate of proficiency in this stuff over the years, we are still far away from James Bond/Evil Overlord designing of diseases.
Stumbling upon them as described above, yes. Pushing them towards a goal using rocks and bananas, yes. Designing them, no.
I fervently pray to all gods past, present, and future ( can’t be too careful here…) that I am not wrong in this, and that this state may last quite a while.
That shit is scary. Do not reccommend.
@Grikath – That is my speculative bet as well but I could never be as lucid and amusing as you were.
And yes, it’s not the disease but what they did that’s the most frightening part. UK COVID enquiry will brush more dirt under the carpet than ever before to ensure they don’t get found out. Look at the response to the Handycock messages where TPTB are still attempting to shoot the messenger on the mild stuff.
Having been to china the thing that struck me is that on the surface everything is shiny shiny but underneath it’s quite ramshackle in many places and that the chinese love to take shortcuts especially where money is involved. We’ve all seen pictures of the lab with dodgy fridges and freezers. There were also reports of animals being sold on the market by employees of the lab. Whether this was true or not I can well believe it’s true.
‘just human beings in a Bureaucratic Environment doing the low-key stupidities such an environment creates.’
As a former bureaucrat Grikath, you make me feel quite homesick.
The first case of Covid in the U.S. was discovered on January 21,2020.
A friend of mine with business contacts in China was told there were already bodies being piled up in their neighborhoods as early as November 2019.
Remember that any time you see Western scientists and administrators protecting the CCP’s narrative, and ask yourself why they’re doing it.
Bill Gates buying one and a half million BioNTech shares in September 2019 tells you that the virus was already out and about………