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Seems reaonably logical

Humans may have spread Covid to Wuhan market, say scientists

We have species which can all catch covid in the same place. We have covid n that place. There’s nothing in those two points which tells us which way the transmission went, is there?

That we don’t find covid in those other species anywhere else might tip the balance of our belief……

10 thoughts on “Seems reaonably logical”

  1. Whooo! Their science editor. Two GCSEs in art and drawing? And a budgerigar? Or was there another press release from that august branch of the CCP, the WHO?

  2. “Whooo! Their science editor. Two GCSEs in art and drawing? And a budgerigar?”

    At which point I knew if I clicked I’d find Sarah Knapton – the B&M funded DT has been useless throughout. The only question for a while now has been “Who funded it?”. And that all points west…

  3. No trace of Covid 19 was found at the wet market despite tens of thousands ( I believe I saw the number 30,000) of samples being taken, from the market itself or from the people who worked there.

  4. Even if it did come from the wet market, how did it get those peculiar little receptors that are oh, so good at snagging on and infecting DNA? Did it get those from the wet market or were they bio-engineered in a not-so-far-away laboratory specialising in just the sort of “viral upgrades” you need.

    Inquiring minds want to know*

    * – But not President Xi or the denizens of the Chinese Communist Party, for obvious reasons.

  5. CoVid cannot be spread or caught. it’s a disease. A disease is a set of symptoms. You cannot spread or catch a headache, sore throat, aching muscles, and runny nose for example.

    What can be spread or ‘caught’ is a virus, in this case one designated SARS Coronavirus 2.

    This conflation of virus and disease, demonstrates the ignorance and confusion surrounding this whole nonsense. For example: people “testing positive for CoVid” using the PCR Test. No they weren’t! They were testing positive for viral fragments. That does not mean disease is present. Thus we had a pandemic – in fact a testademic – of healthy people.

    And… just because a virus can be transmitted inter-species, usually does not result in it then being spread intra-species without it undergoing significant change in the new species. So Humans can be infected with the cowpox virus, but cannot transmit it to other Humans. For that reason it was used as the first Smallpox vaccine.

  6. Ummm JG… Got to stop you there…

    Coronaviruses are RNA viruses, their whole point is to not muck about with DNA and take over the existing production line in a cell directly.
    They leave the Library and translation lines well alone, avoiding a lot of built-in factchecking ( and Alarums…) in the process.

    The things also don’t latch on to DNA, but proteins. To which they’re usually pretty specific.
    The whole thing about the first variants is that they were actually pretty bad at that, with the progression up the greek alphabet them “rapidly” evolving/adapting to us as a host over the course of three years.
    “Rapidly” with extreme caution, because the spike is actually pretty conservative, but the generation cycle of the virus is measured in days, if not hours. You’re talking evolution over total generation amounts where you need exponents with two, possibly even three by now, digits to express them…

    That is all proper science/advanced chemistry. Ignoring this invokes the despaired exhortations of a certain fictional starship engineer.

    If we want to figure out whether it was the Lab, or Bad Luck, we’d have to check whether or not the alpha strain happily latches on to one or more of the special mouse breeds they used in that lab.
    Because the virus would have been pretty well adapted to the highly documented receptors they’re carrying. Very much like a fingerprint.
    And guess which important notes are under lock and key in a CCP vault missing…

    I’m firmly in the “It Came From The Lab” camp, but I do wish people at least get their basics right, or at least study up on them.
    It’s not as if Virology 101, or even 201, knowledge is esoteric or difficult to access. Neither is molecular genetics or cell biology 101. Nowadays it’s really trade-school level. Any proper lab techie is expected to know this stuff. There’s books with pictures, and wikipedia is mostly correct on the subjects.
    And to put it bluntly… People who quite obviously haven’t taken the effort to buff up on that necessary basic knowledge are not helping.

  7. @Grikath – I can’t even claim ignorance, As I well know the difference between DNA and RNA. You’re right to fisk me royally.

    Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

    In mitigation, I am most of the way through a delightful Pinot Noir, it being Good Friday an all.

  8. What this tells us is that the animals there (?raccoon dogs) caught the disease from humans, not vice versa, and some *other* agency created the human-infecting form of the disease. If it is true – the “may” means case not yet proven to high enough standards – then the “lab leak” theory gets tremendous support.
    Are any of the usual suspects demanding “reparations” from China for the destruction that it has unleashed on the world?

  9. @john77 – “Are any of the usual suspects demanding “reparations” from China”

    The inevitable consequence of identifying the true origin is that someone will be held responsible and expected to pay out a lot of money. Therefore, we cannot find out with confidence what happened. As long as those in power in China have a reasonable suspicion that they might have had an accidental escape, no proper investigation can be allowed. And without a proper investigation that suspicion can be neither confirmed nor refuted This is why air accident investigations try quite hard to avoid a blame culture and are quite good at fixing problems that cause accidents.

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