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This is terribly fun

Hungarians encouraged to report on neighbours raising trans children
New law lets people lodge a complaint against parents infringing their children’s right to “an identity appropriate to their sex at birth”

If parents are abusing a child then we want the neighbours to be telling on them. If parents are merely bringing up a child unconventionally but acceptably then we don’t.

So, at what point between Jimmy playing with dolls and chopping his knackers off do we move from unconventional to abuse?

15 thoughts on “This is terribly fun”

  1. What Steve said. Also, just why do we want neighbours informing on child abuse when the social services are reluctant to do anything about it, as poor little Finley Biden could tell you?

  2. As recently as the late 1990s I asked a colleague who was a qualified social worker what would happen if social services got to know of a family who were raising a child to be the wrong gender: if, say, a boy was given a girl’s name and was put in dresses, etc.

    Her answer was that the child would be placed in local authority care.

  3. Hungary strikes me as being quite a well run place.

    I was last there in 2014 and Budapest was absolutely full of Chinese students.

  4. Julia, his name’s Joe, not Finley. Sorry for making a joke out of the name error, but “poor little…” was irresistible.

  5. If parents are abusing a child then we want the neighbours to be telling on them. If parents are merely bringing up a child unconventionally but acceptably then we don’t.

    At what point does ratting out one’s neighbors move to unacceptable? I think we’d all agree that informing the authorities of a neighbor who is threatening you and everybody else on the block is necessary while informing the authorities that your neighbor isn’t following the state’s green or covid protocols is a bad thing.

  6. “At what point does ratting out one’s neighbors move to unacceptable?”

    In my part of Hungary, it is expected to rat out your neighbours to the council about the length of your garden’s grass.

  7. This is such a slippery slope. Anything being done physically to a child (hormone replacement therapy or surgery) should result in prison time, but anything left up to interpretation is not something you want the government involved with. You’ll end up with something much worse than a number of kids growing up maladjusted.

    If someone’s running a batshit crazy household, but not physically harming their kids, just don’t send your kids over there, problem solved.

  8. They schools and medical establishment pushing trans agenda means that for some parents it’s a nightmare conveyor belt system they can’t get off, the media only reports about the happy vegan cat trans cheerleaders though.
    Unhappy parents and detransitioners are not talked about as they upset the narrative, bring up ROTS (rapid onset transgender syndrome) and a visit from social services and maybe the police about your abusive behaviour is on the cards

  9. “In my part of Hungary, it is expected to rat out your neighbours to the council about the length of your garden’s grass.”

    Just like in select parts of the US and UK then… 😉

  10. I know some of the US ‘communities’ can have pernickety rules*, but I’ve never even heard of anyone in the UK being ‘reported’ (who to?) for the length of the grass on their lawn, though if it’s really bad you might be subjected to synchronised tutting from the neighbours. Are you sure you’re not confusing us with the Krauts?

    * Visiting (Brit) friends in Phoenix in a very nice gated community, I noticed they were running the tumble drier, though it was 100°+ outside. I asked why they didn’t just put the drying out on a clothes line for a couple of minutes. “Forbidden” was the reply.

  11. @ Grikath
    In Britain, if the neighbours *really* object to the state of one’s garden they’ll tell you – the person who would report it to the council is more common in pantomines or cartoons than in real life.

  12. I think you’ve got it, Dhdhfbf.

    It occurs to me that, in a place like Hungary, they’d have some suitable laws (hanging?) to deal with those mutilating a child, so you wouldn’t need special laws to deal with ordinary child abuse. The local busybodies’d rat on them anyway.

    The major difference from us is that the police etc would probably do something about it.

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