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The widower of a BBC presenter who died due to complications from the Covid-19 vaccination said he’s been left with “no alternative” but to take legal action against AstraZeneca.

Lisa Shaw, who worked for BBC Radio Newcastle, died a week after her first jab in May 2021.

A coroner ruled in August 2021 that the 44-year-old had died from a “vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia”, a rare condition linked to the vaccination.

Gareth Eve, her widower, said he had been trying to “engage with the government, MPs and three prime ministers” and no one had “reached out” in return.

Haven’t they legal immunity?

The vaccine compensation scheme exists for this very reason?

21 thoughts on “Umm, well”

  1. Yes, but you can always find a solicitor who is willing to take this on, regardless of the chance of winning.

    Sometimes, even one who doesn’t don women’s clothing to batter mammals to death in his garden…

  2. I believe some lawyers are trying to use consumer protection legislation to bring cases against the pharmaceutical companies. Possibly no immunity if they were economical with the actualite of their test results perhaps……..

    Which leads me to this: https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/covid-19-vaccine-trials-cannot-tell-us-if-they-will-save-lives/
    “None of the current trials are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospitalisations, intensive care use, or deaths”. – BMJ October 2020.

    Yet BloJob, Whitty, Vallance and Handcock told us…..

  3. @ Adolff
    Was the vaccine dose “fit for purpose”? Or was it a defective/contaminated sample?
    Looks like “Greenmail”, with AZ having to prove a negative and then find the plaintiff unable to reimburse their legal costs or settle an unjustified claim out of court.

  4. The EUA was a licence to print money. Privatised profit, socialised losses.
    Is this drug safe? Who cares?
    Does this drug work? That’s not relevant when it’s compulsory.

  5. But they don’t want money, they just want the truth to come out. That’s why they’ve gone to ambulance-chasers who think (with some justification) that, if they make enough trouble, they’ll be bought off.

  6. @Tim

    The vaccine compensation scheme exists for this very reason?

    Oh yes, and you can certainly trust them to pay out.

    Gareth Eve, her widower, said he had been trying to “engage with the government” and no one had “reached out” in return.

    Oh.

  7. @JUlia

    Yes, but you can always find a solicitor who is willing to take this on, regardless of the chance of winning.

    Far better just to accept what the government and giant pharmaceutical companies which have been multiply found over many decades to have killed hundreds of thousands of people through negligence and fraud, and never try to push anything. Know your place, that kind of vibe.

  8. This is generally a blog written and read by people with a deep scepticism of government, media, and corporate lies and bullshit.

    It’s very odd that that scepticism has for many of us largely evaporated in respect of Covid and its ‘vaccines’, despite the absurd nature of their speedy introduction (they are still not fully licensed, AFAIK) and their worldwide enforced/semi-enforced use.

    Leaving to one side the Yellow Card system, which the UK government set up at significant cost precisely to identify safety signals in new vaccines, and which (like the US’s comparable VAERS system) shows thousands of deaths from the mRNA jabs, and which the government now, illogically, completely ignores, ask yourself this question:

    Death rates are rising, which shouldn’t be happening after a pandemic has burned through a lot of ‘dry tinder’. So something is going on.

    The government (like all governments) says it’s not the jabs – it says the jabs are safe, and that the vaccine sceptics are wrong.

    The government (like all governments) has a list of who has died in the last two years, and knows the vaccine status of pretty much every one of them.

    The government (like all governments) has been asked to make this data public, and yet it (like all governments) refuses to do so.

    If the goverment is telling the truth, this would be the simplest, and most obvious, way to prove the sceptics wrong – if the government is telling the truth it would show no increase in death rates among the vaccinated.

    Why won’t it release this data? Why – in fact – isn’t it taking out full page ads in all the papers showing the data?

    The UK government itself admits that 30 people have been killed by the jabs (see link below).

    Does anyone here believe for one moment:

    i) that the government is not setting the proof bar extremely high

    ii) that it is not therefore obvious that very more than 30 people have been killed by the jabs?

    The guy in this case – his wife died, the coroner recorded the fact, his family was not compensated. So that’s 31 🙂

    Can anyone here name any other medical intervention which was

    – in many cases mandated and in all cases heavily propagandised, at a cost of billions

    – via almost complete control of social media

    – with the obvious compliance of all the mainstream media

    – which clearly doesn’t work as per the many lies told about its efficacy

    – which is acknowledged to have killed at least 30 people

    – and in respect of which everyone just shrugs and says, ‘Ah fuck it, I trust the government?’

    https://www.researchprofessionalnews.com/rr-news-uk-politics-2023-3-uk-pays-out-nearly-4m-in-covid-19-vaccine-damages/

    Those who care to read more widely than The Guardian or The Telegraph might like to visit the following substacks

    https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/
    https://metatron.substack.com/
    https://jackanapes.substack.com/
    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/
    https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/
    https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/
    https://igorchudov.substack.com/

  9. How does somebody take away my right to sue the supplier of useless goods? Who gave the government the right to make a deal with a pharma company to absolve them of responsibility without taking on that responsibility? And at a level to be determined in a court of law, not some bureaucratic outfit charged with reducing expenditure. If the vaccine compensation scheme was working as expected (and not as designed) a lot of people would be getting paid out a lot more money. As it is you need to find a brave doctor, a pathologist and maybe a coroner too who will help you. It isn’t working, because the fools who OK’d this vaccine didn’t do their due diligence and now they won’t discuss it let alone admit it.

  10. I sneeze in threes

    Is it not that you can sue them but any compo is underwritten by the government (i.e. us suckers).

  11. Peerages for Andrew Bridgen (in particular), Christopher Chope and Esther McVey for services to the country (well, not so much the country, but for the poor fools who were conned, fooled, pressured, hoodwinked, coerced, mandated, into taking an experimental drug therapy and have / are / will continue to, pay the cost).

    At least they have stood up and asked questions, unlike my spineless party hack, who states “I will hold the government to account” when it’s inconsequential, votes in favour of something he states he doesn’t support (fracking) when politically expedient and who wears a flack jacket on his webpage – The only war that xxxx has fought has been the inch war.

  12. Death rates are rising because we went to a lot of effort to postpone people dying. People are dying this year who “should” have died last year, along with the people who “should” be dying this year. So this year’s death count is higher than last year’s death count because this year’s count includes those that “should” have died last year.

    We are also going to see a bulge in deaths coming soon as the post-WW2 birth bulge starts dying off in significant numbers. My Mum’s husband, born 1940, died recently and will be one of the last “normal” numbers. When my parents and their siblings, born 1945-1955, start dying the numbers will rocket. Be primed for the meeja asserting “Government killing off oldies!111!!!”.

  13. “we went to a lot of effort to postpone people dying.” I must have missed that. It seems altogether more likely that a harsh triage led to doctors bumping off lots of frail codgers in the hospitals and nursing homes.

    But they were only obeying orders.

  14. The NHS claims that excess deaths now (which are continuing) are due to a lot of folks not getting a benefit or a diagnosis from the NHS because it was busy with covid. It’s bollocks, of course. Excess deaths should have been nil or negative because of covid deaths of old people brought forward by the pandemic. Anyhow, all we protesters want is, at least at first, proper investigation of deaths. Proper statistics, so we can sort deaths by both age and cause. Proper autopsies with the histological tests which can sort actual covid sequelae from vaccine damage by the presence or absence of antibodies to the nucleus of the virus as opposed to merely the spike protein.

    We don’t need to argue here with incomplete facts. Give us the data or appear to be covering your arse, NHS.

  15. @Addolff quotes BMJ – “None of the current trials are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospitalisations, intensive care use, or deaths”

    That’s odd, because https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04516746 shows that one of the AstraZenica trials which was running at the time that was published was designed to and did detect such outcomes.

  16. Interested

    I think that this is a slightly unusual case. Many denizens of this blog are of an age ( or professional travellers ) where the vaccines seemed like the “right thing” to do.

    Now I refused to have one and am glad that I didn’t. I am immunocompromised enough without 5g powered nanobots made from baboon sperm coursing through my veins.

    Anyone under 50 who had it is a fool. People who took them for frivolous reasons ( eg to go on holiday ) have my pity ( formerly contempt, but I discovered too many close mates who did it ).

    If anyone should be sued it is HMGovernment for licensing and pushing this poison.

  17. For the UK there was a clarification awhile back that immunity didn’t mean the vaccine manufacturers couldn’t be sued, but that any payouts would be met by the taxpayer not the manufacturer. By all accounts the vaccine compensation schemes in many places have been very slow and reluctant to pay out as they don’t want to highlight the claims. In one case locally someone developed a extremely rare neurological condition that is a known side effect of the vaccines 3 weeks after being vaccinated and the compensation panel said it could just be a coincidence and denied his claim. After some publicity they eventually relented.

  18. @jgh

    ‘Death rates are rising because we went to a lot of effort to postpone people dying.’

    Did we? How? if you mean shutting down the hospitals how does that explain Aus/NZ death rates at something like 100 year highs, given that all they did was shut their borders and ‘live normally’?

    ‘People are dying this year who “should” have died last year, along with the people who “should” be dying this year. So this year’s death count is higher than last year’s death count because this year’s count includes those that “should” have died last year.’

    Ha ha ha.

    This is all going to wear very thin very quick for a lot of people, I fear.

    @Otto

    Yes, that describes my position, minus the additional health issues. I didn’t have it because it was very obvious from the Diamond Princess on that it was not necessary for a fit man of my age – and that was without any knowledge of the side effects. I know many people who did ‘to travel’, the fucking idiots.

  19. Interested

    I too was much relieved by the Diamond Princess outcome.
    With what as going round at that time was clearly something it would be good to avoid, but the odds were very good for folk in good health.
    But the bloody virus mutates; while the **trend** is apparently towards more infectivity and less damage, that’s a trend, not a given. So it was indeed possible that the variant raging through wherever one lived at the time was more dangerous than the DP variant.

    It would have ben helpful if the “authorities” had publicized ongoing death rates and ongoing hospitalization rates rather than “cases”. It would also have been helpful had selfsame authorities treated the infection with the respect it was due, which was not very much at all.

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