That sentiment, though, comes with a time limit. XR has told the government that if, by 5pm tomorrow, it does not meet two key demands — ending all funding for fossil fuel and creating a new “emergency citizens’ assembly” to lead climate solutions — it will “unquit” its tactics of direct action.
That business idea is looking more reasonable. Transits, full of baseball bats available to rent, cruising likely areas of such direct action.
We could even have standard and premium – premium being the aluminium scandium bats, the standard wooden. The joy of the Al/Sc being that as they’re lighter you can get a higher speed at the contact point more easily.
So, who’s got the capital for this?
Actually, the way to do this is to get the one van, the one collection of 50 second hand bats and film the attempt to hire them out as and when it’s possible to intersect with one of the demos – then set up a Go Fund Me.
Make a fortune.
Rob Callender, another XR spokesman, said: “Within three months, Extinction Rebellion will have designed a plan for the greatest acts of civil disobedience in this country’s history.”
We’ve got 3 months to make this happen. Who’s with me?
We have a citizens’ assembly – it’s called Parliament.
And what business is it of them what/who I invest in?
That sentiment, though, comes with a time limit. XR has told the government that if, by 5pm tomorrow, it does not meet two key demands — ending all funding for fossil fuel and creating a new “emergency citizens’ assembly” to lead climate solutions — it will “unquit” its tactics of direct action.
If only we employed some sort of government agency or department to arrest and imprison people who make terrorist threats against our critical national infrastructure.
No correlation with their increased “threats” and the nice Spring weather coming along?
Give these ‘activists’, XR, ALF, JSO et al until 5pm tomorrow to cease and desist their harassment and disruption of ordinary peoples lives.
If they do not:
Find out where they live.
Harass them.
Trash their property.
They started it right?
Some of those newly arrived Albanian lads look bit handy. I’m sure they could do a decent job, cash in hand.
You jest, I think(!) but that can’t be far off. If an old geezer gets jail time for chopping down trees and dredging a river without permission and these terrorists get tea and biccies from Plod then Citizens Response to Action by Protesters can’t be far off.
And I’ve just thought of a name for our little group, that hopefully the whingers will use when they see the van pull up. I nominate a creative person to design a logo – Julia, are you there?
Being a penny pinching old bastard, I feel that the standard UK assault rifle would be quite adequate to handle the matter.
You Brits surely have plenty in stock. If you haven’t given them all to the Ukies.
How quickly do we think XR and everyone involved would be arrested and imprisoned if they were, say, Andrew Tait or Britain First?
As opposed to merely being Jontys and Arabellas who want to starve you to death.
People need to start walking around with a bottle of very hot chilli sauce in their pockets. If they see an XR protest starting, before plod arrives, they should pour some in the eyes of the protesters.
People also need to “confiscate” the phones of the protest supporters who are filming the event.
I like the way their website says that they “coexist with the London Marathon”. No, go on, Hugo and Arabella, pitch in with fists flying; what can be more important than saving the entire planet?
Do you remember when people took up arms against the state over what sort of flag should fly over a tiny little corner of the E.U.? They murdered children, assassinated senior politicians, bombed the Prime Minister, starved themselves to death, and had actual gun battles with the army.
When XR do these things, I’ll take them seriously. So far, despite the nuisance value (and yes, it probably does deserve a bloody good hiding) I can’t see that it’s anything more than part of the festival-goer’s annual season. XR, Animal Rebellion, WOMAD, Glasto….
When XR do these things, I’ll take them seriously
But XR doesn’t need to do these things. They’ve got the British government doing things to you, with menaces.
These clowns just outsource their violence to a willing police force.
If you are held prisoner by one of their “non-violent” protests, just you try and escape. The police will soon intervene with force.
It’s high time we got all cable street on these modern day fascist cunts.
The problem is that most of the places they cause trouble are full of soy boys. You’re not going to get much resistance from the sort of weeds in Oxford, Bristol, Cambridge and London who are studying history or working in some structural racism quango.
And while Deanos and Gammons could deal with them, if it’s only in the Socialist Republics far from them, they’re not going to get too animated.
XR and their ilk keep providing evidence that they are terrorists. Committing criminal acts for a political purpose is terrorism.
“People also need to “confiscate” the phones of the protest supporters who are filming the event”
Not just their supporters – all the XR protesters involved. But don’t just stop at phones – remove ANYTHING they have (or are wearing) which needs fossil fuels to make. Let’s see how keen they are to protest when stark naked, with no phones to organise, and no petrol or diesel powered vehicles & generators to travel in and provide food and drinks, while they fuck everybody else’s lives up…
“We could even have standard and premium – premium being the aluminium scandium bats, the standard wooden. The joy of the Al/Sc being that as they’re lighter you can get a higher speed at the contact point more easily.”
Sorry, Tim. You got them the wrong way around..
The alu bats are faster, but have far less impact than the heavier wooden ones..
When in armour we re-enactors use the alu bats to make the loud, impressive noises for the public. We use the wooden ones to ..”weather”… new armour and to test for safety..
The wood should be the Premium option, if alone for the satisfying fact that you’re …educating.. the annoying Gaia-ists with a solid piece of Gaia…
You know who used to sell the Sc to the bat makers, right? So they must be better, QED.
Better at hitting light balls over a field? Sure.
Better at making an impression on the nuts of nutters? Debatable….
We must do a thorough test. For Science!!
What do they wear on their feet?
Bits of dead animal? Or bits of petroleum?
Anyway, read Thomas Gold, and we have never used “fossil” fuels, so job done.
On a similar topic, the US Navy took little interest in the Somalian pirates, until some clever entrepreneur announced he was organising “blast-a-pirate” holiday tours. Innocent looking ship, pirates approach, blood thirsty US tourists then open up on them with automatic weapons. Good fun for all.
Suddenly, the US Navy took an interest.
So perhaps we need exactly the type of initiative our host suggests. Perhaps bikey chapters would like to start nut-cracking competitions? One or two of them,and the ecoloons would learn better, and the plods might actually wake up and start doing their job. Unlikely, I know.
Of course, if the eco-loons don’t learn, then the problem will soon solve itself.
And the chapter lodges (longhouses?) would be so much better decorated!
Go for the knee caps. They won’t return in a hurry.
I’m curious if there is clear delineation as to what reasonable force is.
Say I’m well-trained in martial arts, can appraise my enemy, and can confidently shout a warning, final warning, then smack chop or destroy, then I’m cool on my understanding of reasonable force appropriate to the threat.
But I’m not, the only gradations of force i know are ‘run away’ and RCP 8.5 (rapid concentrated punching 8.5 times) all out.
Would a magistrate convict because this 60yo was unskilled at grades of combat and one would not reasonably expect reasonable force as applied by this member of the public versus force applied by a trained police office to be the same.
If a yobbo had glued themselves to the road, is it reasonable force to wrap my tow-rope around them and drive off? As a reasonable speed, of course.
@Bongo
The definition of reasoable force is effectively that applied by the jury at your trial
Just make sure the trial takes place within the M25 and I am sure you will get a suitably relaxed defintion of what is reasonable in this context
“ If a yobbo had glued themselves to the road, is it reasonable force to wrap my tow-rope around them and drive off? As a reasonable speed, of course.”
Those pictures of French policeman ripping protesters’ glued hands off the road were amazing. The look on protesters’ faces went from outrage that they dared to do that to agony as the pain set in. Priceless.
Alu bats versus wood?
There was a Paddy in a North London pub one night volubly holding forth on behalf of the Republican cause. That was around the time of the Hyde Park unpleasantness. When he eventually left he walked into a foot & half of scaffold pole across the teeth. Having seen the result of the field test, I’d suggest you reappraise.
It seems that XR were deterred by persistent rain from their terror campaign. It would be tough for them to conclude, from empirical evidence, that their total belief in global warming and climate change were bullshit