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China is banning exports of gallium and germanium, rare earth metals used to make advanced semiconductors needed to train AI models.

Sigh.

#Although as it’s in a Billy Hague column it has the advantage of only being wrong.

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Mohave Greenie
Mohave Greenie
2 years ago

Neither gallium nor germanium are used in huge quantities in the semiconductor industry. Gallium is used in gallium arsenide (GaAs) and gallium nitride (GaN) semiconductors. These are used for radio frequency components in the cell phone industry. GaN is also used in high speed switching power supplies, usually as a thin layer on a silicon carbide substrate. It is also used for LED light bulbs.

Germanium is used mainly in silicon germanium high speed signal processing chips. It is used as a microscopically thin layer on silicon wafers, so the amount of germanium used is very small.

The main industrial bottleneck for these applications is that they need to be extremely pure. There are a very limited number of suppliers for semiconductor grade materials. It is also difficult to set up a high purity process overnight.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

I expect all these brilliant chemists john77 reckons the UK’s universities harbour, can help us there.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

If they’re not all Chinese of course.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

Incidentally: William Hague – PPE Oxford.
Didn’t really need to look it up, did I?

Bongo
Bongo
2 years ago

They’re rare but they aren’t rare earths. Must have confused Hague who is short but he ain’t shortbread.

Tractor Gent
Tractor Gent
2 years ago

As BiS alludes, Hague’s tenuous acquaintance with science probably dates to the hated ‘stinks’ classes at whatever seat of buggering is his almer mater.

Tim the Coder
Tim the Coder
2 years ago

Ironically, the major source of germanium is…….coal ash.

No coal-burning power stations, no germanium.
It’s one reason why China is such an important source nowadays.

And that’s kindly passing over the foolish lad’s AI reference.

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

@TtC There’s cubic miles of that dumped around the UK.

PJF
PJF
2 years ago
bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

“We must kill off large electric SUVs and make fewer private car journeys to cut demand on critical metals,”
I love this we must stuff. Fuck off in the electric car you just rode in on seems the appropriate response.

Boganboy
Boganboy
2 years ago

BiS. You are reminding me of the useless shit light bulbs they produce these days.

I might as well add that such very limited experience as I’ve had with AI doesn’t convince me that it’s about to take over the world just yet.

Bloke in Wales
Bloke in Wales
2 years ago

Fuck off in the electric car you just rode in on seems the appropriate response.

Doubt they’d get very far. If they rode in on an milk float they probably used up most of its range getting here.

AndyF
AndyF
2 years ago

Does he get a prize for the highest number of inaccurate facts in a short sentence?

Grikath
Grikath
2 years ago

“I shall now leczure you on ze need to abandon your vehicle!. But firzt! Do you have ze socket available so I can charze my ecologically zustainable transport zat rubs ze Ego ?”

Remember kids.. Python was satire, not a manual… 😉

bloke in spain
bloke in spain
2 years ago

“I shall now leczure you on ze need to abandon your vehicle!. But firzt! Do you have ze socket available so I can charze my ecologically zustainable transport zat rubs ze Ego ?”
Spain has (or at least has until Monday morning, por favor Dio!) much the same electric car ambitions as the UK. I’m looking at where they took the three storey building opposite me down to rebuild as an apartment block. There’s a bunch of cables hanging from rope across the site. Various diameters from an inch & a half down to domestic 2.5mm. That’s how much of Spain’s cities & towns are wired up. Cables haphazardly stapled to the walls of buildings. Dwellings with only 6 Amps of supply are common. Power cuts are monotonously regular. How they think that mess will take the load of charging even a single car beats me.

HexChopper
HexChopper
2 years ago

BiS,

It won’t take the load. That’s the point. No cars for the peasants. That is the policy aim.

UK grid won’t cope either, one electric car in the street is not a problem, every car in the street charging overnight……

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