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We knew this, right?

Eating red meat and cheese does not increase the chance of an early death, according to a landmark study.

The findings come after widespread claims by nutritionists that meat and dairy products increase the risk of heart attacks and harm long-term health.

But a global study involving almost 150,000 people, the first of its kind, found the healthiest diet can include red meat and whole fats from animal sources.

Aren’t the food wowsers going to be pissed.

18 thoughts on “We knew this, right?”

  1. Bloke in North Dorset

    It’s not often I agree wholeheartedly with Steve.

    The food fascists have had a sort of victory with me. I used to have a soft drink after I’d done my afternoon stretches and session on my x trainer, but since they changed all the formulas I find them disgusting so stopped. I now have a beer instead.

  2. Yes!!! I also agree wholeheartedly with you all.

    Even my Rubbish Bin Stew tastes nice with plenty of meat and a large slice of cheese on top.

  3. If meat (and raw meat) and dairy were so bad for health, Homo sapiens, and his relatives would have died out long, long ago. The development of Homo sapiens as top of the heap is due to him including more and more meat into his diet instead of plants.

  4. Nearly sixty years ago, before the food fascism took off, I was given a diet sheet by an adminstrator (I think he wasThe Administrator) of the Radcliffe Infirmary in Oxford. It promoted a healthy low-ish calorie diet, most of which I adopted (i.e. I substituted equivalent items that tasted better, to me, in places). The food fascists think that I should be dead by now# because I didn’t switch to their recommended diets when they introduced them – on the contrary I am not only alive but still indulging in competitive sport (not brilliantly, but …).
    # Their forecasts of increased mortality from eating red meat and sausagesbutter instead of soya spread, white bread instead of wholemeal, drinking moderate amounts of alcohol add up to more than 100% for a middle-aged male and I’ve now got a bus pass (I can’t remember when I last used it, it’s simpler and often quicker to walk) so I deemed to be past middle-age.

  5. Saw an interesting thing: exceptional longevity is largely due to:
    1. Poor birth records
    2. Pension fraud

    So all that puff about the ‘Mediterranean Diet’ being good for you is really just an observation that southern Italian families are prone to keep claiming Grandpa’s pension long after the burial.

    Not that I’m opposed to the Merditerranean diet, olives and tomatoes have their place I agree; floating in martinis and blended with gin/worcester sauce, respectively.

  6. @TtheC: I’ve seen the occasional suggestion that a purportedly humungously old woman will often be the daughter of the claimed codger. After all, how many of us could at a glance distinguish a 90 year old from a 110 year old?

  7. I don’t believe any study or research (on it’s own), even if it agrees with my prejudices or beliefs.

    In the meantime I’ll do what the fuck I like regardless of lemon-sucking bansturbators

  8. I do sometimes eat a Mediterranean diet. But I’m far from keen on it. Far too greasy, they cook their meat to death & boil the vegetables to a pulp. Oh & over half the meat’s pig or “pig products”. Like the continental breakfast the “Mediterranean Diet” is only to be found in the UK & rip-off Mediterranean resort hotels.

  9. That’s quite a lot of ‘don’t tell me what to do’ retorts right there.

    Clearly, identifying and acknowledging the human species-appropriate diet – red meat and saturated fat – is not the same as saying that you, as an adult, cannot instead choose to exist on a diet of chip-butties and cake; with all its consequences.

  10. How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat

    The sugar industry paid scientists in the 1960s to play down the link between sugar and heart disease and promote saturated fat as the culprit instead, newly released historical documents show.

    The internal sugar industry documents, recently discovered by a researcher at the University of California, San Francisco, and published Monday in JAMA Internal Medicine, suggest that five decades of research into the role of nutrition and heart disease, including many of today’s dietary recommendations, may have been largely shaped by the sugar industry.

    “They were able to derail the discussion about sugar for decades,” said Stanton Glantz, a professor of medicine at U.C.S.F. and an author of the JAMA Internal Medicine paper.

    The documents show that a trade group called the Sugar Research Foundation, known today as the Sugar Association, paid three Harvard scientists the equivalent of about $50,000 in today’s dollars to publish a 1967 review of research on sugar, fat and heart disease. The studies used in the review were handpicked by the sugar group, and the article, which was published in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine, minimized the link between sugar and heart health and cast aspersions on the role of saturated fat.

    source: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html

  11. and sausagesbutter instead of soya spread

    I am 1000% in favour of any diet which includes sausagesbutter, which sounds awesome.

  12. @ MC
    It is my new marketing name for the lard (or dripping if I am grilling beef sausages) that I get when I allow the grill-pan to cool after lifting out my sausages to eat. 🙂
    I definitely prefer dripping to butter on baked potatoes – soya is yukky

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