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Wowsers are seriously wowsing here

Scores of hospitals are giving patients meat cured with chemicals that scientists and food safety experts increasingly fear may cause cancer.

Sixty-one NHS trusts in England are serving meat in their hospitals that may contain nitrates or nitrites despite growing evidence internationally implicating them in the development of cancer.

Yes, they want to ban bacon and ham from hospital meals.

There is particular concern about nitrites, which are often found in bacon and ham and are used to give bacon its pink colour and also as a preservative. Some scientists and MPs have urged the government to ban them from being used in food preparation.

Yep.

39 thoughts on “Wowsers are seriously wowsing here”

  1. ‘we considered the incidence of liver tumours in rodents as the most critical health effect’

    It doesn’t seem as though there’s any need to panic just yet. Except about the Remainers pushing yet another set of EU regs down your throats.

  2. After CAMRA, we now have CAMRB:
    Campaign for Real Botulism

    It’s not as if those preservatives are doing anything useful…

  3. After the Covid debacle it’s astonishing that anyone pays a blind bit of notice to announcements by the quacks.

    They lied and lied to us. Those who weren’t lying were too ignorant or dim to get things right. No doubt more understood what was happening than were prepared to speak out, being (for understandable reasons) cowardly.

    Mind you in my several stays in hospital I have never experience being served bacon. Pity. God’s greatest gifts to the human race: bacon and beer.

  4. Since meat has been cured with ‘chemicals’ for thousands of years, it’s amazing we are still here. In fact without those ‘chemicals’ to preserve meat, fruit and vegetables through the Winter months, we wouldn’t be here.

    It is high time that the scientist-expert clerisy be burnt at the stake.

  5. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    Pork sausages will be affected as well. War on pork? I wonder which privileged section of society that could possibly be coming from?

  6. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and is apparently approaching the status of the best source of nutrition. It would be cheaper for the NHS after all.

  7. As with the recent aspartame nonsense (Drinking the equivilent of 1750 cans of Diet Coke a day can cause cancer. Fuck me, if you’re drinking 1750 cans of Diet Coke a day you’re going to die of something and PDQ).

    p.s. Which special interest group is pushing this pile of nonsense? WHO, Vegans, Vegetarians, Climate change nutters,cancer research grant recipients or ropers?

    Oh, report by Professor Christopher Elliot, amongst other things, a member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences………..

  8. Addolff

    As with the recent aspartame nonsense (Drinking the equivalent of 1750 cans of Diet Coke a day can cause cancer. Fuck me, if you’re drinking 1750 cans of Diet Coke a day you’re going to die of something and PDQ).

    That genuinely did make me fall off my chair! Quite brilliant…

  9. Following on from Dearieme’s comments ,during my last stay in hospital, I was presented with glossy menu brochures to choose what I wanted to eat. There were some restrictions, though. The “all-day breakfast” was not available for breakfast…

  10. Addolff – again on the money

    WHO, Vegans, Vegetarians, Climate change nutters,cancer research grant recipients or ropers?

    While I’m not phased by vegetarians all the other groups on this list (Adding in any fashionable cause to the ‘Grant recipients’ one), need to be severely curtailed and sanctioned as a matter of some urgency – I’d look at the establishment of Diplock courts and not permitting the likes of Sopay Joe and other ‘fashionista’ lawyers to participate in them.

  11. The “all-day breakfast” was not available for breakfast…

    So it’s neither “breakfast” nor “all-day”!

  12. we considered the incidence of liver tumours in rodents as the most critical health effect

    There is a conspiracy amongst rodents to intentionally develop cancer whenever experimented on just to get their own back on humans.

  13. I believe that refers to the established fact that a cooked breakfast requested in an nhs hospital can take all day to arrive.

  14. Tucked away in the article: “Marks & Spencer and Morrisons supermarkets produce their own ranges of nitrite-free bacon, as does Finnebrogue, the Northern Irish food firm that commissioned the freedom of information trawl”

    So it’s a study suggesting nitrites be banned funded by someone with a vested interest in such a ban

  15. Some years ago I was in hospital for a blood test. After extracting the neccessary I was really woozy. The nurse advised me to “pop down to the canteen, they’re still serving, get a Full English”. Which I did. 🙂

  16. @Jim “ Its weird, the precautionary principle appears to apply to everything except covid vaccines……..”
    Bang on, except they were taking precautions against COVID which wasn’t a great risk except to a few but due to the excess of precaution required remaking society to avoid the small risk. Novel vaccines, and your health, were worth taking unknown risks to avoid a trivial risk elsewhere. Muppets.

  17. report by Professor Christopher Elliot, amongst other things, a member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences………..

    There are periodic shortages of pork in the PRC, perhaps the CCP is trying to free up supplies globally.

    After the Covid debacle it’s astonishing that anyone pays a blind bit of notice to announcements by the quacks.

    I didn’t pay much attention before, especially with regard to nutrition. Quacks and quacktivists have been interfering in nutrition for around 50 years, during which time we have collectively got fatter. Following their ‘correlation is causation’ logic it is clear the medical establishment is responsible for obesity.

  18. Its weird, the precautionary principle appears to apply to everything except covid vaccines…….

    And men in dresses.

  19. Many years ago when working for a company that made among other things sausages they looked at the healthy eating fads and decided to see if they could make a healthier sausage.
    One experiment was to take out the colouring, funnily enough when testing the resultant grey looking sausage the test panels feedback was no one would buy it looking like that.
    Overall it seemed that the healthier you make a sausage the less people wanted to eat it compared to their standard product

  20. There are 217 NHS Trusts in the UK. Ok 142 in England of which all were asked and 71 responded, 10 didn’t serve wrong meat and 61 said they did serve the guardian wrong stuff.
    Hooray! We have a natural experiment. Science yeah! Check the outcomes over the following 20 years. Knowledge and health gets advanced surely.

  21. An excellent idea Bongo. Checking the evidence. I wonder why they haven’t done this already?

  22. “There are periodic shortages of pork in the PRC”

    The wife of a Chinese academic visitor told my wife that British pork is much better than they get in China.

    For all I know the British pork in question might have been British, Danish, whatever. Still.

    She also remarked, bless her, that when she went to the supermarket she saw Italian rice, Indian rice, American rice but where was the British rice?

  23. Bloke in the Fourth Reich

    The most northerly rice production in the world is in Switzerland, where a local nut job grows a few packets a year just off the main Zurich-Milan Autostrada.

    It’s good stuff actually, when the crop doesn’t fail completely, like last year.

  24. Reading the above comments about rice, I thought “I wonder whether much rice was produced in Ottoman Europe ?”. Sure enough it was. I alighted on a not very well written essay on rice production in Bulgaria.

    Something made me stop and think though. The author states that rice became a staple in the Balkans ( I can believe that ) but it also ” would later be the case in western Europe, where in the 18th century rice would transform into a cheap dietary staple.” He also says that most rice in Western Europe in the 18thC came from slave produced plantations in the Carolinas.

    I’m not sure that either of these statements are true. Anyone know ?

  25. The Carolinas did ship a lot of rice. Major slave crop there. But Portugal grows substantial amounts of rice. Alcazar do Sal, Grandola, along the Alentejo coast (using the river water, obvs, not the sea). Can see it from the train to Lisbon/Faro.

  26. I rather needed to qualify the question. I thought Carolina rice was used to feed other slaves rather than Europe. I’d have thought that in Northern Europe, spuds and bread were still the staples.
    Not something that I’ve ever really looked at. I know that potatoes were quite late into Prussia and those parts.

  27. Otto, the tale I remember about Prussia is that Frederick the Great encouraged potato cultivation so that there’d be something to dig up and eat after the armies went through and looted and burned everything.

  28. I’d heard a similar story, Boges. Also that when he first tried to encourage potato cultuvation, the peasants ignored it. So Fred the Great started putting guards on plantations giving the folk the idea that there was something valuable growing there.

    Just looked it up in a trusty old school book. In the 1730s, South Carolina was shipping 50,000 barrels of rice a year.

  29. Hugh

    Swiss rice? They should stick to spaghetti

    They stopped growing spaghetti when they three harvest failures in a row.

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