A new modelling study suggests premature deaths – people dying before they reach 75 – will rise 6.5% this year due to the cost of living crisis, with 30 extra deaths per 100,000 people. The findings were published in the journal BMJ Public Health.
A fairly marginal effect we might think. One not really calculable. But, anyway, then we get the Potato Salad:
The failure to support real people through the impact of inflation – which has been and remains the policy of the government and most especially the Bank of England – is costing lives.
There should be no surprise about that. People living on the edge of existence – because that is where society has forced them to be – have died and will continue to die because of the inequality our society tolerates.
That is why I am working on the Taxing Wealth Report 2024. That inequality is a choice, and not a necessity.
The report isn’t measuring inequality. It’s measuring absolute standards of living. Poverty in the real sense, not relative. The effect would be the same if inequality held static but the economy shrank. It’s not inequality, is it?
Death is an objectively measurable, indisputable endpoint, and measured with almost total accuracy in developed countries. And a 6.5% rise in death rate in any category large enough to count (in this case the entire population) is most definitely a hyoumongously vast and gynormous increase.
The first order bullshit is in the fact that it’s modelling. The late Professor Brignall had plenty of accurates to say about modelling deaths.
The second order bullshit, is, I wonder what other possible causes of increased death they might not want to look at? Surely there is nothing in recent history, and absolutely not multiple policy decisions, that might be contributing to current excess mortality. So let’s generate some other cause to distract attention.
If the cause determined by our policy-based evidence making enables us to say we need more government intervention to ensure equalidee, then so much the better.
People are f*cking dying in droves under 75, and we all know why, don’t we children?
Difficult to blame the tories for the possible effects of social / medical / policy decisions that were / are supported unquestioningly by opposition parties, so the cost of living crisis (which is 110% the fault of the tories) is the ideal excuse.
Not really. The current “cost of living crisis” (more accurately, a “cost of government crisis”) has been caused in a large part by the government shutting down the economy for months on end, and running the money printers until they’re red hot. The only disagreement from the opposition parties was that the lockdown wasn’t hard or long enough, and the money printers weren’t being run for longer.
“Modeling study suggests” – what more do we need? Turn them loose to re-make the world!
Don’t mention the V word. I almost mentioned it but I think I got away with it.
The failure to support real people
Candidly, they are supporting surreal people.
@Jim
Are they though? I’ve not plotted the death stats from the ONS, but I’d be interested to see what picture they give.
The British Heart Foundation said in June:
Nearly 100,000 more deaths involving heart conditions and stroke than usual since pandemic began
So obviously, Tory Brexit is killing people.
@BIFR
‘The second order bullshit, is, I wonder what other possible causes of increased death they might not want to look at? Surely there is nothing in recent history, and absolutely not multiple policy decisions, that might be contributing to current excess mortality. So let’s generate some other cause to distract attention.’
Meanwhile, and obviously unrelatedly, let’s look at Professor Paul Offit – Professor of Vaccinology, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, a member of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee and formerly a member of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.
Offit has been a big proponent of the Covid jabs, natch, and is part of the crew which recently approved the latest ‘boosters’ for babies of six months and above.
But wait! What’s this?
Dr. Paul Offit on Why He Is Not Getting This Year’s COVID Booster, Says Myocarditis Could Last Longer Than Previously Thought
“I think I’m protected. I didn’t get last year’s bivalent vaccine. I’m not getting this year’s vaccine because I think I have high frequencies of T-cells…We’re going to find out about this vaccine over time. It is a novel strategy. We certainly were surprised by myocarditis and pericarditis and we’ll see whether or not over time when we’re 5 years into this, 10 years into this, 15 years into this, whether there’s any evidence of residual myocardial disease because the reason you have myocarditis is you’re making immune response to your own heart muscle…We’ll find out about that over time.”
So all of a sudden he admits he didn’t get ‘last year’s vivalent’ vaccine (from memory this was ‘tested’ on about a dozen mice before being pushed on the American people), and won’t be getting the new one (which he’s just approved for babies).
Why?
Well, he was ‘certainly surprised by myocarditis and pericarditis’; and he wants to wait ‘5 years into this, 10 years into this, 15 years into this, to see whether there’s any evidence of residual myocardial disease’.
For reference, myocarditis kills 50% of those who get it within five years.
Unlike Offit, lots of people weren’t surprised by the myocarditis – they were the doctors and scientists saying ‘HANG ON, THESE FUCKING JABS CAUSE MYOCARDITIS’ and being kicked off social media and traduced as ‘conspiracy theorists’ by everyone from Joe Biden to the smooth-brains who believe everything told to them by anyone in a government-approved white coat, bow tie and comedy specs.
Luckily the cunts who approved these jabs – and the cunts who mandated them, and the cunts who gave them* – made all this known to the recipients in order to gain their fully informed consent, and there’s in any case a well-worn path through the courts tro get legal redress for the survivors**.
Not an issue for me or mine – none of my immediate family took these things, on account of we weren’t born fucking yesterday, but as everyone from teenage soccer players to pilots to doctors to politicians to rappers to randoms found in the street drops dead suddenly, disconcertingly often live on telly, or at the controls of aircraft, I do fear for my fellow humans.
But Tim – by all means, keep chatting about Richard Fucking Murphy, that’s what really matters here.
*Oops sorry they didn’t – they said they were safe and effective and would stop transmission, sickness and death. (BTW do NOT look at the latest and ongoing excess death figures in the vaxxed.)
**Oops sorry there isn’t – all our governments have done deals with Pfizer et al which preclude litgation for jab injury or death.
“But Tim – by all means, keep chatting about Richard Fucking Murphy, that’s what really matters here.”
Indeed, I shall. Because:
a) this is my place
and
b) I have absolutely no competence whatsoever in discussing vaccines. The economics of them, yes, which I have done here. But the details of the medicine? Nope. Simply not something I know about. And you have heard of that bloke, Ricardo, yes? Do what you’re least bad at?
Offit? Quango that regulates euthanasia?
Half of all people die earlier than median life expectancy. 50%!!! It’s a scandal caused by the tories and Maggie Thatcher.
You have no expertise on anything until you read up about it.
@Bloke in Aberdeen,
People do die in droves before that , entirely random, 75 years old.
From a quick look at some graphs, at about roughly 3% per 5 year age bracket for most of our lives throughout Europe, with a peak at the very young ages, and the obvious Memento Mori at the other end.
And at 67 million peeps for the UK, 3% makes a fair number of bodies…
The size of the peak of the Younglings surprised me, given that we’ve mostly curbed the more lethal diseases, until I realised that it is exactly those diseases that masked the harsh fact that there’s a fair amount of “inborn/genetic defects” we can identify nowadays, but not treat, that will cut the life of a child short.
The degenerative diseases, sorry, syndromes. various flavours of cardiopulmonary abberations, and the agressive end of neoplasms give them a short shelf life.
And most of them, being weak to begin with, would not have survived the onslaught of the range of viruses we inoculate kids against nowadays.
After that it seems to be mostly Stupidity/Bad Luck, until wear and tear, and our Bad Habits, catch up with us around 50-ish catch up with us, and the chance of checking out rises again. Mostly the price for Oestrogen and providing offspring for the ladies, and being testosterone-fuelled powerhouses for the men.
And in the end… well.. something will either give out, or get us.
But yeah… droves..
“Are they though? I’ve not plotted the death stats from the ONS, but I’d be interested to see what picture they give.”
John Campbell goes through it pretty well here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6xBiyidQ9g
Joel Smalley and Norman Fenton on their substacks have plenty of analysis on the death stats.
@Interested
Our host discussing the antics and exhortations of the Tuberous One does have a purpose, and a good one at that..
For people like me, for whom economics is a Dark Art, as opposed to proper science, the articles highlighting the bullshit in the tuberous word porridge allows us to spot the relevant terms and concepts to look out for in the exhortations of the other politicians and “experts” of the same breed.
In clear, pithy language that we can show to others of our kind to, as you put it, educate ourselves in spotting the trap hiding in the Brilliant Ideas put forth as the Solution to Everything.
For which I know I do not have the expertise, nor the inclination or aptitude to get past the basics.
So yes… Richard Fucking Murphy, again…. please and thankyou.
Murphy and vaccines are not mutually exclusive topics for blogs.
He’s just had another COVID jab, voluntarily and without an invitation. I wonder if it will prevent him from being infected by the virus for the, what would it be, fifth or sixth time?
@Grikath
Our host discussing the antics and exhortations of the Tuberous One does have a purpose, and a good one at that.
It’s entirely up to Tim what he puts on his blog.
It’s entirely up to the commenters how they respond.
That we can say what we like is to Tim’s credit, of course.
My point is that circa ten years of 3x posts a day about a minor accountant from Ely and his batshit nonsense is… how can I put this?
Insane.
Yes, I think that’s the word.
Tim is mad.
He is obsessed with this fat nonentity and repeatedly exposing his undoubted idiocy.
It sort of made sense when Murphy had some power, or potential access to it via Corbyn’s mate – but one of Tim’s points is that no fucker reads anything he (Murphy) says any more.
And in any case – 10 years at 3x posts per day kind of makes the point.
My point is that a well-visited blog, written by a man with a fine and cynical mind, who has lots of readers, might be used for better purposes, such as investigating the greatest crime against humanity in modern history, rather than hiding behind ‘I don’t know anything about vaccines’.
OK, so find some stuff out then, it’s not hard to find. (At least until the new internet censorship laws come into effect.)
Admittedly, this is my obsession. We all have to have them I suppose.
Fine, it’s Tim’s blog, I come here to read the other stuff mostly, and to read the comments particularly.
I know from previous exchanges that you’re a vaccine true believer, so I don’t expect to convert you to my cause.
BF
Even with the vaccine he is still able to mount his hobby horse. But I think I counted at least 4 separate occasions and prior to testing being widely available there was another 2 or 3. You lose count of course and I have neither the time nor inclination to sift through that many posts.
It’s always good to see some of the old favourites back on the blog (Ironman the other day and now Interested) – hopefully Arnald is still being detained for his own safety and sadly, no sign of Mr. Ecks.
Re: Vaccines I’m no expert but I do think when people are attempting to shut down debate and getting people holding opposing views fired or shadowbanned, its fairly clear in that scenario who the Bad guys are, and it’s not those questioning the vaccine’s efficacy.
I can’t get enough ragging Ritchie posts.
And I don’t take the posts just as a reflection of him but he and his “ideas” represent the idiotic and ill conceived ideas of the people in control of this asylum.
And he does get taken seriously because of his one talent – being an exceptional con man. It truely takes some skill to blag yourself the title of professor from an apparently legitimate university, when you have next to no knowledge or experience, or nothing but his incoherent “reports” to pass off as legitimate research. With the title, some name dropping, complete censure of criticism, some red meat themes such as tax the rich and some green crap to target an audience and bang – the village idiot has disguised himself as a legitimate commentator.
There used to be a blog commenter who called himself Assistant Village Idiot. I thought it a brilliant name.
John Campbell covers more data analysis showing that if the entire population were dying at the same rate as the unvaccinated then 150K fewer people would have died in England in the year to May 2023:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO9DDganV4
Does 150,000 extra annual deaths count as ‘droves’? You decide…..
Given that the official figures show that about 194K people have died ‘of covid’ in England in total since this whole malarkey started it won’t be long before the covid vaccines may have killed more than the disease. Indeed that has probably already happened as there have been consistent excess deaths in the UK since mid 2021 (funny that….you’d expect negative excess deaths after a ‘serious pandemic’)
One wonders how long this will continue before it becomes so obvious even the masses begin to notice. We’re only 2 years into the mRNA ‘experiment’ – how many people out there are ticking time bombs, with serious cardiac problems they don’t know about, cancers growing undetected, immune deficiencies making them open to all manner of other infections, autoimmune issues causing them problems seemingly unrelated to covid or vaccines? When everyone can point to a ‘sudden death’ of someone not of the usual dying ages in their family and friends circle will the penny start to drop? And what will be the consequences of that penny dropping?
Jim @ 8.51, “And what will be the consequences of that penny dropping”?
A public inquiry will be held, asking soft questions only tenuously linked to the real issues, no one will be found guilty of having done anything which would be liable to end with them going to court / prison / the gallows and, rest assured, lessons will be learned…….
Why are there so many people acknowledging that there is a problem, that they don’t know what is causing it, but are 100% certain it isn’t the ‘shot’ and anyone saying it could be / let’s have a look at this, is mental.
Addolff
If you’ve personally committed/bought into something, it’s harder to accept you might be wrong?
Jim
Someone can check if they have time, but that source of Campbell’s doesn’t look right. For example, average deaths in England is not 334K, it’s more like 500K. Ie, that derived low number for “theoretical for unvaccinated” looks to fail the smell test? The unvaccinated don’t simply stop dying compared to normal. Which suggests (without checking the data) that the calculations of total unvaccinated might appear flawed? That’s already happened when the Government tried to demonstrate the opposite, ie that the vaccines were effective (where ONS data clearly underestimated the denominator number of unvaccinated), and which – once broadly corrected – reversed the message!
I could be wrong, I haven’t checked the sources, but it doesn’t smell right?
(Looks like someone has taken 2 ONS data sources – they have form! – and calculated something based off that?)
The ONS figures for the unvaccinated population were wrong because the ONS figure for the total population was wrong. Taking the size of the vaxed population (accurate) away from the total population (inaccurate) gave a smaller that true figure for the unvaxed population.
Where mortality is concerned, even the ONS is dealing with hard numbers so unless there are stashes of corpses hidden away in disused quarries or shipped to Nigeria these numbers are propbably reliable.
Interested
What I would say in passing is that Murphy is in favour of both perpetual Lockdown (he was a ‘Zero COVID’ partisan) and Vaccine passports for all so in that sense exposing his ongoing evil, which extends far beyond the economic realm (even if the post is tangential) is certainly a worthwhile exercise but I think your comment a fair one, as they always were in the past!!
TMB
If it was just total deaths, then yes of course – I agree, that’s hard to get wrong.
But what the article (that Campbell refers to) is doing is attributing deaths to vaccinated versus unvaccinated (ie, to calculate a total theoretical deaths if all of us were unvaccinated). Ie, potentially the same sort of ONS problems you describe above. Hence, I would personally wouldn’t rely on that.
As I say, I’ve not looked at the data sources, simply that the theoretical base point doesn’t pass any smell test. At least not to me? As you correctly, point out, we do know what total mortality per annum in England looks like, as a baseline start point, and it’s not south of 350K. Perhaps have a listen to it (this issue shows up in the first couple of minutes or so) and tell me if I’m misunderstanding it?
btw, Jim, I’m not doubting that the vaccine has killed people, lots of people, there is an increasing mass of evidence to support that for anyone that can be arsed to look (but which most people not unreasonably are unwilling to do), but I simply struggled to follow the sense of the Campbell clip.
PF, of course the vaccine has killed people..
Apply [effect X] with a 1 in a million chance to a billion people, and you can expect a thousand cases of [X]…
Vaccines are considered Safe if the worst side effects are in the 1:10.000 to 1:100.000 range, so that’ll be in the 10.000 to 100.000 cases of [X] when applied to a billion people..
Basic math..
Of course…. You’re never allowed to say that those individuals would have had the same or worse case of [X] if they’d had run into the Real Thing™.
Because even with a very mild infection the exposure to the antigen that causes the trouble is several orders of magnitude higher than can be accomplished with a vaccination..
Basic biology.
You’re also never allowed to say that the oldfashioned well-behaved ‘Rona variant we already had in these part had roughly the same incidence of Troubles we associate with WuFlu and the Vaccines. As did the others of the same family.
Because they use the same spike proteïn.
(for a given value of “same” on very tight margins on locii that are meant to mutate happily and often to let the virus adapt to its host.)
This is basic molecular biology/immunology.
But hey… I’m a “True Believer”, whatever that is supposed to mean… Probably something in the order of Grauniad’s “Far Right”.
So obviously I don’t know anything, and I can be safely put in the Bad Boi corner with the dunce hat…
meh….
As I’ve said often enough: the vaccine works, within designed and very much researched parameters and risks.
And yes, that means there’s fallout.
It’s the implementation of it , and the surrounding other measures by complete and utter oafs and nitwits with an Agenda that had nothing to do with actually curbing the impact of the utterly inevitable spread of the virus that ushered us into Clown World, and the resulting mess.
But that has nothing to do with the vaccine itself.
@Grikath: Why are heavily vaxxed countries (usually rich ones) currently running with excess deaths while low vaxxed countries (usually poor ones) running with death deficits then?
It’s not one in a million it’s more like one in 100X where X is a single digit. AND if it was an effective vaccine, wouldn’t it have, like, worked?
@Rhoda,
The vaccine works. Get shot, build up basic immunity against, in this case, *one* specific antigen of the 14-odd the virus actually has.
Then, instead of going out, catch the bug in the wild in a low dose, and complete immunising yourself with only minor symptoms, you continue to isolate yourself from the rest of the world, by choice or coercion.
And let the initial immunisation lapse, because our immune system FORGETS STUFF if it isn’t regularly introduced to the relevant antigen. As Nature Intended.
Which partially also answers @Jim…
With the, frankly insane, lockdowns we “voluntarily” isolated ourselves from that regular exposure to the miasma of antigens we ordinarily encounter daily.
Which means by doing so, we’ve buggered up a significant part of our immune systems, because most of our “natural” immunisations also have that shelf life of 6 months to a year…
When the world started up after those two years, we got re-introduced to most of those nasties, and happily started spreading them around again.
Not a problem for generally healthy people, but the “Risk Groups”… welll… They got slammed with a lovely cocktail of stuff their already weak immune system couldn’t cope with anymore.
So you suddenly get a lot of people getting ill and/or dying from stuff that isn’t CoVid.
In Poor Countries, where lockdowns were generally as haphazard as the CoVid immunisations this was not a problem, since CoVid there took out the Weak, with the rest of the population mostly happily spreading the general Miasma as usual.
So after the same period of time you run out of potential corpses, and you get less people dying, because the population in general has become “healthier” and can cope with the New Miasma without much problem.
This is, incidentally, a scenario ( with variants) that has been studied extensively, and still is, at the cost of untold numbers of rats, mice, rabbits, zebrafish, and other critters over more than a century..
It’s not as if this is news.. It’s population biology/immunology/epidemiology 101…
Those knock-on effects… They’re varied and nasty. And could have been prevented if people and TPTB hadn’t gone completely bonkers.
Oh, almost forgot….
When it comes to human subjects tested against that Miasma…
There’s a steadily growing pool of astronauts ( insert localisation here ) for which this is a serious and well-studied problem….
Here’s another thing to consider for @Jim, but also anyone else who wants to run the Numbers.
Let’s take the UK as an example, here. It’s easier for most people here to visualise.
Ordinarily, with people going about their daily, humdrum lives the UK can be divided into some 40-ish overlapping zones where any person mostly hangs around in, and gets exposed to the Local Miasma.
In each of those zones, Evolution happens to any nasty critters around, but any mutation faces massive competition from the established critters, and something has to be *really* beneficial for any mutation to take over a zone, let alone spread to the other zones.
Anyone who has had/taken care of (grand)kids knows this as The Sniffles.
Or Office Crud. The other Real Life example.
The places where those Zones fight it out is known as Con Crud. Or Metro Crud, which is generally a more common Spreader Event in the UK.
It’s not as if this thing is unfamiliar to people… It’s just so “normal” that people take it for granted, even though most of the times you can trace the origin/Ground Zero *exactly* .
Now imagine what happened during Lockdown…
Instead of 40-ish zones with competition, the UK got divided into …..
Hard to calculate.. even a village has to be split up into Social Circles that Were Allowed…. Don’t even get started on the cities…. Let alone Greater London…
but guesstimate a number and call it 50k separated “communities”. Who did not, mostly, interact.
That is an increase of three orders of magnitude in places where any pathogen could happily evolve with vastly diminished competition. For nigh on two years. Which is, in bacterial/viral lifecycles compared to humans the equivalent of a couple tens of millennia…
So yes, the Lockdowns have accelerated pathogen evolution in general.
With the end of Lockdown the Competition and spreading has been reinstated, but you can bet a tenner in complete safety that there are some new, and nastier, variants of bugs around that are not as extensively studied as CoVid19.
Which, as usual, hit the Weak hardest, adding to the body count “post-CoVid”.
I dare say most people don’t even have a clue this is actually a very real possibility.
But the ones that *should* have have completely ignored this..
Anyone knows one of the Big Shots of the past Lockdown Extravaganza and has the opportunity to run this past them?
I have locally… The “Oh ….F*ck!” faces are magnificent to behold when they realise what they’ve actually accomplished there….
Grikath
so that’ll be in the 10.000 to 100.000 cases of [X] when applied to a billion people..
But you know as well as anyone by now that that’s nonsense.
The Thai study, the Swiss study (both circa 1 in 40), even going back early on to Dr Hoffe (62% elevated d-dimer one week after the Moderna jab), IgG3 for IgG4 substitution, the injected mRNA lasting months within the body (rather than hours as claimed) and spreading pretty much everywhere, etc, etc, etc (it’s late and I can’t be bothered to do an extensive list). There is a mass of data / evidence building up.
Yes, the bat-shit stupidity of lockdowns, its consequences vs nature, we’re all agreed, on lots of different levels – biology, economics, psychology, pretty much the lot.
Of course…. You’re never allowed to say that those individuals would have had the same or worse case of [X] if they’d had run into the Real Thing™.
Sure, of course we all get that. Hey, we’re relatively early days and data will (should) tell us the extent to which this has worked out well or not. Which is sort of what the traditional 5 or 10 years was supposed to do…
Because even with a very mild infection the exposure to the antigen that causes the trouble is several orders of magnitude higher than can be accomplished with a vaccination..
Not that important, but is that true? Simply that a Pfizer vaccine injection has ~10 trillion mRNA, a Moderna vaccine ~40 trillion? And the virus effect is largely mucosal rather than systemic as it is for the vaccine? Genuine question – don’t know?
In summary, I’m simply not convinced that the mRNA technology is in itself entirely safe or effective in this context, trying to target a rapidly mutating mucosal virus by getting the body to attack itself (rather than some dead virus), and all over the body and over an extended period of time, rather than simply at the injection site. If it was, there perhaps wouldn’t be the mass of discussion out there on all of this, and amongst highly expert specialists in their fields?
It’s the implementation of it , and the surrounding other measures by complete and utter oafs and nitwits with an Agenda that had nothing to do with actually curbing the impact of the utterly inevitable spread of the virus that ushered us into Clown World, and the resulting mess.
My intuition tells me that that’s part of a shift, and a welcome one…
[Apols if disjointed, it’s late.]
G @ 11.57
Fascinating… I read an article on this a while back, but not as succinctly as you’re doing here.
Of course, it’s not two years (etc), as significant numbers of us were taking absolutely no bloody notice whatsoever of any of the lockdown bullshit..;) I now know we were doing *the right thing*….
And there it is, Jim ( and others…)
I don’t need to “Self-Educate” by Youtube to have a valid shot at explaining what is happening around the world regarding the CoVid/Vaccination “debate”.
Hell, I shouldn’t be. Or it would be an utter waste of my student loan way back when…
All I need is some 30-ish years old mandatory study material, augmented by Keeping Up With Current Affairs because this stuff *is very interesting to me*, even though I never continued in the Academic Circuit. ( Blegh!!)
Basics. ( for my chosen field.)
Add the famous Razor, and the general assumption that the average Civil Servant promotes by Failing Upward.
No Need for Nefarious Complocity. Standard Human Failure will do.
Especially when you add in the tendency for Politicians to want to be re-elected, and the Leeches to want the Trough to be refilled.
But that’s that, and this is this.
Today I raise my completely OT birthday glass to you all, since I’ve entered my second leg into my fifth decade.
Which, locally at least, means I’ve joined the August Ranks of the Old Farts. And have become Officially Old.
They wish… 3:)
If peeps so choose, this still being mid-week… raise a glass, celebrate life, and realise that with the approach of Autumn, the other end of the world celebrates Spring.
There’s always two sides…
Cheers!
@PF
You’re mostly right, of course. I did do the Lies To Children thing in my discourse, as is appropriate for Our Host’s Blog format.
There’s many factors. But you have to give people with less of a background a fighting chance to get your point.
Can’t expect people to have the same depth…..etc…
The one thing I want to pick out is the RNA load [amount], and the resultant Antigen load you quoted.
Yes, it’s that many Wrigglers that get injected. You forgot to mention that 99% of those get Scrubbed by the usual cell processes.
Because Loose RNA Shouldn’t Be Around, and we got Defenses against that.. ( omnomnom. Free Lunch…)
If you compare that to the very specialised viral lifecycle with an amplification factor of 1:10.000-ish per successful cycle.. That’s a lot of zeroes per generation.
Which is 3-4 hours for CoVid…
That is a *lot* of zeroes if it goes unchecked… and wouldn’t have a rather impressive failure rate because of very triggerhappy mutative areas, and…
So yeah…. Lies to Children on a blog that’s aimed at economists… interested people.
Nope…. Can’t resist…..
Peeps do realise, in line with the howdoesthe female bodygetusedtoinvasion article….
That our little wrigglers get *everywhere* as long as their batteries last…
And that the mucscal barrier of the female esophagus is not much of a barrier to their Might… And the stomach is….too late. There’s a reason the very fancy arrangements of the lower apparatus are there…
So yes, ladies… it does not matter one whit whether you spit, or swallow….
I did do the Lies To Children thing in my discourse, as is appropriate for Our Host’s Blog format.
Happy Birthday for yesterday but I wonder if you stayed up too late and raised too many glasses to yourself.
If we are talking Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation for people who are jabbed up to date with the non-vaccine mRNA cocktail still catching the infection multiple times is…it doesn’t bloody work.
And random spike protein production sites in various organs have harmful and unpredictable consequences which were not tested for in the curtailed testing protocol, the one where they jabbed the control group prematurely.
I’ve joined the August Ranks of the Old Farts. And have become Officially Old.
Well done – although 45 is not old (surely not even in Clogland)…
I did do the Lies To Children thing in my discourse
Of course, and appreciated.
The one thing I want to pick out is the RNA load [amount], and the resultant Antigen load you quoted.
99% failure rate – interesting, with say ~30 trillion cells so in a typical body, I assumed it had to be a quite a bit more than two orders.
Re the virus part, this perhaps gives me a flavour:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33236021/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7685332/
No Need for Nefarious Complicity. Standard Human Failure will do.
Nah, not convinced… Motives are obviously harder to ascertain, but you’ve already alluded to one (ie, the trough); there is complicity there rather than just failure… And more to it than that.
Thanks for the input.
Well I guess lots of scientists all around the world doing replicable research showing that vaccines cause significant harm in all sorts of different ways can all give up now, some random on the internet has proved the vaccines are perfectly safe by just saying they are.
F*ck me, even the vaccines own trials show they are more dangerous than the placebo. I don’t know how much more evidence you need.
@Grikath
Of course…. You’re never allowed to say that those individuals would have had the same or worse case of [X] if they’d had run into the Real Thing™.
I think you may have been pissed when you wrote some of this (and fair enough, not a criticism, it just reads a bit randomly), but if you’re saying what I think you;re saying this is 180 degrees wrong. This is the only thing you ARE allowed to say. if you want to be published in any mainstream media or allowe3d to retain any social media account anywhere bar Twitter (which allows criticism since Musk took over).
Because even with a very mild infection the exposure to the antigen that causes the trouble is several orders of magnitude higher than can be accomplished with a vaccination..
Basic biology.
Completely incorrect. The antigen (ie the spike protein) causing the trouble via infection is gone from your system pretty much in a fortnight. In the case of MRNA vaccines, they turn your own cells into spike protein factories such that you will be churning out spike proteins for months after injection. This has been shown in various studies.
@VP
Thanks for your kind words, but I’m slightly puzzled – I haven’t gone anywhere. I comment on here less regularly than I once did because life intervenes, but I do still comment.
I said two years ago now that ivermectin is the key to all of this.
I believe – I can’t know, it might have been coincidental – from my own experience that it works. Seemed to clear my covid in a day, seemed to clear my very cynical, non-believing wife’s covid in an hour the following day, when she finally agreed to try it after seeing my sudden recovery. 9am she’s lying on the sofa shivering anfd groaning; 10am she’s up and about with no fever.
But don’t take my word for it.
There are multiple studies showing it works. Here’s one of well over a hundred:
https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/new-large-study-ivermectin-cuts-deaths
There are many doctors saying ‘Look, this stuff works’.
The best is probably Joseph Varone – see this video if interested:
https://rumble.com/vj1sm5-ivory-hecker-media-conceals-and-censors-potential-covid-treatments.html
See Tess Lawrie and Professor Andrew Hill – and how Hill changed his tune on ivermectin and admitted on video that it was because of pressure from the Gates Foundation
https://rumble.com/vwfia3-a-letter-to-andrew-hill-dr-tess-lawrie-oracle-films.html
See this in the Japanese Journal of Antibiotics, a Nobel Prize winner estimating there is a one in four TRILLION chance it doesn’t work, ie it works.
No, this doesn’t mean it does work – the NP winner got his NP for discovering ivermectin, so might plausibly be talking his own book (not that he can make any money from it) – but it’s a news story that the media completely ignored.
Why would governments, the media and major pharma coys take against ivermectin?
Because the jabs were legally only allowed to be used under the US Emergency Use Authorisation laws if there was no existing treatment.
They needed to get ivermectin and other treatments out of the picture to bang these jabs into your arms.
If the whole thing was just about money, that was a $100 billion issue – ivermectin is out of patent.
If it was more sinister than that, they didn’t want people not getting jabbed.
They couldn’t even allow people to get treated with it because that in itself would prove it worked. So they demonised (and fired) unwilling doctors and mischaracterised it as horse paste, and the media went along with it.
Utter fucking scum.
Worth reading
https://x.com/thechiefnerd/status/1707352235036770388?s=46
@Interested: But Grikath says all that research sh*t is bollocks so keep taking the juice rubes!
Here’s another little snippet of info:
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/09/28/mhra-finally-admits-it-failed-to-test-the-safety-of-mass-manufactured-covid-vaccine-batches/
Turns out both the EMA and our MHRA never bothered to make Pfizer test the output from its industrial scale vaccine facilities (as it should have done by protocol) and instead allowed them to just rely on the analysis of samples from their lab based production of the initial small scale production run. Sort of the difference in quality between an engine hand made by Rolls Royce engineers vs the output of a brand new factory thats been set up in record time producing 1000s per week What was in the jabs that actually went into arms will never be known. Could have been anything. could have been nothing. Which rather makes sense, given the data out of Denmark on the massive variation in adverse reactions from different vaccine production lots.
@Jim
I hate to use psychobabble but I imagine Grikath took the jabs and is ‘in denial’.
Yes, I saw that. I assume you also saw:
i) the revelation that the German health authorities’ dip testing of jab batches threw up the extremely weird fact that they appear to have know that some batches would cause problems and others would not?
When stratified into three categories –
a) batches that caused lots of serious reactions
b) batches that caused a few serious reactions
and
c) batches that caused no serious reactions, the German government only tested (pre delivery) batch (a) and a bit of batch (b) and didn’t both safety testing batch (c) at all.
It’s very hard to make any logical case for this other than that they somehow knew they didn’t have to worry about batch (c) but wanted to have some sort of handle on (a) and to a lesser extent (b)
ii) the contract with Pfizer which was first leaked by actitivists in (I think) Lithuania and then released in South Africa after FOI demands, and then court cases to enforce them, which showed that governments signed contracts in which Pfizer said it didn’t know what was in the vaccines (bizarre, but I assume this was to cover variations in batches), nor what the long term side effects would be, nor made any claims as to safety or efficacy.
This was at the time our governments and media were assuring us it was both safe and effective, and people were being shamed and fired and ostracised for refusing the jabs or raising questions about them.
Interested/Jim
You are both probably reading (and following the links) more than I am but I’ll share it anyway – some interesting anecdote (along with the rest) towards the bottom:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/
Not one jot inconsistent with increasing narrative elsewhere; which is all adding to the weight of evidence over time.
@PF: the evidence can pile up as much as it likes, but it won’t make any difference until those in authority can say ‘Well I didn’t make those decisions’. No one in a position of power is going to start a investigative process that could end up implicating them. So until we have clean hands in government it will be studiously ignored. The silence on all this stuff from governments tells you they know what the truth is, and have to ignore it for their own necks sake. If the PTB thought (and knew) that the vaccines were perfectly safe and that could be proved beyond reasonable doubt then they’d be screaming all that from the rooftops. Data from national scale healthcare databases would be being used to show that the vaccinated suffer no more illness than the unvaccinated, probably less, the media would be pushing it 24/7. But there’s nothing. All the authorities with all the data are ignoring any claims of harm and just pretending they don’t exist. Data is being hoarded and not made public. Why would you do that when it will prove that you are right?
There’s 2 ways this goes – the harm the vaccines do is uncommon enough to not result in enough deaths/serious illness that the masses start to notice, and/or the harm reduces over time from the last vaccination. In which case it will all be memory holed. The guilty will blank everything for as long as they can, and by the time clean hands get in power it will largely be done and dusted. Or the harm is serious, all pervasive, does not reduce over time, and more and more people will suffer problems as time goes by. In which case people are going to start noticing when family members and friends start getting ill and dying far younger than they used to, and public pressure will start to grow. How long that could take I have no idea – a decade maybe? Its possible that by the election in 2030(ish) at least one political party leader will not have been in power in 2020, or at least only a minor backbencher at the time, and may feel safe to pick up on any undercurrent of anti-vax sentiment, if such is still an issue then. But I doubt anything will happen before then.
@PF yep, read that – thanks though.
@Jim
I fear – and it is fear – that this is too big, and too all-encompassing, that there will be no elections before long.
But then, the UK government has recently brought in laws which give it the power to censor what we read and say online, it is signing up to international health treaties which will give the entirely unelected WHO the power to declare a pandemic and our response to it, up to and including mandatory ‘vaccination’ and lockdowns, and it has opened the door to jailing us for a year and/or fining us £15,000 because we haven’t spent £50,000 on insulating our houses better. It is utterly uninterested as you say in releasing data on jab injuries – indeed, it is uninterested in anything the people want such as no boatloads of unknown cuntsa arriving on our shortes every day, no gangsta rappers running riot in our streets every day etc etc
Maybe it doesn’t matter either way.
“There’s 2 ways this goes”
Jim, I don’t want to sound conspiratorial, but if it goes down option 2, rather than 1 – and the next year or two will quickly start to show this up if that’s the case, ie seeing the detailed mortality data alongside reduced boosters – then I could easily see an alternative. And for which there is lots of form.
Distraction. A new virus could fit that bill perfectly: 1) it makes any subsequent objective data analysis far more difficult to carry out; and 2) it ramps up the fear factor again removing many people’s ability to think clearly. ( And for which we can be quite confident there would be a *ready made* *vaccine* … )
Too many powerful people would be in far too deep to allow any (serious downside) option 2 to become transparently obvious – other than to those tolerated as part of some useful out-group. Haven’t some of Bridgen’s colleagues already admitted that to him? Quite literally, as in “we know you’re right, but forget it”, and hence for now he has to be appropriately ridiculed, at least as far as the mainstream are concerned?
There are far too many of us already heavily dosed up, so let’s hope it’s option 1.
Interested – Ah, OK, you just raised me….
@ Int
And I don’t mean in being conspiratorial, as everything you’ve said is in plain sight.