When Russell and I began texting, he asked me to send some photos of myself in the bath. It was 2006 and my Motorola Razr phone had only ever been used to take pixelated photos of my classmates. I didn’t oblige. When I told him my age, before our first date, he asked me never to send him any nude photographs. That would have been a crime. At that age I wasn’t legally allowed to watch pornography for two more years. I couldn’t vote; I couldn’t drink; but I was free to date a man in his seventies if I wanted.
There was nothing my parents could do to stop the relationship with Russell; no legal recourse. My mother tried everything — grounding me, taking away my phone, even going to see Russell to remind him that I had parents who loved me — but like many 16-year-olds I was headstrong and thought I was so mature. He told me I was grown up and I believed it. My mum couldn’t go to the police, much as she wanted to, because what would she have said? My daughter is 16 but in a relationship with an adult man? It wasn’t illegal.
OK. Either you’re of age or you’re not. So, which is it?
And the Liberals/Greens/SNP/Labour want to give them the vote.
“Foolish but not illegal.”
Nonsense, it was a frisson of excitement that he was doing these things to me.
I’ve long wondered what a thirty year old man would do to a sixteen year old girl that an eighteen year old man wouldn’t.
Fascinating that there is a general outpouring in the press saying people under 18 are immature so it should be illegal for someone over 21 to have sex with them, yet other outpourings suggest that children much much younger should be deemed mature enough in the matters of sex and gender to get their gonads on the chop list.
Any guess as to the number of Muslim “child brides” in this country? Allegedly often married off to relatives from the same village who are a whole lot older than the perpetrator of this epoch-making outrage.
Never mind all that, it’s their kulture innit. Until it goes really wrong as in the horrific murder of Sara Sharif which somehow garners around 10% of the column inches devoted to Brand.
Let’s all concentrate instead on a self-admitted stroppy young woman who against the advice and wishes of her parent had a crush on the country’s most famous serial shagger and now 15 years later is willing to share her story (via her C4 employment).
Reams and reams of dishonest verbiage with the sole intention of leaving readers believing that Brand is basically a nonce.
I bet she’s been dying to stick the knife in ever since he dumped her.
This is really the best they can do against a man who has probably had sex with hundreds of women?
My mum couldn’t stop me
dating Russell Brandbeing a tart — but the law should–Accuser
“I begged Russell Brand to touch my fanny in 2005. That’s why Britain needs Sharia Law now” – The Guardian
Andyf, double think from the left is a feature not a bug.
Russell Brand has gone off reservation and is now a menace (he wasn’t when he was just like them, young, anti-establishment and edgy), so ‘girls of 16 must be protected from older men’, contrasted with ‘these girls are old enough to make these decisions for themselves’ (ex Home Sec to Chief Constables worrying about the number of ropers raping, drugging, torturing and otherwise abusing underage, white girls).
‘Prohibition hasn’t worked, it’s their right to do it if they want to, so we need to legalise drugs’ compared to ‘ban people from smoking, ever’ (as with New Zealand), and ‘let’s reduce the number of people drinking alcohol by pricing it out of reach’.
It’s funny. If you’d given me a list of celebs that would restrain themselves in having a few pics of 16 year olds they were shagging, I wouldn’t have hand Brand at the top of it.
I mean, I don’t morally judge anyone doing it anyway. At least no more than shagging a 16 year old.
When I agreed to talk to The Sunday Times about my relationship with Russell Brand, I thought my story might take a back seat to the allegations made by other women. I couldn’t have imagined waking up to see “16-year-old schoolgirl” splashed across the front pages and in the top line of news broadcasts
Translation:
“Fuck, I thought I could sneak my sad tale of being a teenage slapper somewhere into the middle of the deck, but the journos lied to me and my fictitious story is the best one they have, lol.”
The Times then tapdances around libel laws in order to do exactly as MC described:
There were things that happened within the relationship that were non-consensual
It’s a woman in her thirties being set up to anonymously try to destroy a man in his forties by telling us that “things happened” two decades ago. Vague, secret “things” we’re going to leave to the reader’s imagination. But they did include “coercion and control”, which could mean anything.
That’s journalism, right? It’s in The Times, one of them Serious papers.
I’ve listened to discourse on this subject, the argument being that 16-year-olds are capable of making some very adult decisions for themselves — such as about birth control and certain medical procedures. But in those situations the medical profession is there to advise.
The dumb cow was previously complaining she didn’t listen to her parents’ advice, so the NHS or some kind of professional Slut Whisperer should have told her not to suck off celebrities.
PS – nobody mention Huw Edwards
Steve @ 9.31, Huw Edwards was a naughty boy, but he hasn’t said anything to draw the ire of the people in charge. Russell however…..
Western Bloke
I think that it actually shows that Brand knew the ropes. No piccies, nothing to show The Sun, no proof.
He realised that he had overstepped the mark with the Sachs Affair and went ina different direction after that.
@Pat – September 24, 2023 at 8:15 am
I’ve long wondered what a thirty year old man would do to a sixteen year old girl that an eighteen year old man wouldn’t.
Nothing different… Just for a lot longer and with considerably more skill. 🙂
So nothing illegal happened, just some slap-and-tickle between a teenager and a TV personality who was old enough to know better.
Hardly the Moors murders, is it?
@Steve: damn, now I want to give up my lucrative career to be a professional Slut Whisperer!
“16-year-olds are capable of making some very adult decisions for themselves — such as about birth control and certain medical procedures.”
Does “certain medical procedures” refer to abortion or to chopping bits off, or both?
Why did the conversation become so mealy-mouthed at that moment?
Steve,
The Times has Hadley Freeman saying that “He was our anticapitalist hero, so we couldn’t see the misogyny in front of us”. Yeah. Because Lavrentiy Beria was such a gentleman.
I mean, “anticapitalist”. These are not serious people. A woman who writes about shopping at Marc Jacobs in her 20s and villas and beach houses in her 30s and used to write for Vogue. Every anticapitalist or green is, in truth, someone who lives off the back of a daddy or husband. They manage to compartmentalise away that money, to avoid accepting that they are as much part of the system as anyone else.
The handy Glaswegian expression for such girls is “wee hoors”.
At least Lavrentiy Beria gave the 8 year olds flowers when he raped them and had them picked up by their parents the following morning.
Any guess as to the number of Muslim “child brides” in this country? Allegedly often married off to relatives from the same village who are a whole lot older than the perpetrator of this epoch-making outrage.
I think I’ve told this anecdote before, but back in the 90s, one of my IT team was a young Muslim lad, just turned 18, and freshly armed with his BTEC. He was a good worker, good team member – can’t remember if he eschewed alcohol, but he certainly didn’t bring a prayer mat into work with him. Had you met him in his suit and tie (office dress back in the day), you’d have thought him thoroughly westernised.
And then, he took a week’s leave, and when his colleagues asked where he’d been, he’d been to Pakistan to marry a village girl he hadn’t met. I don’t know her age, but I’ll bet she was no older than him.
“But the law should.” I doubt that the law would stop her.
She could have shot him. Oh, wait, I mean stabbed him with a swordfish she found hanging on a wall.
“Pat
September 24, 2023 at 8:15 am
I’ve long wondered what a thirty year old man would do to a sixteen year old girl that an eighteen year old man wouldn’t.”
Pay for things?
Or – nothing much, but the 30 year old can do it for more than 2 minutes at a time.
16 year olds should be given the vote, but they shouldn’t be allowed to vote for anyone over 21 because their arguments might be too sophisticated for their immature minds.
It’s rather similar to Prince Andrew and 16 yo slut allegation
This could be me being cynical….
But in my recollection, at around the time this is supposed to have happened, UK girls were famous for putting out to any male who wasn’t skint to begin with.
I certainly had no problems at all receiving …generous attention.. from ladies-of-indeterminable-but-youngish age at nightclubs and other assorted venues simply because I actually could foot the bill..
Or Knew the Band, so the …Ladies… could improve their chances.
With neither the looks, the fame, or the attitude of our much-regurgitated celebrity. So it really wasn’t that hard….
Oh… and there was an actual Law in place at the time…
“No Admittance Under18.” , which, quite mysteriously seemed to be only applicable to males. Funny how that worked…
You mean 17 yo slut allegation, surely?