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That bureaucratic mind

A bus lane trap has written off cars whose wheels are getting stuck and damaged, drivers have said.

Dozens of motorists have found their cars stuck in the bus lane in St Ives, Cambs, despite signs warning them not to enter it.

The trap is designed to prevent vehicles driving onto the busway.

The pit in the road is wide enough that small vehicles fall into it but small enough that larger-diameter-wheeled vehicles, such as buses, may pass.

So, a trench across the road to stop people going into the busway. About which the councillor says:

Cllr Kevin Reynolds from Cambridgeshire County Council has admitted he has little sympathy for the drivers who get stuck.

He said: “If people driving along that road cannot see a big hole in the ground in front of them then I would argue they wouldn’t be able to see a small child.

“I would question whether they should be behind the wheel at all…”

But that’s not the right thought to have, is it?

The aim is to keep the busway clear. Which you’re doing by having those in error jammed across the entrance to the busway. Which isn’t a clever way of keeping the busway clear now, is it?

24 thoughts on “That bureaucratic mind”

  1. How clearly marked is it? How easy is the area to navigate for someone from out of town? In Hull there is now a plethora of supposedly cycle friendly road markings, the roads are now festooned with bollards and other obstacles that supposedly seperate the cycle lanes from other traffic, except they don’t because you have to cross them in order to make turns. The signage and layouts are confusing and if you find yourself in the wrong lane you are often stuck with it because there are physical barriers in the way. If this bus lane is anything like that it’s no surprise that people get it wrong.

  2. It’s been a while since I drove in Cambridge, but even 10 years ago the cunty council ([sic] – I got a parking ticket there once for overhanging a line by about 6 inches; I wrote a cheque to “Cambridgeshire Cunty Council” and they happily cashed it!) was virulently anti-car.. I wouldn’t be the least surprised to learn that the car trap has been deliberately designed to cause maximum damage.

  3. My local council designated part of a well used road just before the junction at the end as bus only and marked it with a blue sign with a white bus on it with a diagonal white line passing through it. Most people didn’t have a clue what it meant and interpreted it as busses not being allowed through to the junction. It generated a lot of income in fines till the locals worked it out. Now its only the visitors that use it and get fined.

  4. Well, they’re certainly pushing the death-to-the-car agenda in the UK.

    Since we end up copying all the worst ideas here in Oz, I’ll have keep an eye out for this nonsense.

  5. I used to live near the Cambridge end of it, and remember the car barriers. The problem is how to allow buses access to the busway without letting cars on, because once vehicles are on it there is no getting off and buses really pick up speed. There are also huge signs warning motorists not to enter. To turn onto one you would probably have to be as daft or confused as those people who turn onto railway tracks at level crossings. The aim is certainly to keep the busway clear, but having someone jammed across the entrance is probably better than having them meet an oncoming bus and then having to be lifted off by crane.

  6. @The Sage – Now backup to about the Waitrose and do that again. There is no obvious signage about the trap until you are almost level with it. Nothing at all in the 100 yards before the sign (and no, the “No Through Road” one doesn’t count).

  7. The signage and layouts are confusing
    That’s an understatement.
    I recently used Google Street View to navigate my way through a part of London. It was a route I’d done every day for a period & I was looking for a particular shop but couldn’t remember exactly where it was or the name. I wouldn’t like to drive it now. The sheer amount of street signs. Even at 20 mph, how you’re supposed to read all of them, work out whether they apply to you & abide by them seems close to impossible. Some of them, I couldn’t even understand what they required. Why would you put a no right turn sign where there isn’t a right turn to make? And the amount of cameras! One junction seemed to six on one pole.

  8. Headline in today’s local online rag: “Bus driver shocked to find cyclist riding on guided busway at night without lights”.

    He’d have been a bloody sight more shocked if the twat had had lights.

  9. Well, they’re certainly pushing the death-to-the-car agenda in the UK.
    Since we end up copying all the worst ideas here in Oz, I’ll have keep an eye out for this nonsense.

    Australia (surprisingly to some) is even more urban than the UK, based on the proportion of the population who live in cities – Mick Dundee was the exception, not the rule. City dwellers have far less need for a car, and often seem to believe that nobody should be allowed to own one.

  10. To get caught in the trap, you must ignore the no entry sign on your left “Except guided buses”, the warning triangle “Car trap”, the no entry signed on your right “Except guided buses”, the roadway having the whole lane coloured red and marked “GUIDED BUS ONLY”, and the big hole in the road in front of you outlined in fading yellow paint. And, of course, you should have been suspicious when passing the dead end signs a little further back.

    What level of signage do you think would suffice for people who have missed all of that?

  11. Three No Through Road and two No Entry signs as you approach

    It’s appalling. There are no warnings anywhere along that road (Station Road) that there is a Bus-Way or physical hazard ahead. Imagine you’re a stranger going along there for the first time. It’s dark and raining, and you’re following a big brick-arsed double decker bus that obscures the view ahead even at a bus length behind. The only warning for a fucking great sharp-edged hole in the road is positioned just a short distance before the danger. The sign is well above car height and is a worded message rather than a pictogram. If you didn’t know that fucking road designers would be so fucking insane and evil as to deliberately place a fucking dangerous hole in the fucking roadway, you might not know what “car trap” meant (assuming you could read English).

    And such a car trap is a death trap for motorcyclists. These cunts will happily kill people to enforce their cunty little town-planning bastardry. There should be no “traps” of any kind on the public highways, let alone dangerous ones. If they want a physical barrier, lifting arm technology is mature and tested (transponders in the buses to open).

    And Cllr Reynolds needs a good, thorough kicking.

  12. What level of signage do you think would suffice for people who have missed all of that?

    The issue is the dangerous hole in the ground that malicious fat controllers have installed to catch people being naughty or dim. The only warning (pathetic signage) for that is placed about a Mercedes Sprinter van length from the hazard.

    The aim should be to limit traffic to busses, not to have chancers, old geezers and foreigners fall into holes. It’s obvious that there should be warnings along Station Road that there is a restricted access ahead. The No-Entry [except for busses and business access] signs should be placed just after the junction with New Road, i.e. at the start of the Station Road restriction instead of at the (fucking) end of it. The No-Through-Road signs should be removed, because they are misleading and distracting. The obstruction should be a highly visible lifting barrier, not a trap.

    Road users are falling into the trap so the design is clearly neither sufficient nor safe.

    The same people making us tiddle along at 20mph for “safety” are the same cunts putting holes into the road specifically to have people fall into them.

    More beatings and stampings.

  13. The misguided busway as I heard the good residents of St Ives and Huntingdon call it….
    What’s even better is it is believed that it is sinking due to the fact that all the concrete is too heavy for the Fenland soil.
    I am not a train fan but would have preferred a restored railway (ideally connecting to Huntingdon) rather than what they have.

  14. On streetview 2015 those traps are filling up with dust, leaves and grass clearly growing close to the road level.
    Move to 2023 and some rural cambridgeshire cllr cunt has ordered they be cleared out to their previous depth and a wheel can be fully trapped in them again.

  15. Bongo

    One for “Blade Runners” surely… Now that the idea/precedent is established. Middle of the night, large wheel barrow or two of sand or similar? As a public duty, of course….

  16. Middle of the night, large wheel barrow or two of sand or similar?

    Don’t forget the third wheelbarrow of dry cement. Mix the loads together with a stick in the hole, let the rain do the rest.

  17. I would say the junction shown on the street view link is pretty confusing if you are not local. Why are the No Entry signs at the far end and not at the entrance to the road? Where does the bit in the middle with the Turn Right arrows painted on it go to? Is it a one way street? Otherwise what is the purpose of the lane on the right? If you can’t exit at the far end it doesn’t go anywhere.

  18. Any restriction like this needs to be made via engineering the road layout, something like this which directs you into an escape lane before you enter the restricted part.

  19. Where does the bit in the middle with the Turn Right arrows painted on it go to?

    It’s for access to two businesses on the right.

  20. @ jgh, if you follow the escape lane on streetview you can see how successfully Sheffield is integrating with Diversity.

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