Such a town should have good public transport and streets and paths laid out in such a way as to encourage walking and cycling. Low-traffic neighbourhoods can be designed in from the start, without the rows that tend to break out when they are introduced to existing streets.
Such a town should use the land well, with the sort of densities you might expect to get in Victorian terraces rather than suburban sprawl,
What the tosser means is that no one should be allowed to have a nice 3 or 4 better detatched with a big garden. Because that’s bourgeois, therefore unpleasing to the sort of tossers who become planners and thus Britons are not to be allowed the sort of houses Britons actually desire.
The tosser.
Well, I’d just allocate the land and let people build what they please.
But I’ve never liked trying to make people jump through hoops.
Every bloody New Town was built like this. We studied it at school in Geography and that was in the 1970s !
Didnt work.
No jetpacks or monorails, new towns just need to be places people want to live
People just want to live far away from low quality Diversity, so the physical reality they inhabit isn’t dirty, violent, poor, or frightening. They also want to have cars, food, central heating, and disposable income. The average person would be delighted to live in 1995.
Vote Conservative to ban all these things.
PS – about those Palestinians we all love and are probably going to see a lot more of in the former Western Europe:
In 1992, Denmark gave 321 Palestinian asylum seekers residence permits.
How did they (and their children) fare in Danish society?
⚫ Of the 321, 204 (64%) have received a serious find or jail time for crime, with 71 of them being given jail time.
⚫ A very large proportion of them are receiving some kind of welfare especially the “early pension” (førtidspension) usually given to people with severe physical or mental issues (e.g. handicapped), but also used for immigrants who are basically useless on the job market for whatever reason.
⚫ Of their 999 children, so far 34% are convicted for serious crime and some large chunk are already on welfare.
Ottokring,
Yeah, most of the post-1970s stuff in Swindon is pretty good for cycling. No-one uses it much, though.
And most of the problem is about everything but the cycle paths. It means things like mothers riding with their children to school, which then comes from less women working, which comes from getting rid of “free childcare” and having armies of women doing economically destructive bureaucratic and wanky jobs for government. It also means that you have a firm attitude towards theft, so the police take bike theft seriously and the courts prosecute bike thieves with a couple of warnings, then prison. Which also then means not having a culture of living on benefits, so you stop the breeding of chavs who nick bikes.
The Guardian types have this fantasy about people living in cities but all of their policy ideas work against it. How do you avoid crime in the UK? You live out in a suburb or village far from the chavs. The car allows you that distance. You then put up every defence against any new building, in case you get chavs.
I actually agree that new towns need to be walkable. I don’t want to live somewhere where you need to jump in the car every time you want to do something. Huge expanses of housing with no amenities as dull as fuck.
While lots of people might like a large detached four-bedder, most can’t afford one at current prices. So what we get is housebuilders selling thousands of shit, 900 sq ft 3-bed boxes with a garage and green postage stamp to the front and rear. All of which are 3 miles from the nearest pint of milk.
WB – The Guardian types have this fantasy about people living in cities but all of their policy ideas work against it.
They have a vague idea that we can somehow feed multiple Londons while banning agriculture, abolishing affordable energy production and something something wank fantasies about “urban farming” (which is a very expensive and complicated way of starving people to death IMO).
How do you avoid crime in the UK? You live out in a suburb or village far from the chavs. The car allows you that distance. You then put up every defence against any new building, in case you get chavs.
To what extent are “15 minute cities” a cope by white liberals who’ve only recently realised they’re not going to be able to keep moving away from the Diversity they kept voting for?
The reactionary mind hears about “15 minute cities” and immediately starts trying to work out if it came from Satan, or directly from Soros himself.
The progressive mind hears the same thing and immediately starts picturing himself pootling around on his bicycle, smiling at all the other well paid middle class Weed Dads in the local Holland and Barrett, and maybe having a goss about electric cars over a pint of organic microbrew.
“15 minute cities” are Potemkin suburbs, comrades. They’re the human equivalent of the penguin enclosure at your local safari park. Don’t go in, report all 15 minute cities to your nearest pride of lions.
Steve,
There’s a lot of immigration out of Gaza. People going to Jordan for work. Gaza pretty much depends on the family members who work abroad and send money home. So, if you get Gazan refugees, what are they going to be like? They’re not going to be the hard-working, responsible type, are they?
It would be like bringing a 30 year old bloke who had never worked out of a council estate. Anyone who was good born on a council estate is gone long before that.
WB – I’m on the spectrum (sorry) so the bit that jumped out at me was the numbers.
In only 30 years, a population of violent, welfare-dependent retards increased by 411%
If you dropped a low yield nuke on a foreign city, 30 years later it would be fine. Drop a few migrants, however, and 30 years later you’re living in District 9.
Steve: ’Of the 321, 204 (64%) have received a serious find or jail time for crime, with 71 of them being given jail time.’
Am I the only one reading that and thinking ‘the other 36% just haven’t been caught yet’..?
There’s been an unofficial ban on building detached houses in much of Germany for the last ~3 years. It’s not illegal but you won’t get planning from any council the greens are on. Which is rather a lot of them. First time the planning system has really been instrumentalized here since the law says if a planned building complies with the law, it has to be approved. Or if it doesn’t comply with the law and neighbours etc have no objection (cash can be used quite legitimately to overcome any objections from people other than the planning office) then it still has to be approved.
Since a humungous proportion of German housebuilding is kit-style detached houses made out of prefab pieces, this on top of interest rates and the Government’s insane energy policies, and forthcoming EU energy policies that will effectively render all current buildings illegal in 2050, housebuilding has ground to an almost complete standstill here. Planning approvals are down around 40% year on year.
They are still building refugee housing though. And some social housing. All of which is going to “refugees”.
the sort of densities you might expect to get in Victorian terraces
Oh FFS! Victorian terraces are spec-built slums. They were a solution to a rapidly rising accommodation need at a time when there wasn’t the skilled labour to meet it. They weren’t even a particularly good solution then. Just what was capable of being built.
They’re far from a good solution now. Neither fish nor fowl. None of the benefits of actual high density nor the benefits of low. You want to plan better towns, do what the European have done & build tall. Put retail at ground floor & accommodation over. If you want parking, go down. Then there’s effectively no limit on the size of individual living units. Even a cheap apartment here has more floor area than many UK houses. You want individual outdoor areas hang terraces & balconies on them. My terrace is bigger than the gardens of most UK estate houses.
In 1946 there were about 70,000 inhabitants of Gaza. Today there are 2.3 million.
I’m not on the spectrum but that seems like a high growth rate to me.
In 2005 they just trashed anything previously owned by settlers as Israel withdrew.
They have fought against Jordan. They have ruined Lebanon. Even the Egyptians don’t want them (Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood) and has closed the border crossing.
JuliaM – tbf we don’t know how old the other 36% were. They usually stop actively committing crimes by the time they’re great grandparents, and of course the 64% who have been convicted of serious crimes doesn’t include all the routine, daily crime or serious crimes the cops and prosecution weren’t able to secure convictions for.
Philip – really makes you think when Palis are considered too violent and troublesome to live in other Muslim countries in the Middle East
What the tosser means is that no one should be allowed to have a nice 3 or 4 better detached with a big garden.
Whenever a nice, large detached with a half-acre garden comes up for sale round here (leafy Bucks), it’s bought by builders, who flatten it and erect three or four ‘executive’ dwellings, so close together that you can shake hands with your neighbours from the upstairs windows. It’s what the market wants, apparently.
Living in a 30s terraced estate in a cheap bit o f South East London. Very nice actually. All owner occupied and only a few entrances to the estate makes for excellent security even in the most diverse of boroughs. All 84ms with space for conservatory and loft extensions. Not tiny boxes.