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Integrating migrants into society is “impossible” at the current levels of immigration, Robert Jenrick has said in his first comments since resigning.

The former immigration minister, who quit over Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda Bill on Wednesday, warned that the Tories would face the “red-hot fury of voters at the ballot box” unless they did more to bring down historically high levels of immigration.

But 14% of the population being foreign born is, umm, a lot. Is it too much – in the sense Jenrick means. Not absorbable?

23 thoughts on “You might agree or not here”

  1. The “disastrous consequences for the country” Jenrick refers to are more due to a previously unseen type of migrant that is hostile to the point of lawlessness to the concept of integration into a first world western lifestyle.

    They bring their culture and far from giving it up they’re determined to force it on us with the unashamed support of the political, judicial, law enforcement, education and media classes. As demography follows its inevitable course we are the ones who will be forced to integrate in what used to be our own country.

    Too late Mr Jenrick, much too late.

  2. The red-hot anger of the voters can only punish the Conservatives by voting Labour who are wedded to opening the doors even further. And even – in a environment of anger at foreigners interfering with our voting system – actually giving foreigners the vote!

  3. Integration is still possible but only if the law is rigorously enforced and certain tests are applied as Saxony is proposing.
    Get the patriotic 1st and 2nd generation immigrants involved, believe what they say and we’d have a chance.

  4. But we must Celebrate Diversity !

    Alas Mr Jenrick is indeed too late, about by 50 years. Enoch Powell (pbub) foresaw all this happening.

    For a vwhile there, I believedthat he had been proven wrong and that race relations in this country had dramatically improved and that we were a stable sized society.

    25 years of Socialism and Bolshevism has put paid to that.

  5. In the good old days, we did have a migration system that was designed to choose migrants who’d be prepared to assimilate into our society. We even tried to make sure they looked like us.

    We called it the White Australia Policy.

    It was wrecked by Malcolm Fraser. I was stupid enough to vote for him of course. He insisted on importing Moslem as well as Christian refugees from Lebanon. You’ll agree that this made the rape gangs that subsequently infested Sydney inevitable.

  6. John:

    ‘The “disastrous consequences for the country” Jenrick refers to are more due to a previously unseen type of migrant that is hostile to the point of lawlessness to the concept of integration into a first world western lifestyle.’

    Quite, although there are a number of different sub-species. There’s the sly educated type waging lawfare and getting a foothold in politics (how long before an Islamic Federation of the UK – IFUK?) and the jabbering youngsters who swarm public areas and rely on speed and intimidation to commit petty crime with impunity.

  7. I’ve always thought politician v lamp post was a useful incentive. Only over the last 20 years have I realised that the bastards have beaten me to it…

  8. Is there a problem? Dunno. Let’s ask Rishi Sunak. Or Sadiq Khan. Or that Humza jockinese chap. Or in our neighbour to the west, Leo Varadkar. I’m sure they are doing all they can to achieve a satisfactory solution.

  9. “[He] warned that the Tories would face the “red-hot fury of voters at the ballot box” unless…”
    No “unless”. The Tories will face the fury no matter noises they make in the next few months. They’ve spent 13 years twiddling their thumbs. Does anybody think they’ll actually be able to do anything they promise in the next few months?

    And that’s if you’re daft enough to believe they want to do anything.

  10. It’s the ghetto thing, how at a certain level, people have enough support around them that they don’t work to integrate into society.

    It’s fixable, but it takes generations.

    It’s not really the right calculation, though. The right calculation is: does this person clearly make the UK richer. Once you subtract the services they’ll cost from the tax they’ll contribute, are we richer?

    And we need a serious discussion about asylum. That old system only worked because of how expensive/difficult global travel was. Young, healthy men shouldn’t be running away from trouble in their country, they should be fighting.

  11. If British citizens have to go into hiding because some foreign paedophile orders their murder then we have a problem.
    (Yes ayatollah khomeini was a kiddie fiddler).
    However this has been true since 1989 – good to see the politicians are catching up).

  12. Naz Shah MP was in Parliament this week saying that she represented a Muslim constituency.
    How the hell did that even become a thing – it’s a mixed constituency for sure with many who want a free Palestine whatever that is, but how did one religion get naming rights.

  13. “It’s the ghetto thing, how at a certain level, people have enough support around them that they don’t work to integrate into society.

    It’s fixable, but it takes generations.”

    Well, as one of the Diversity almost said recently: ‘Adolf knew how to do it’

  14. but how did one religion get naming rights..

    They simply took it. Followers of that particular religion are extremely adept at just taking stuff. It’s only a matter of time before they drop the pretence and start referring to taxpayer funded housing and numerous other handouts as jizya.

  15. Naz Shah MP was in Parliament this week saying that she represented a Muslim constituency.

    “Integration” is just whistling past the desecrated graveyard.

  16. I don’t see why Western Europe should allow any Muslim refugees at all. The Dar al Islam is supposed to be a whole community, so if some escape from the nastier bits (Afghanistan, Smoalia, and lots more) they can be resettled in more peaceful bits like Egypt or Morocco where they would integrate more readily.

  17. Philip – we should allow one mosque to be built here for every Christian church that gets built in Pakistan.

    Seems fair.

  18. Used to live on the edge of an area where 5 or 6 streets were occupied by immigrant Muslims (new as well as 1st and 2nd generation), there were older people and women who had been brought over as brides who couldn’t speak English and the young males were to all intents and purposes a feral gang. That was over 30 years ago, I imagine the situation has only worsened since.

  19. Robert Jenrick in Telegraph: Politicians must listen to the people on immigration – or face their red-hot fury
    This will be a defining issue of 21st century politics. The public´s patience has already snapped

    The Gaping Hole in Sunak’s Bill

    “By allowing individuals to make claims that their circumstances mean they cannot be sent to Rwanda, the Bill invites each illegal immigrant to concoct a reason to delay their removal

    The illegal immigrant chasing law firms will gladly assist them in this endeavour, and the “charities” and smuggling gangs will quickly produce a well-tested narrative for their customers to deploy upon arrival…”

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