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Finland also generates the most waste per person in the EU (20,993 kg), while Croatia produces the least (1,483kg). The average EU citizen’s waste footprint in 2020 was 4,815 tonnes.

Journalists at The Guardian can’t do numbers. Film at 11.

24 thoughts on “I think not”

  1. Evidently just increasing costs with more green drivel is no longer enough.

    They need to impoverish us more directly as well.

  2. As Chernyy Drakon remarked in the previous post, the G is shit. Even my tree hugging, bike riding, fossil fuel eliminating friends are getting seriously pissed off with it and stopping paying for it.

  3. Less than 1500 litres of waste water per person per year for Croatia. 4.1l per person per day. That’s one daily flush of the bog — just the flush, doesn’t count any pee that might be in there as well — and on the pathetic “won’t shift a turd” eco-flush, not the one that actually works. And obvs no showers or baths… are they taking lessons from the French?

  4. I suspect the discrepancy in the number is because the Graun journalist isn’t aware that Europeans use a comma for the point. And these are the people who continually tell us “we should be part of Europe”.

  5. I should also draw attention to this part relating to solutions:

    More remote working, better local services and low-carbon transport options such as bikes and trains could be as effective as ramped up vehicle production in meeting people’s mobility needs,

    It’s the usual “people like us”. Remote working is only possible in certain sorts of employment. Mostly administrative in a service economy. Most of the world does not have large service economies. Even Europe.

  6. Just dropped into the middle of that article is:

    “Much of Europe’s housing crisis could be resolved by making better use of empty homes, under-utilised space and more community-focused living, ”

    So they’re advocating taking control of your spare bedrooms and forcing people to live in communes.

    “Welcome to your commune comrade, your allocated space is in that corner. A bed? I’m sorry, but those have been abolished – too many resources needed to make them – but that doesn’t matter, it’s standing room only from now on. I know it’s a bit cold in here at the moment, but once your room mates have come in from their shift it will be nice ‘n’ cozy. Water? Bathroom? Toilet? No; we don’t want to waste natural resources now do we.? There’s a bucket just there. Breakfast is at 04:00 on Wednesday and Dinner is at 23:00 on Greta’s Day. After dinner, you get half an hour to go outside and enjoy the prestine environment we’re all working so hard for. Just half an hour mind – don’t want to spoil it with our presence do we! Work Makes One Free you know.”

  7. Speaking of appalling (and some would say toxic) waste, the Blighted Potato blogs:

    “I was amused by this statistic sent to me by Grammarly, which is one of the tools I use in an attempt to cut the number of typos that make an appearance here.

    They told me that:

    Words analyzed with Grammarly since 2019 – 4,617,268

    That’s nearly a million words a year.

    And I only use Grammarly for blogging, not my other writing.”

  8. Words analyzed with Grammarly since 2019 – 4,617,268

    That’s nearly a million words a year.

    He’s the only person using it?
    (FFS! And he’s supposed to be an accountant? Not much facility with numbers, has he? For what he’s describing, if it’s widely used, you could expect to add another three or four zeros to that at the very minimum. )

  9. But you know the potato won’t accept any of Grammarly’s recommended corrections.

    Probably because of something something fascist neo-liberal something something.

  10. It was the constant irritating (are there any other kind) ads from Grammarly on YouTube that made me install an ad-blocker. Anyone using it obviously cannot write.

  11. If Grammarly was even partly useful it would stop him over using: Firstly, Secondly, Thirdly, Fourthly, etc.

    If it was any good, it would just lock his keyboard and tell him to step away.

    You wrote: “WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH”

    Grammarly suggests: Find something else to do with your life. Anything, For Pete’s sake, anything!

  12. Bloke in North Dorset

    Words analyzed with Grammarly since 2019 – 4,617,268

    That’s nearly a million words a year.

    He’s the only person using it?
    (FFS! And he’s supposed to be an accountant? Not much facility with numbers, has he? For what he’s describing, if it’s widely used, you could expect to add another three or four zeros to that at the very minimum. )

    Amongst his many, many, faults, his lack of curiosity rarely gets mentioned. Didn’t a million word a year even make him think that seems like a lot and do a quick sense check? Obviously that’s rhetorical.

    About 30 seconds searching and I found out the average book has 250 words per page, so he’s writing the equivalent of a 4,000 page book a year, just on his blog.

  13. @JuliaM The Guardian sold their stake in AutoTrader about a decade ago. So those after old bangers are no longer subsidising Owen Jones.

  14. 20,993kg per year, per person? In our household of three, we’d have to be chucking out more than a metric ton every week!

    Don’t these guys think?

  15. I think it’s all waste, ie all business/manufacturing as well, not just household, and then divide by total population. Though not water….

  16. I find Spains domestic waste figures interesting. Food, packaging & plastic being separate. Nobody here sorts garbage. We do have these chutes at the ends of the streets & they are marked organic waste, receptacles & there’s a wheelybin for cardboard. But nobody bothers. Everything goes down one of the chutes irrespective. Unless it’s too large. In which case it goes in with the cardboard or gets left on the street. Haven’t lived in France for a while. But when I did, it was much the same there. They did give you bags for recyclables like plastic. But most people didn’t bother.
    So for those two countries at least, they’re just making it up.
    Out of interest – since we have a diverse readership here – which European countries do household collections? If the country uses common collection points there’s no way to compel sorting. So unless the people are particularly anal (Germany?), they’re unlikely to bother.

  17. In France it depends on the commune, I think. We had household collections in one place, and in another they had molochs (those big underground things) at the end of the street.

  18. I’m wondering what their definition of ‘waste’ is if someone’s throwing away 20 metric tonnes of trash a year.

    Crunching my own numbers, my *household* might be tossing around 2,000kg (for three people) per year for regular household trash, and *maybe* that much again for stuff I picked up intending to fix that ended up not worth it and then dumped or just normal broken appliances and yard waste.

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