While Republicans are split on the decision about embryos after a number of hospitals have ended their popular IVF programs out of fear of prosecution, others, like Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley agreed that “embryos, to me, are babies.”
This, apparently, is theocracy.
Hmm, might be something that folk aren’t going to put up with and all that. Could be something you agree with, something you don’t.
It’s also straight down the line, middle of the road, opinion of the world’s largest centrally organised religion – The Catholic Church.
As I say, agree with or not, it’s not actually an extreme position at all.
As Charles Blow of the New York Times put it: “If you don’t think this country is sliding toward theocracy, you’re not paying attention.”
Cool.
Heretic marshmallow roast when?
“the world’s largest centrally organised religion – The Catholic Church.”
I take it you mean the Roman Catholic Church not the Orthodox Catholic Church?
DM – Yes, because it’s only weirdos who quibble over the term “Catholic”.
Most people have seen The Exorcist and Father Ted, so they’re familiar with the brand.
Eastern Orthodontists prefer to be known as ZZ Top Christians.
One of the many deeply creepy aspects of the American left is their fetishisation of abortion. I have read a number of articles which talk about it as if it is a wonderful thing in and of itself.
I don’t agree with, but rather like, comedian Bill Burr’s take on it, which is: OK, sure, I support abortion because women’s right to choose etc, BUT it is still killing babies and don’t try to pretend otherwise.
@Marius,
Read about Marie Stopes: the Left everywhere love to kill anything they don’t approve of, but yell blue murder about killing murderers or other nasty criminals.
The sad thing about abortion is that sometimes, it is necessary, just as sometimes we have to kill grown ups. What seems to me to be intolerable is to do it on a whim, without real justification.
. . . it’s only weirdos who quibble over the term “Catholic”.
I recall a C of E bishop calling themselves catholic in one of the Royal weddings or funerals, so right enough.
‘comedian Bill Burr’s take on it, which is: OK, sure, I support abortion because women’s right to choose etc, BUT it is still killing babies and don’t try to pretend otherwise.’
Sounds reasonable to me. But of course I’ve never had to actually kill a baby..
PJF – As a general rule, the bigger the hat, the bigger the LARP.
Also applies to the Society for Tedious Anachronism (the monarchy).
Marius,
One of the many deeply creepy aspects of the American left is their fetishisation of abortion.
I’m increasingly coming to the view that for the left abortion as a women’s rights issue is either a 2nd or even 3rd order priority. In 2nd place would be as a wedge issue and to try to demonise the right, but the real problem they have is that it is symbolic of States’ rights and the enumerated constitution.
It really winds them up that they can win landslides in the presidential, house senate elections but still can’t force their warped ideas, and not just abortion, on everyone.
If they really cared about abortion as a women’s rights issue they’d just focus on States where its is banned or severely restricted.
If they really cared about abortion as a women’s rights issue
It’s one of those “rights” demanded by people who don’t believe you should have the right to freedom of speech, property or association.
All of which we have lost in the United Kingdom over the past 40 years or so.
But we’ve done millions of abortions.
PJF – It’s a line in the apostle’s creed: I believe in the holy catholic church. Small c catholic just means universal, and every Christian would by definition say they’re part of it.
Steve – don’t think we’ve ever had ‘the right to free speech’ in this country, have we?
BiA – we had effective free speech as recently as the 1990’s. You had to go out of your way to get prosecuted for speech crimes, and there was a range of opinions permitted on telly, at Yooni, and in the House of Commons.
Cancel culture didn’t exist.
Now you can go to jail for making fun of trannies on the Internet.
“I recall a C of E bishop calling themselves catholic in one of the Royal weddings or funerals”
The Church of Scotland will baptize you into the universal catholic church. So will the Free Kirk. But yeah, everyone knows what’s usually meant by “Catholic”. Especially with a captial C.
My dad preferred “papist”. Leading to many a bruised shin under the table from my mum. Couldn’t fault him for accuracy, though.
@PJF
The Church of England is a Catholic church, Just not Roman Catholic.
The Catholic Church isn’t the same thing as Catholics, is it Tim?
I’m surrounded by Catholics. They still cleave to the mysticism schtik. But that’s about it. As far as the rest of Catholic teaching, Rome’s about as extreme from them as the CofE is from nominally CofE Christians.
Sam – Papist is ok, but I like the older term “Romish”. Usually followed by the word “plot” whenever I’ve read it. Read, not heard, as I suspect anyone who would call something a Romish Plot has been dead for 150 years.
Jack Glass is a wee pastor.
And there was me thinking the Pythons had already given the correct answer….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
Eastern Orthodontists prefer to be known as ZZ Top Christians.
I’m stealing that, thanks Steve 🙂
Our local Methodist Chapel (congregation ~3, average age ~83) has closed and is now a thriving Romanian Orthodox Church, filled to bursting and with some congregants travelling 100 miles.
I approve of past-birth abortion. Society is better off if women willing to kill their babies don’t reproduce.
Elizabeth I pleaded with her people to stop using offensive religious terms about each other. The examples she gave were Papist and Protestant.
Anyhoo, having had a proper primary school education I think of Catholics in the context of Catholics vs Arians during the fall of the Roman Empire. Roman Catholics misbehaved in 1054 thus abandoning the ancient Catholic church: splitters!
There is only one Christ, Jesus, one faith. All else is a dispute over trifles.
– But we’ve done millions of abortions.
Not enough, apparently.
Health Secretary set to back decriminalisation of abortion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/02/23/parliament-historic-vote-decriminalising-abortion/
– One of the many deeply creepy aspects of the American left is their fetishisation of abortion.
Thank God for the British Conservatives, eh?
“All else is a dispute over trifles”
Those church lunches always cause arguments.
@dearieme
And also endorsed William Duke of Normandy´s claim to the English throne.
Bastards!Wretches !