Corporal punishment – an essential part of a decent schooling perhaps.
But, umm, the headmaster giving the 18 year old – and really rather cute – cheerleader a thorough spanking?
Might we not think that it is maybe not entirely school discipline that is involved here?
“They were so eager to go in there and spank me,” said Daniels, who said she was struck by Assistant Principal Tim Davis, a former Major League Baseball player who pitched for the Seattle Mariners, while Principal Eric Willis observed and laughed. “They took their time, they watched me.”
I mean, if that’s true, I’m surprised those teachers are currently still able to walk and eat solids.
It’s a very bad idea to hurt someone’s daughter.
Especially when that hurting is a clear (taking the article at face value) sexual assault.
Maybe she’s the stuck up queen bee type from mean girls and the teachers were quite happy at the chance to bring her down a peg or two and send a message
Corporal punishment is one of those events where time is subjective, can feel like it’s taking a long time as you are anticipating the next strike
I’m old enough to have attended school back when caning was still used for discipline. But girls were dealt with by the headmistress. Allowing men to physically discipline girls is pretty perverse and, I would have thought, pretty much guaranteed to cause problems.
Quite. She’s quite the cutie, she’s 18 – the possibility of sexual perversion (or of course, mutually enjoyable kink as long sa it’s mutually consenting) is v high.
What gets me is anyone looking at that and thinking, yeah, why not let the school do that?
Chastisement isn’t my point at all. It’s a 40 year old man being able to force an 18 year old girl to be paddled as part of the school regime.
Totally, appallingly O/T, but fvck me sideways with a fvcking bargepole, this is a hoot!
A firm of funeral directors sent Valentine’s Day cards to residents of a care home, in what has been described as an “appalling stunt” that the undertakers have admitted was “misjudged”.
The cards sent to Whitegates Care Centre in Surrey were decorated with a red heart and a pink bow, the Sun reported, and bore the words: “Sent with love from TH Sanders & Sons.”
– It’s a 40 year old man being able to force an 18 year old girl to be paddled as part of the school regime.
Would a 40 year old man being able to force an 8 year old boy to be paddled as part of the school regime be essential to a decent schooling?
Bravefart – a grave mistake?
BiW – it is, unless the school remembers a very different version of events this sounds completely indefensible and also a criminal act.
PJF – There’s no point in hitting children. They learn little from the experience, except hate.
Instead, use a Bene Gesserit pain box.
“There’s no point in hitting children. They learn little from the experience, except hate.”
Come now; getting the tawse occasionally proved to be excellent preparation for fielding in the slips.
The map of states which allow corporal punishment correlates closely to the map of states with a high percentage of blacks. At home, black parents are twice as likely to hit their children compared to white parents; often justifying it as necessary to keep them under control. Perhaps schools in those states decided that corporal punishment was effective on black children, and thus decided to maintain the practice.
“Perhaps schools in those states decided that corporal punishment was effective on black children, ”.
I’d hate to see what ineffective looked like.
“I’d hate to see what ineffective looked like.”
I think that on this matter, ineffective means that the kids don’t change their behaviour at all, they just get inured to the punishments and keep coming back for more. If their parents are constantly whacking them at home I imagine that they would just consider it a normal part of life.
My niece is a third and fourth grade teacher in Florida. She has tales of semi-feral pupils of colour who regularly vandalise school property and assault other kids and teachers. The schools are powerless. Shouting is verboten while laying a hand on young Jamaal to restrain him will likely result in losing their jobs and never teaching again as state authorities invariably side with the child. Parents are experts at playing the race card and cashing in. Accusations of racist name-calling by teachers are commonplace, always believe the child is the mantra. The only possible punishment is a short suspension served at home but within a day or so the parents tire of the responsibility and dump the kids back at school.
Teachers who care are permanently on the lookout for a transfer or new position in a less diverse zip code. Others are content to soak up lush public school salary and retirement packages irrespective of how poorly their schools rate academically.
I don’t know about corporal punishment being effective because it simply can’t be done.
You’re all missing the point. The point of beating children for misdemeanours is not to stop them doing it again, though it may have that effect on some, its to provide an example to keep the other 99% in line. Its entirely possible that you end up beating the same kid every week, because he (almost certainly a he) has some sort of psychological disorder that prevents him from connecting doing something he shouldn’t with the resulting punishment, but by doing so you keep the rest of the class in line. Thats what its there for.
Its all about the margins, as our host constantly tells us. Pupil A gets beaten every week for something or other. Pupil B get beaten occasionally but eventually learns to behave. Pupils C,D and E all get beaten once and decide they won’t do that again. The rest down to Z look at whats happened to A-E and decide to behave themselves. In the absence of corporal punishment everyone moves up notches in bad behaviour, until its like Lord of the Flies, such as we have in State schools today.
But hey, don’t beat your kids, its bad m’kay?
I was regularly thrashed at school including by a gay priest who insisted on getting you down to your shreddies.
It honestly didn’t bother me – I developed a very useful system of thinking ‘In a week this will just be a funny story’, and I’ve adopted that for other shit since (hard to do with the current shit, admittedly).
Plus I generally deserved it.
I wouldn’t mind spanking young cheerleaders, but only enough to make their arses wobble a bit.
I have no problem with physical chastisement, for the reasons you outline. I do have a problem with sexual assault, and Interested’s priest should probably also do time if he’s not already burning in his hell.
I think the overly-long article linked is unhelpful in conflating the two. If campaigners wish to end all physical punishment, then that’s their right to try. The cheerleader should absolutely press charges if her story is accurate.
Bloke in Pictland – that reminds me why I’ve never liked cricket. Getting hit in the legs or the head with one of those hard little balls is no fun and could potentially make an unsuspecting child into an algophilist or ombrophile.
Interested – My father did the beatings in our house, but his heart was never in it.
The preceding hours of my mother’s detailed, dramatic and imaginative descriptions of my pending excruciations were worse than anything a tired, shy man could bring himself to inflict on me with a belt.
She was like the Roald Dahl of Fear.
“A significant body of research suggests that corporal punishment has the opposite effect of improving student behaviors..”
Seeing that photo, somebody is missing the point here, big time.
We had corporal punishment at most of the schools I attended. We never minded when it was deserved, but hated and resented it when we were fitted up.
Given what the Bible says on corporal punishment I’m surprised Steve isn’t all in favour.
Proverbs 13:24 in case he missed it.
Nobody should be given the right to beat up kids. In Glasgow, Llandudno, Coventry, Dundee, Wolverhampton, Dublin, Cork, Galashiels, and Manchester, a person who hits kids should be locked up. Hitting children is evil.
Clive:
Not at all. A short sharp smack for a young child is far more loving than sending them to the naughty step or sorting at them. It does no long term damage, and it’s over quickly so everyone can move on from whatever the misdemeanor was.
Done in a loving, stable environment where there are clear boundaries and expectations it’s healthy. Way better than trying to do all discipline verbally, laying on a whole pile of guilt that they don’t understand.
John,
This is the thing with physical punishment in schools. It was about doing it if the parents didn’t. Very few kids at my school got caned, because a letter home, or asking the parents to come in dealt with it.
I just don’t see why the school and all the other kids should have to put up with this crap.
Dressing up as a cheerleader for a spanking by the headmaster is so vanilla.
Squirrel suits are where it’s at.