Prince of Wales praises suicide charity as he opens new centre
It’s this modern world that’s weird. I had to do a little thinking here – so, this charity, is it pro- or anti- suicide? Only in recent decades would that be necessary.
Prince of Wales praises suicide charity as he opens new centre
It’s this modern world that’s weird. I had to do a little thinking here – so, this charity, is it pro- or anti- suicide? Only in recent decades would that be necessary.
“For assisted suicide, press 1; for preventing suicide, press 2; for all other …….”
One of the things about being a white haired old bastard is that you realise that fashions can really change to virtually anything.
Would you be prepared to bet that in another 20 or 30 years, we don’t have ‘volunteers’ having their hearts cut out on the altar of Holy Mother Gaia??
Since he didn’t take his slimeball brother with him, I guess it’s anti-
Charity that supports suicidal men GOOD
Social media suicide discussion BAD
Assisted dying GOOD
Another weird thing.
Most of the suicidal blokes I know are ex-forces. Not necessarily combat veterans, just ex Army, RAF and Navy lads in general.
Not sure why.
Boganboy,
Have a search online for “Zero HP Lovecraft Green New Deal” – it’s a short story along similar lines to what you describe. (Please heed the warning at the top.)
Related, there are more people who remove their genitals (~350 a year on the NHS) than donate a kidney (~150 a year).
Thanks Andrew.
I do hope that both myself and Zero HP Lovecraft are just talking bullshit!!!
Ah, but “studies say”:
New study by the University of Manchester finds that suicide risk amongst veterans overall is similar to the general population
Serving in the military for longer periods of time, and serving on operational tours were associated with reduced suicide risk; while younger veterans and those who left after a short career were more at risk
In my experience, this is complete bollocks. The guys I know are middle aged men who spent years in the forces before successfully transitioning to civvy life. They have jobs, wives and children and they’re still plagued by thoughts of killing themselves.
Who am I going to believe, academic “studies”, or my own lying eyes?
I still have to mentally re-engage gears when I see “Prince of Wales”.
By the way, just on the off chance that anybody who is reading this suffers from suicidal thoughts.
You are not alone.
There’s a lot more love and empathy and understanding and support out there in the world than you know.
Please talk to someone. Don’t suffer in silence. We need you.
Andy’s Man Club is in a town near you, at 7 pm every Monday night except bank holidays. The coffee is free.
‘”academic “studies”, or my own lying eyes?’
But your evidence isn’t from being an eye witness, it comes from taking literally someone else’s account of how he feels. Whereas the study claims to look at the numbers who do commit suicide.
I’ve had two friends commit suicide. One was a young woman who never grasped the nettle of resigning from a job where her treatment just ground her down.
The other was a middle-aged man who, because (it’s suspected) of some NHS cock-up, ran out of the happy pills that kept him reasonably sane.
Neither had had anything to do with the forces. The first case, though, suggested to me that anxious young women shouldn’t work for the sort of lefties who love all humans except the ones they actually meet.
people who remove their genitals (~350 a year on the NHS)
I wonder if they will ever become donatable?
dearieme – I’m terribly sorry to hear about your friends. I think I know exactly how that poor chap who was being messed around on his medication felt.
Thanks to Our NHS, you can very easily find yourself in a situation where GP’s, or some combination of GP’s, psychiatrist specialists and those women on a go-slow at your local pharmacy fuck you about on pills that you need in order to function. It’s a horrible thing to do to someone who is probably already feeling very low.
Yarp, my experience is mere anecdata, and yet I find myself unable to ignore it. Just to be clear, I don’t think the armed forces cause suicidal thoughts (unless you have PTSD, and I only know one guy who has that, a parting gift from Tony Blair’s Iraqi adventure).
Possibly there’s some sort of selection bias, but I’m scratching my head trying to explain why that might be the case. Most people I know aren’t ex-forces.
Once, I was staying at a school friend’s over the weekend. Seaside town. “You’ve got a phone call” said friend’s Dad, “It’s your friend Sheila” (not her name but she was Aussie). “I don’t have any friends called Sheila”, i thought but i took the call. Turned out i did. It was a family friend, my mum’s friend, who lived in Oxford, a long long way away. For some reason she had gone to the school and they’d given her the number of where i was staying. She had driven over from Oxford, a very long way away, and called me from a phone box about 5 miles away. She said ” i’m not quite sure why i drove all this way but i wanted to see you” i went ” oh ok, actually sheila it’s a bit strange for you to do that” She said – ” i know, i think i need my medication and i haven’t brought it with me. It’s Lithium, do you know any doctors here?”. , Well i didn’t but my friend’s mum was the secretary in a GPs practice. I gave the phone to her. She invited Sheila over, giving directions and then called her boss. Sheila turned up, had a cup of tea and a chat with everyone. Then my friend’s mum drove her to her GP surgery, she got her medication, took it. Came back stayed for a meal, thanked everyone profusely before leaving. And that was that. I wasn’t even embarrassed just bloody amazed that it happened.
“fuck you about on pills that you need in order to function”
This happened to a friend – the culprit was a GP (or maybe more than one at the same practice). He denied him the powerful painkiller he needed. When he eventually got a supply things improved.
Then he was called into hospital for a different matter and, while there, a nurse stole his supply of that painkiller. Again he had trouble getting more. Eventually he took to the bottle as being the most effective painkiller that was readily available.
Our wonderful NHS.
It’s this modern world that’s weird. I had to do a little thinking here – so, this charity, is it pro- or anti- suicide? Only in recent decades would that be necessary.
And the Prince of Wales’s father King Charles (that seems a bit weird these days) visited a cancer charity yesterday.
jgh said:
“I still have to mentally re-engage gears when I see “Prince of Wales”.”
I’m still having that problem with the Duke of Edinburgh.
Ditto “The Queen”. Maybe we should reserve The Queen for a monarch in her own right and use Queen Consort for queens by marriage. But that wouldn’t stop the problem when Kate becomes Queen/Queen Consort.
Presumably Camilla would become Dowager Queen?
Suicide centres have been around for some time. They’re more usually called carbon markets.