Peter Geoghegan, from Democracy for Sale, said: “The GWPF refuses to declare its donors but our investigation has found that the most prominent face of climate change denial in Britain is being bankrolled by Conservative donors with seats in the House of Lords, including one appointed in Liz Truss’s controversial resignation honours list.
“That GWPF is being funded by Tory peers and has close ties to Nigel Farage’s Reform UK goes to show how climate denying money is influencing our politics.”
People are allowed to spend their own money their own way, yes? Like Dale Vince giving £5 million to Labour?
And what sort of wrongthink are they peddling to the masses?
’ We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth.’
Sounds good to me.
When they argue the source of the funding it’s because they can’t argue the facts.
Exactly how much money are we talking about for the GWPF to put out a couple of pamphlets? Are they some massively effective propaganda outfit whose work appears everywhere and I just didn’t notice?
The climate change scam is backed by every Western government, financier, the entirety of academia and the media, the civil service, all the celebrities, and every major international corporation.
But it’s in mortal danger from some blokes, with a budget of 20p, telling you the truth.
…. climate change denial …. they use that phrase as a slur, though I doubt they will have ever met someone who denies that climates change over time. Everyone accepts that there have been times when it’s warmer and times when it has been colder. The disagreement is over the amount of change, to what extent human activity has played a part, and what if anything we could do to slow or prevent it. After that the debate changes to if such action would be cost effective and hence should we take any action at all.
But the last thing they want is debate. Especially debate that uses the scientific method.
And what sort of wrongthink are they peddling to the masses?
’ We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth.’
Sounds good to me.
And when its so hot that people are dying of heat related causes its usually because the sun is shining so we can harness that energy with solar panels to power aircon, but when its so cold that people are dying due to the cold the sun isn’t shining, or if it does it isn’t for long and there isn’t much energy, and the wind is unreliable so we need fossil fuels to heat our homes.
You’d thing that they’d be happy with the reduction in fossil fuel burning, and they would if they weren’t all watermelons desperate to control the minutiae of our lives.
Being curious, I decided to look up GWPF.
Its arguments seem reasonable to me.
I suppose that’s a clear and obvious proof that the enlightened will be racked by violent vomiting at the merest glimpse of them.
So who should fund political campaiging? The taxpayer? Then the Civil Service decides who’s allowed to stand and who isn’t? Oh, yes… we see the Plan here, Geoghegan, don’t think we don’t.
Don’t you sometimes wish that the weather would catch up with the “climate”?
“ Andyf
June 8, 2024 at 10:26 am
…. climate change denial …. they use that phrase as a slur, though I doubt they will have ever met someone who denies that climates change over time.
Ironically isn’t that exactly what the Climate Crisis/Boiling Earth crowd claim? According to them the climate is static and only changes because of Mankind’s influence.
It’s the climate statists who are climate change deniers.
CO2 @ 360 ppm = no global warming
CO2 @ 420 ppm = runaway global warming
It’s impossible to stop even if we reduced fossil fuel use to zero. In accordance to Henry’s law, the oceans will outgas CO2 to maintain the equilibrium. That’s 193 million square miles of CO2 production.
We’re all doomed, I tell ye. No point in sending the kids to school when the world is about to end.
This is definitely worth reading:
https://www.thegwpf.org/publications/steven-koonin-the-2021-annual-gwpf-lecture/
According to Mystic Met, we’ve just experienced the “warmest May on record”. Funny that my heating bill doesn’t seem to reflect this, and nor does my memory of last month. Even though the sun is shining today, it isn’t exactly tropical!
According to Mystic Met, we’ve just experienced the “warmest May on record”.
I watched an interesting video the other day on how they justify these ridiculous statements…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S7F6bqkTCE
“The record” only goes back to 1880.
Well, I for one am a denier that the climate can change, except on multi million-year geological scales.
I was taught that climate is the result of four inputs: latitude, elevation, topography and proximity to water. That doesn’t change.
The whole point of the CO2 theory is that there will be more warm days and fewer cold days. But that’s not a change in climate. It’s a change in the intensity or frequency of the routine individual weather events.
As it happens, December 2010 blew that warming theory out of the water (extended cold to a degree never remotely experienced before in December). But it was still just cold weather in December. It didn’t portend a change in the temperate, maritime climate of the British Isles, any more than the scarcity of late frosts did in May.
Communist China produces more than 30 times as much CO2 as the UK. Why aren’t the anti-Global-Warming activists protesting in Tienanmen Square?
“It’s one of those irregular verbs, minister
I am a self-made man, funding people who agree with my self-evidently moral and correct principles
You are buying influence
He is a Tory fatcat corrupting democracy”
This is one of those things the drama graduates do not follow through on. If there is an emergency and we want China, and everywhere else for that matter to alter their behaviours without having to threaten to invade them, then we use prices – no quotas on imports, but a tariff on the CO2 emitted in their production.
If we don’t we keep the current ridiculous situation where we can pretend to have solved a problem by exporting emissions, and ignoring the emissions in getting their products shipped here.
For the road squatters it’s clearly not about making climate change a manageable problem then.
“I am a self-made man, funding people who agree with my self-evidently moral and correct principles
You are buying influence
He is a Tory fatcat corrupting democracy””
I would shorten it to:
I am advancing a progressive future,
You are furthering your own interests,
He is corrupting democracy.
Carbon tax for Chinese imports sounds good, they don’t seem to have any problem levelling it on their own citizens (yes incidence means we will pay the tax either way) though the Canadian agency responsible for calculating the tax seems to have screwed up the calculations then ‘quietly’ put a note on their website (sorry no leopards involved) and is being stroppy noe it’s been noticed. It’s been described as an ‘honest’ and ‘inadvertent’ error, apparently they ‘forgot’ there was a separate consumer and industrial scheme and didn’t separate the two.
@Paul, Somerset
It happens a lot faster than that. 12,000 year ago large parts of Europe and North America were under miles of ice. Where I lived was under a few hundred feet of water from glacial runoff. Today it is desert with an average of 2.5 inches of rain a year. Thousands of people live on what was lake bottom.
Of course that is nowhere near as fast as the warming alarmists are claiming.
According to Mystic Met, we’ve just experienced the “warmest May on record”.
I watched an interesting video the other day on how they justify these ridiculous statements…
Also: The Met Office is Gaslighting Us With its Claim that Our Damp and
Chilly May Was “Warmest on Record” here
Talking of Left’s sacrificial religions:
Three quarters of people would use private healthcare if relative was stuck on NHS waiting list
– 25%, inc Comrade Starmer, would sacrifice themselves or family on the alter of Socialism
I’d love someone to leak records of his private health use when as DPP we paid for it. FOI anyone?
MG @ 1.45 and Paul @ 3.52, have a look at Dansgaard-Oeshger events:
“In the Northern Hemisphere, they take the form of rapid warming episodes, typically in a matter of decades, each followed by gradual cooling over a longer period. For example, about 11,500 years ago, averaged annual temperatures on the Greenland ice sheet increased by around 8 °C over 40 years , in three steps of five years,[3] where a 5 °C change over 30–40 years is more common.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansgaard%E2%80%93Oeschger_event