The Great British Energy thing. Anyone seen the actual detail of what they propose to do?
There is a smart logo and a flashy website.
When Sir Keir Starmer launched the Labour Party’s plans for Great British Energy in Scotland earlier this week, it was meant to be a defining moment.
The state-led energy giant that would reduce the UK’s carbon emissions to zero and cut everyone’s energy bills while creating thousands of “well-paid green jobs” would finally begin to take shape.
There were just a few snags.
It turned out the logo had been bought off the shelf for £35, and was already being used by other companies,
You don’t expect the proles to be given any details, do you? We’re just going to be paying for it, through the nose.
“The state-led energy giant that would reduce the UK’s carbon emissions to zero and cut everyone’s energy bills while creating thousands of “well-paid green jobs.”
Does anyone at all actually believe any of this? Surely nobody is that stupid.
Actually the UK could have done this half a century or so ago.
Build lots and lots of nukes. Burn ammonia to run everything.
Of course the stink of the ammonia would have been a damn nuisance. And no doubt the Greens would have howled in horror at this blasphemous rape of Holy Mother Gaia.
But it would have worked. And also given the Greens the opportunity to campaign against this racist attack on the BLACK colour of good old carbon. And argue that it was the cause of the new ice age!!!
“Surely nobody is that stupid.”
Oh, Stony, yes. Yes, they are. And there’s more of tham than you’d ever believe…
“that would reduce the UK’s carbon emissions to zero”
So, it’s not going to be an energy supply company, it’s actually going to be going around collecting everybody’s carbon emissions and storing them away somewhere.
I’m less interested in this thinly-veiled nationalisation scam than I am in one of his other pledges, to grow the economy, to generate wealth. Now THERE is a plan with no detail. In fact an unconvincing aspiration, because the Left does not believe wealth is a good thing and has not a vestige of a clue as to how it is made anyway. And yet nobody asks Starmer how it is to happen or whether those who succeed will be punished for it. The press needs to ask him ‘Is profit good or bad?’ I suspect the answer would be the same as ‘What is a woman?’, no answer at all.
The thought of that vacuous loon empty suit being in with a shot at being PM appals me.
We have some analysis which includes why Starmer can claim it will provide Cheap energy
Starmer’s ‘Great British Energy’ Fantasy
We’re destroying our lives trying to stop a non-existent problem instead of celebrating a warmer more productive and richer world with more plant food
going around collecting everybody’s carbon emissions
Sigh
Yet another bin to put out…
Anyone seen the actual detail of what they propose to do?
What governments propose invariably falls a long way short of what they actually achieve. For example:-
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a60702457/federal-funds-yield-only-8-ev-charging-stations/
(That’s $7.5bn in federal funds. $937m for every single roadside charging station opened to date over a 2-year period. It’s enough to make Americans nostalgic for that time when NASA appropriations “only” paid $10k for a single screwdriver).
And over here Sir Kneel wants us to pay £28bn every year for his vague vanity project.
And again, high energy prices are not just the result of government policy, they are its aim.
Great British Energy, more Net Zero bollocks, gerrymandering with votes for 16yo children, lawfare on anything outside of the left-liberal consensus, ad nauseam…and yet some here bizarrely argue that the Tories are identical to Labour and that a Labour victory would be no worse than a Tory victory.
“So, it’s not going to be an energy supply company, it’s actually going to be going around collecting everybody’s carbon emissions and storing them away somewhere.”
It would be much cheaper to disconnect everybody from everything. That would achieve net zero.
@Stonyground
Surely nobody is that stupid
Look around you. They wanted, demanded to be locked up, wear masks and everyone take not a vaccine poison jabs
All for something that in Feb 2020 was obviously no worse than normal seasonal influenza. In Feb 2020 I posted here it was a nothing-burger, keep calm and carry on as normal
Govt know CO2, Global warming is Not a problem. They use it because they are ordered to by UN, WEF to increase control of people using Fear same as lockdowns. Net-Zero is all part of the plan for a one world China where “You will own nothing, you will be happy” serfdom
Anyone who opposes is vilified, destroyed like Farage, Trump, Truss, Peterson…
Suck it up, Theo. You can stick a fork in the tories, they’re done!
The thought of that vacuous loon empty suit being in with a shot at being PM appals me.
A sentence that sums up every election we’ve had since 1997.
Possibly even the Major election as well…
According to the superb Steve Loftus the government will put in £1.6bn a year to GBE over 5years, total £8bn, with the private sector invited to fund twice as much as that, hence the claims of creating a £24bn energy company.
Investment by foreigners will be permitted so if EDF, RWE, China etc even Ireland put in 3/4 of the investment combined then it becomes a net foreign owned company. Just lol.
No detail what they will do, play around with hydrogen would be my guess, until there’s a massive explosion.
BiW
Is that the best you can do faced with a rational argument?
The rational thing for anyone on the right to do in this GE is:
1. Vote Reform in any constituency where Reform has a chance of winning – eg Barnsley x 2
2. Vote Reform in any constituency where the Tories have no hope
3. Vote Tory in any constituency where Labour or the Limp Dicks are the main challenger to the Tory incumbent and a vote for Reform would risk a leftie scumbag taking the seat…
The Tories are not equivalent to Labour, however disappointing they have been. Expressing your anger with the Tories at the ballot box, rather than voting tactically, might be satisfying therapy for you, but it will lead to a particularly dreadful Labour government that will try to rig future elections in their favour and…
@Otto
But what colour will the new bin be? Diane Abbot will argue for black, Angela Rayner will want red. My guess is that they’ll settle on rainbow.
There is no rational argument in which the tories are the answer to the country’s problems.
According to the superb Steve Loftus …
If your on Twitter this guy really is worth a follow: @LoftusSteve
Most people understand that climate change is a serious issue, and that over time carbon emissions will have to be reduced.
No, fuck off and eat shit.
The state-led energy giant that would reduce the UK’s carbon emissions to zero and cut everyone’s energy bills while creating thousands of “well-paid green jobs”
I presume he means net zero rather than zero, nonetheless the task is similarly impossible and if you take a look at the various ‘scenarios’ envisaged by the National Grid, they involve widespread use of green hydrogen (unproven at scale) and carbon capture and storage (unproven full stop). ‘Green’ measures have sent bills rocketing and there is no sign of them changing course. The cost of energy is becoming a major obstacle to growth.
However, I do believe the bit about thousands of well-paid ‘green’ jobs. £1.6 billion a year should support a couple of thousand troughers on six figure salaries and a whole ecosystem of parasitic consultants. Trebles all round!
Its going to be quite amusing watching the left and greens, to the extent there’s any difference, over the next couple of years because following the EU election there’s going to be a lot of slow and not very slow walking back of most of their climate and environmental targets.
The Germans are getting their way over vehicle fuels emissions targets which will be pushed back and efuels allowed. Also expect net zero targets to be fudged because of the election of “not progressives” to the EU parliament with the centre right taking full control so lots of stagnation.
Meanwhile Miliband minor will no doubt get his wish to fuck-up our economy even faster than the wet Tories would.
As a rule of thumb I assume that anything called “The Great British …” is likely to be a load of useless twattery.
Pip.
Yep, bake off is shite.
“Great British Energy, more Net Zero bollocks, gerrymandering with votes for 16yo children, lawfare on anything outside of the left-liberal consensus, ad nauseam…and yet some here bizarrely argue that the Tories are identical to Labour and that a Labour victory would be no worse than a Tory victory.”
HS2, Net Zero Bollocks, Drag Queen Hour for toddlers, record high immigration (legal and illegal), lawfare on anything outside the left consensus, Spaffing 400bn up against the wall of a case of the sniffles, Record high government spending and taxation, trampling on the freedoms of the entire nation, constantly banning something else, allowing Islamists and terrorist sympathisers to rule the roost for weeks on end in London, doing nothing to stop Extinction Rebellion et al, yeah, I’m definitely voting Tory this time around /sarc
@Theophrastus (2066) – “3. Vote Tory”
So what do they have to do to lose your vote? Isn’t their current record enough?
The argument that we have to vote Tory because Labour will be worse is the argument that we have to eat a dog shit sandwich because the alternative is a double dog shit sandwich. Either way we’re eating dog shit, and permanently if we keep voting Tory.
So in fact we should vote for the double dog shit sarnie on the basis maybe, just maybe it will force someone to come up with the stunning idea that perhaps we should offer the electorate sandwiches without any dog shit at all in them……..
Slightly OT but relevant in the sense that the electorate need to be given what they want, good’n’ard (from Google translate because I’m too lazy to do it)
“ Today I drove for the first time in a car that had the new speed warning system (ISA) installed in accordance with EU guidelines, which will be mandatory in all new cars from July. And what can I say: drivers are in for a disaster.
The system is quite harsh. When the speed limit was 50, the annoying sound started at 53 km/h.
One problem: Neither the traffic sign recognition nor the maps are error-free. The annoying sound practically forces drivers to stick to the limit set by the system. This can even be dangerous: if the speed limit is actually 50, but the system detects a 30 and urges the driver to do so, the traffic will be slowed down and accidents will occur.
You can switch the system off, but it switches back on every time the engine is turned off. This is actually required by the directive.
I was not able to test how the system works on the highway when there is no speed limit.
The whole regulation is completely impractical and will get on drivers’ nerves the more cars with this forced setting are in circulation. Incidentally, this regulation also makes small cars more expensive, making it antisocial. How could the Commission suggest something like this? We urgently need to put a stop to these excessive controls.”
https://x.com/maxmordhorst/status/1797047779916710304?s=61&t=VX5cJ0-osgn_JSz7j-uowQ
And in other news EV sales in Germany are down yet again amidst complaints f high electricity prices.
@Theo, June 2, 2024 at 10:15 am
Sensible and what I will reluctantly do
If Labour win and extend vote to 16yo, maybe even 14 as SNP want we’ll never remove them. Even if we did mange to, Blair’s plan will have been completed and Parliament will be a toothless talking shop like EU’s
@steve
Lynn
Most people understand that climate change is a serious issue, and that over time carbon emissions will have to be reduced
He’s got form for that, Gets it into all pieces in any way he can
Everyone agrees that carbon emissions need to be reduced
Really Mr Lynn? Provide proof, I certainly don’t, nor does my mother, brother, cousins, friends and millions more like those on Daily Sceptic, TCW, TW, GB News, commentors on your piece…
He’s probably on payroll of The Gate’s dept at Telegraph same as their Global Health liars
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