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And about a replacement:
Even if they were to replace him as the Democrat nominee, there would be huge practical and financial issues from joining the race so late.
Only Mr Biden currently has the war chest to run ads, hold events, and hire staff for a major campaign.
That’s a point, isn’t it? A lot of the money’s gone to “Joe Biden for Pres” not “Whichever Dem for Pres”.
Difficult.
Pfft
Just draw a moustache on the posters and hey presto it’s Hillary .
What surprises me is that it all seems a terrible shock to some when we knew way back in 2020 what the score was. I wonder if he’ll ‘fall off his perch’ before the election but perhaps whoever really runs the Dems think that the KH alternative is worse.
Ah, but who controls the funds?
I see Murphy’s latest blog post calls Trump a rapist. No alleged qualifier in there.
Would be lovely if another damages payout were extracted from the Gnome of Ely.
Couldn’t that Rashee Sanook replace him? He’s equally committed to porous borders, and apparently will be moving the America very soon.
Surely this means the VP nominee is the real candidate.
“to America”, obvsly.
So, same basic problem as 1968 again then.
Expect riots on the streets of Chicago come conference time.
…again.
‘I see Murphy’s latest blog post calls Trump a rapist. No alleged qualifier in there.’
That’s a brave position to go to print with. It would be a shame if there was anyone with a connection to Farage who could forward this on to his mate for his consideration.
This wasn’t a debate, it was a medical emergency – the president resembling an animated corpse, his voice so weak it sounded like the whisper of leaves around an ancient tomb.
Lol, don’t worry Joe. It’s a dry heat.
Here’s one full Biden quote on healthcare: “Making sure we are able to make every single solitary person, er, eligible for what I have been able to do with, uh, Covid – excuse me, with dealing with everything we’ve been able to do with, er… Look, if… we’ve finally beat Medicare.”
Not as snappy as “your mother sucks cocks in Hell”, but you get the general idea.
‘A lot of the money’s gone to “Joe Biden for Pres”’
So? Names can be changed if necessary.
As with almost everything else these days this is one part hilarious, one part fascinating, and one part terrifying.
The terrifying bit is that anyone with a brain and working eyeballs knows that Biden has been senile for the last 5+ years (it’s why he barely campaigned last time), that by extension he is not actually in charge and in fact unknown, unelected, unaccountable people are in charge, that they stole the last election, and that the media is in their pockets and that they know that we know all of this and they don’t give a fuck.
The media is key and is the actual enemy in all of this.
I expect that they will attempt to parachute someone else in – I’ve said before I had cash on Big Mike at 40-1, and s/he is now at 12s, but I think Newsom is more likely, and it doesn’t matter a flying fuck about the campaign cash if you have the Justice Dept and, to repeat myself, the media, on a dog lead, and you can plausibly fix the election.
All they need to ‘win’ the ‘election’ is enough plausibility that armed rednecks and others won’t finally say, fuck this, this is some bullshit.
With Biden, the polls were getting ridiculous. It was going to be too big to steal.
They needed to ditch Biden, but they needed to do so in a way that made it seem organic – by public demand, rather than some internal party machinations.
Now they have that excuse.
They ditch the stary-eyed, incoherent, vacant, drooling, ‘my son died in Eyerak’, daughter-showering, hair-sniffing, you-ain’t-black, Corn Pop-beating, leg-hair-standing, multiple-swimming-pool-lifesaving, corrupt-recipient-of-millions-from Russia-China-and-Ukraine nephew-of-a-cannibal-supper six-handicapper, and bring in Newsom.
The media go wild for Newsom – ‘strong record in government’, ‘safe pair of hands’, ‘articulate and likeable’ – and Newsom goes to the polls say 5% down in the swing states.
That’s close enough to the margin of error that there’s no actual revolution when they fiddle with the voting machines, ship in thousands of fake ballot, and get illegals to vote for him.
Is my wild conspiracy theory.
This keeps getting better.
Biden has always been a complete low-life and sufficiently dumb that even in his relatively coherent distant past when not marching at Selma, driving a fourteen wheeler, representing the Navy at football, mixing it with corn pop or showering with his daughter (clue: only one of these is true) he somehow thought it was a good idea to plagiarise Neil Kinnock. However, he really loves money so one final mega “donation” would probably be enough to make him stand down after which he can pardon his equally worthless son while also pre-emptively pardoning himself for far worse felonies than Trump has ever been found guilty of.
Then the fun really starts. Kamala is charmless, has an even more annnoying cackle than the hildabeast, and will cling to “her rights” like a limpet. I’m not convinced money will shift her voluntarily.
If the DNC opts for anyone other that Mrs Obama they will get lambasted for racism, sexism and isms that haven’t even been though of yet.
The fact that the front runner is Gavin Newson, who admittedly has great hair (don’t underestimate it), can string a sentence together and lies like a champion, gives the US media an interesting problem. How to push him for three months without mentioning California.
Damn.
Interested beat me to it!
Well Boris Johnson could step up. He might have to ask politely for his passport back first, but no reason he couldn’t be the first man to be both prime minister and president.
To be a bit more polite, it is not beyond imagination that an awful lot of financing of various descriptions intended for particular purposes surrounding Mr Biden’s political activities have been used for adjacent purposes.
BTW, to bite the hand that feeds, essentially none of the drugs for this disease work.
If you’ve got the right candidate the amount of money they have doesn’t matter, or more precisely it doesn’t matter how much money the wrong candidate has, they still won’t win, as Hillary found out.
I haven’t seen anything recently but there were polls stating that anyone but Biden beats Trump, well maybe not Kamala, and therein lies the real problem: how to ditch Biden without getting Kamala.
Interested – All they need to ‘win’ the ‘election’ is enough plausibility that armed rednecks and others won’t finally say, fuck this, this is some bullshit.
And then what?
This is why I hate the Tories so much. Once you’re disenfranchised, you don’t have any good options.
Look at their tagline. It’s “Let’s go Joe”.
Are they unwittingly conceding defeat, trying and failing to pwn “Let’s go Brandon”, or did some innocent marketing genius really come up with this?
@BiND
If you’ve got the right candidate the amount of money they have doesn’t matter, or more precisely it doesn’t matter how much money the wrong candidate has, they still won’t win, as Hillary found out.
They are not going to make that mistake again – they didn’t make it in 2020, after all.
@John
Damn.
Interested beat me to it!
I can’t claim any particularly novel insight, John!
. . . essentially none of the drugs for this disease work.
Especially if they are not administered. And that is the basis of my conspiracy variant:
This debate was way early, perhaps unprecedentedly so even for American election cycles. It gives the Dems enough time ( four full months) to parachute someone in and get them recognised. So, shove Joe out there against Trump with enough drugs to stop him urinating on the debate floor but no where near the amount he had for his fiery State of the Union. Joe flounders so much that even he can see it, and off he trots.
Maybe this is why Jill tried that bizarrely desperate consolation show, simply to counter-persuade puddled Joe that he did okay really. She seems very keen for him to hang on. So she’s the “Let’s Go Joe” camp, and last night was a move by the “Let’s go, Joe” forces.
It does make one wish the government of the USA had more credibility than that of Bolivia.
Interested has nailed it. All the Dems need is plausible deniability on the election fraud front. Biden was getting into the territory of even the most ardent Democrat thinking ‘That don’t make sense!’ if he pulled off a stunning victory in November all the while being way behind in the polls and having lost loads of voter demographics that voted for him last time. A new candidate (doesn’t matter who) will make the ‘Well its different because we don’t know who would have voted for Newsom last time, and he’s obviously attracted a lot of people who don’t normally vote, and what are you going to do about it anyway?’ argument virtually uncounterable.
Who is likelier to be assassinated before the election, Trump or Biden?
William Hill is offering 30 to 1 against both happening. (I made that up.)
Worked for Trudeau, to our misfortune.
Interested
Spot on – does make those who denied there was any possibility of election fraud in 2020 and who lambasted anyone querying how a braindead zombie got a record number of votes look kind of stupid, of course.
Last night’s debate just moved more people from the “Let’s Go Joe” camp to the “Let’s Go Brandon” camp.
Interesting.
Apparently the moderation system here doesn’t approve of calling the president by certain NASCAR driver’s name.
MG – (if you ever see this)
It’s not you, it’s the commenting system that’s putting everything into moderation.
My registered Democrat friends have been insisting for years that Biden wasn’t senile (despite the evidence of their lyin’ eyes and ears), but “he’s always sufferer from a stammer, which still makes his speech kind of halting from time to time” – I think this was the official Democrat line. I don’t wish to rub salt into their wounds, but I’ll be really interested to hear their views now.