On Thursday, Barack Obama let it be known that he felt Joe Biden should seriously consider standing down in order to protect the party and his legacy.
The polls were moving away from him,
If they thought he was going to win they’d have propped his corpose up to do so. He wasn’t, so over the side. It’s the winning power, not the good of the country…….
I have to admit, though, that I can’t understand how the Dems thought that they were going to get away with this.
Brandon has been on the mental and physical ropes for a few years. The supine media can only keep the pretence up for so long. What were they thinking putting the old guy into the ring with Trump a second time ?
I suppose that the ‘real’ power in the White House belonngs not to some shadowy cabal pulling the President’s strings but to Mrs Biden.
Maybe they have calculated that while you can get away with one statistically implausible result two elections running might be a stretch.
So their least bad option is to get an unpopular and probably unelectable incumbent candidate out of the way and rely on the judiciary and deep state, aided by senate and house RINOs, to hamstring Trump 47 the same way they largely succeeded with 45. At this late stage to shove Kamala aside in favour of a white bloke would not go down well (no sniggering please).
How come Brandon’s not been seen since the announcement
As a now seasoned conspiracy theorist who has long believed Joe was Barry’s 4th term I found the “dispute” quite amusing. Fake Barry arguing with Real Barry as to who was able to run. Stagger. Crawl. Whatever…
What’s the nearest US equivalent to the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change? They’ll decide.
Maybe they have calculated that while you can get away with one statistically implausible result two elections running might be a stretch.
Before you go too far down your conspiracy rabbit holes just remember Trump has never been more popular than unpopular, even now he’s at -12%.
https://x.com/ratlpolicy/status/1815135199010672768
All the Dems need to do is find someone even remotely plausible to the average American and put them up against the oldest presidential candidate in American history.
Oh wait, that’s obviously a legacy media conspiracy to make people believe he’s unpopular ….
Weekend at Bernies 3 – Joe Comes to Town
I’ll go to my grave believing that Covid-19 was intentionally released by the Democrats in general and Nancy Pelosi in particular (among others) to destroy the chances of the reelection of DJT.
How ironic then is it that part of the downfall of Joe Biden’s presidency was due to him ALLEGEDLY becoming infected with Covid?
Did he really catch Covid? Most people including myself think probably not. It was just a good excuse to squander him away.
But still…
I think we’ve all come to the realization that there’s nothing Democrats won’t do to stay in power.
@BiND
So how have you got Starmer as PM? Or the French have the situation they have. We’re in an era of disillusioned electorates. No politicians are popular. But some are less unpopular than others.
My take is that Trump has made a shrewd move with Vance. They’re going to run as a team. Age & experience plus youth & enthusiasm. Which negates Trump’s age.
Against which the Dems have Harris who’s spent the last 4 years being sidelined & who? Anyone who’s more capable than Harris & she’ll look like the President in name only candidate.
SadButMadLad:
“How come Brandon’s not been seen since the announcement?”
He’s in a mock-up of the Oval Office, signing bits of paper and doing talks to cameras that are switched off.
According to the New York Times, Mr Biden called two of his most senior aides, Steve Ricchetti and Mike Donilon, to his home in Rehoboth Beach on Saturday afternoon, where he has been self-isolating after contracting Covid-19.
The three men worked on Mr Biden’s letter dropping out of the race “far into the night,” the Times reported.
And if you believe that, you’re gullible enough to vote for whoever the New York Times will be backing next.
BinD – All the Dems need to do is find someone even remotely plausible to the average American and put them up against the oldest presidential candidate in American history
Somebody should have told them that before they burnt all that political capital on illegal special prosecutors, getting Big Tech to ban Trump and his supporters, and then attempting to murder Trump at a rally.
All they needed to do was run Kamala.
It’s not possible to go online and avoid seeing sneering, denigrating articles about Trump. So, a generation that spends most of its waking hours online is not going to think highly of him. Everyone in some way connected to tech has their own favourite story of how they saw him eating a baby a couple of weeks ago. That’s the way modern politics works. Barry O’Bama is a God on Earth. Trump is the Devil.
Subtle, innit?
The clue is in the resignation note, which literally puts party before country.
bis,
So how have you got Starmer as PM?
He didn’t have to be popular, just less unpopular or incompetent than the Tories, an easy bar to clear, hence the Ming Vase strategy.
I don’t disagree with the the rest of your analysis, I’m just pointing out that if Trump loses it doesn’t mean the election was fixed or put the other way, that the only way Trump loses is for the Dems to rig the election.
As an aside, I agree Vance is a shrewd move and I was quite looking forward to the bloodbath that would have been Vance v Harris in the VP debates.
A man who is ‘self isolating’ calls two other men to his house to help him draft a letter?
It’s an almighty swiz: Biden was a husk during the last presidential campaign and has become progressively (of course!) ever more hollowed-out. The party machine, its donors and the media that enabled all of this don’t deserve to be shot of him now at the eleventh hour. At least they’re now saddled with the unburdened Kamala for their pains.
Such larks!
They might argue that the best interests of the country are served by not having a cult leader in charge. Or even that, maybe, when two guys go on stage and say ‘I only want to be President so that guy isn’t’ giving voters the option to choose someone else is in the best interests of the country.
Seems a bit off for the people saying Biden is too old to be President to do anything other than say ‘yeah, it took a while but this is the right thing so fair play’. Just let it go and move on to telling us why Harris is evil but that’s nothing to do with her race or gender.. or just that she’s a DEI candidate.. or somehow both of those things.
Trump, of course, is all about the best interests of the country and not at all about staying out of jail and trying to mend his huge glass ego after he got well beat. Legit great photo from the assassination attempt, mind… nobody should claim the guy doesn’t have some big brass bollocks on him. Shame the shooter was just a garden variety angry white guy and not one single person will change their vote as a result of it all. It’s going to be close.
I still don’t think Kamala will be the nominee, despite the apparent transfer of power by acclamation. If Dementia Joe had died, then maybe, but I still think the likelihood of Democratic shenanigans between now and the Chicago to knock her off the pedestal and put someone more electable on it.
Kamala might have become more electable than Biden given the car crash behaviour of recent weeks since the debate, but it’s still not clear that she would win against Trump even with the dead voting Democrat and various ballot box stuffing antics.
I think the Dems are giving Kamala a very short breathing space (effectively 1 month), to see if polls improve now that she is “presumptive nominee”, if they don’t, I suspect she’ll announce her withdrawal just before the DNC in August.
Biden’s presidency lasts until January 2025. Still six months to go.
He’s not fit for 2025, but AOK for 2024.
Finding a new and progressive disease to say he’s suffering from is going to be a difficult lie to tell.
I think the dems may regret not invoking the 25th amendment.
There’s always the Arkancide option.
But then I believe Harris (as incumbent) automatically becomes their candidate.
Shame the shooter was just a garden variety angry white guy and not one single person will change their vote as a result of it all. It’s going to be close
Nah, it’s not going to be close.
The sniper aimed at Trump and took out the Democrats.
Has Biden effectively been fired because he couldn’t even carry off a simple assassination? (asked no newspaper ever.)
I would support a Harris – Newsom ticket.
BinD – All the Dems need to do is find someone even remotely plausible to the average American and put them up against the oldest presidential candidate in American history
Biden drew support from some fairly conservative voters who were sick of Trump’s behavior and who thought Biden would be fairly normal and grant some peace and quiet. Instead he too went down the transform America rabbit hole in a nation where about half don’t want to be transformed. This is both why so many on the left think he was a surprisingly good president and also why he was going to lose.
Now the Dems have their chance to run a real wing nut who might have a shot at two terms. I assume it will be Harris, but if not they’ll find someone equally distasteful to the other half of the country, and this time that half knows they won’t be getting a president who might provide some peace and quiet.
Everyone apart from Harris herself knows she’s not up to the job, and that includes democrat voters.
Trouble is, there’s $100 million pledged to Biden / Harris and she’s not going to surrender the money and go quietly.
There’s more fun and games to be played in the next few weeks.
I like that all the Dem shenanigans make them vulnerable to legal challenges in various states. Whoever gets the nomination might not be on the Dem ticket in every race.
I guess they had to wait until Kennedy was out of the way as well, not sure now he’s declared as an independent if he can throw his hat back in for the nomination.
One issue that whoever is nominated may face though is a potential split in their vote with people unhappy they didn’t have a chance to vote for Kennedy in a proper primary refusing to switch their vote to the new appointed nominee.
Harris is easily up to the job. It is just sexist and racist to be against Harris in my view. Trump is not up to the job. Even the VP pick Trump saw Trump as an American Hitler.
Here is the link I added to another post
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/16/jd-vance-political-views-trump
Trump is not up to the job.
– Harris is easily up to the job.
Can you provide a blow by blow account? So far it seems more down than up.
A story making the rounds: “The Trump shooter was registered as a Republican, but he will vote for the Democrats in November”.