So too is Trump, but then he is not a candidate to be US President. He is seeking to stage a coup to overthrow the US system of government whatever the result, all based on a neo-fascist personality cult intended to deliver an autocratic, Christian-nationalist, anarcho-capitalist regime
I thought the lithium price had fallen this past 18 months?
Both autocratic and anarchistic?
Heโs already been President and somehow heโs not made himself King. Clearly falling down on the job ๐
Frothing loons and incoherent halfwits on the left seem to forget that we already had a Trump presidency, in which he did nothing dramatic.
“Frothing loons and incoherent halfwits on the left seem to forget that we already had a Trump presidency, in which he did nothing dramatic.”
To be fair, if I’d been treated the way Trump has, I’d definitely be seeking bloody vengeance on my enemies in round 2. So round 1 is not really a fair comparison to use to determine what Trump might do this time. The Left know what they’ve done to him over the last 8 years, and are now worried about retribution coming their way, and rightly so.
I agree with Jim. He has been subjected to a level of attack which has almost never been seen outside of a totalitarian dictatorship, consisting of industrial scale voter fraud, rigged legal cases put through a wholly corrupt judiciary, a level of personal defamation by the media that would have made Goebbels blush.
I know his supporters are keen to get revenge on the swamp that put their man through this. From Murphy’s perspective I think he is concerned about justifiable retribution being carried out in the UK. Leaving aside the obvious differences in the political climate, I don’t see any equivalent to Trump in the UK.
I also find it very interesting that he finds a ‘Christian-nationalist dictatorship’ so worrying but seems completely comfortable with a 40 or so strong band of Islamo fascist MPs in the UK Parliament, which is likely to increase exponentially next time round.
@V_P.
It’s hard to understand his aversion to the Christianity. Both (all?) US political parties have made a point of ostentatiously genuflecting to the Acrobat et al since the creation of the Republic. It’s an essential part of both the Declaration of Independence & the Constitution & a key aspect of the swearing in of a president. The Biden administration has been the first one in US (& Confederate) history not to embrace the custom enthusiastically. And didn’t Biden make his supposed Catholicism one of his selling points? The US is a God bothering nation. It almost defines it. And you can trace that right back to the original Dissenter colonists.
Contrast with the French Republic which has done its best to esponge religion out of the political sphere.
the French Republic which has done its best to esponge religion out of the political sphere
How’s that working out for them? The French may wish to ignore religion, but it might not ignore them, inshallah.
Let me be clear, I do not know the answer to that question. Whether it is Kamala Harris, I cannot be sure. I know her knowledge of economics appears pretty weak.
Candidly, lol
What I do know is that whoever gets the task will have the hopes of much of the world resting on them.
This is a bug, not a feature. We shouldn’t know or care very much about internal US politics, but their government is the world police and overly involved in everyone else’s business.
The man’s living in the fecking Fens, isn’t he? He got no idea of his local history? Why there’s a US Boston?
I know her knowledge of economics appears pretty weak
Her knowledge of blow jobs is reputed to be extensive. Maybe she’ll be able to felate Christine Lagarde & Ursula von der Leyen or even the Chinese panda look-alike into some sort of trade deals. Can’t see many other people being up for the task. Trump’s proved to have better taste.
I don’t know what Murphy’s smoking, I don’t approve it, and I want some.
Howโs that working out for them?
The French have actually banned the burkha & hijab from many sectors of public life. Better than the UK has managed. UK enthusiastically prostrates itself to Islam. And they do actually have RN. UK electorate doesn’t have the stomach for that sort of politics. Brits are basically curtain twitchers.
On Jan 6th Trump showed how little respect he has for democracy.
I DO NOT SEE HOW ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR TRUMP.
TDS is real, kids. Just Say No.
I hope we get more of this type of diplomacy in Trump round 2:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIhP1k_NKIk
And allegedly, also during round 1, when Putin asked Trump what he would do if Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump said “drop a bomb on Moscow”.
What a guy.
@Addolff
If that video is true that is cool. That is how you play poker. Play the man not the deck.
@ Toledo Zaragoza
You are sadly deficient in imagination.
I have disliked and distrusted Donald since before most people [most people still alive on this earth] were born but I have no difficulty in imagining how some people can vote for him.
Out of interest, I’ve driven Toledo to Zaragoza. Or Cuidad Real > Zara wihch amounts to much the same thing. At this time of the year, 400 klicks of bad road. And there isn’t much when you get there. You wondered why you bothered.
“On Jan 6th Trump showed how little respect he has for democracy.”
How touching (or pathetically naive) that you think the US (and indeed the entire West) is a democracy any more. Is not the current debacle involving Biden not enough evidence for you? The democratically elected President (probably, who knows?) who was overwhelmingly voted for as candidate for re-election by his party just 4 months ago has been bundled out of his candidacy inside a few weeks by the power brokers behind the throne. The very same people who told us just those few months ago that he was A1 fit and ready to serve another 4 years.
As Johnny Rotten said, ‘Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?’
I DO NOT SEE HOW ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR TRUMP.
The blind cannot see. Details at 11.
Two posts from Murphy on the same day.
all based on a neo-fascist personality cult intended to deliver an autocratic, Christian-nationalist, anarcho-capitalist regime
Richard Murphy says:
July 22 2024 at 10:43 am
Thge alternative is for the state to buy housing at kncok down prices after capping rents
Bravefart –
Chances are he used the term “anarcho-capitalist” because he thought it would make him sound like an intellectual.
As BF points out – the mask does drop sometimes…
Nigel Hargreaves says:
July 22 2024 at 10:11 am
Another way is to build more social housing. At the moment there is very little available which means that private landlords have no competition other than with each other. I used to own two one bed flats which I let out for ยฃ625 a month in 2014, but the estate agent tells me that they are now getting ยฃ900 for them and thereโs no shortage of applicants.
And do away with Housing Associations, too, which are able to jack up โrentsโ by charging what they like for service charges. A local one which I have investigated is supposed to be non-profit making but its accounts show large annual โOperating Surplusesโ and meanwhile the CEO takes home a quarter of a million pounds a year. I donโt suppose a local authority Housing Officer would get anything like that.
+1
Reply
Richard Murphy says:
July 22 2024 at 10:43 am
The alternative is for the state to buy housing at knock down prices after capping rents
+2
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Nigel Hargreaves says:
July 22 2024 at 11:03 am
Iโm not sure I agree with that. That buys into the perception that all landlords are very rich people who make a killing out of extracting large amounts of rent from their tenants. But a lot are very ordinary middle-earners who are simply using property as a way of investing money they have saved or inherited. Iโve certainly never regarded myself as rich, and used an inheritance for what, I hoped was wisely, by putting it into property rather than the Stock Exchange. So forcing people like me to sell up at what might well be a loss is not good IMO.
+3
Richard Murphy says:
July 22 2024 at 11:45 am
Hang on โ I am saying capping increases at inflation
How does that force sales at a loss?
+1
John Draper says:
July 22 2024 at 11:18 am
The state should deliberately cause a fall in prices and then capture assets cheaply?
And you call others fascist!
+3
Richard Murphy says:
July 22 2024 at 11:43 am
But youโre entirely happy to take all the upsides of the massive state subsidy for rents in universal credit without expecting questions to be asked or control to be sought?
Politely, stop being stupid
If someone told me to stop being stupid not sure I’d respond favourably even if they were polite..
So they’ve managed to force out a sitting head of government and his apparent replacement is an extremely oleaginous and unlikable rich Indian on the make who nobody wants.
Hey, I’ve seen this one before!
Today, Steve wins the internet.
He is seeking to stage a coup to overthrow the US system of government …..
I think he has already achieved that. The US system of government is a two horse race between the Republican and Democrat parties. Outsiders like Ross Perot, who had two good shots at running for President, couldn’t get anywhere. Then along comes outsider Trump who was not fundamentally part of, or subservient to the Republican machine. He had flip flopped with his allegiance between the parties in the past. He chose to run as a Republican, but he could “conceivably” have run as a Democrat. I see him as an independent who was savvy enough to take the Republican party and use it to get him to President rather than running as an independent and facing the costly battle of fighting both parties together.
Oh FFS, I’ve just found out that Kamala has another hobby apart from dishing out BJs.
Ms Harris, who was once the attorney general for California, spoke of an unusual passion, declaring: โI love Venn diagrams. I really do, I love Venn diagrams. Itโs just something about those three circles and the analysis about where there is the intersection, right?โ
A passion shared with a certain irascible, repellent, fascist resident in Ely. Whodathunkit?
The very same people who told us just those few months ago that he was A1 fit and ready to serve another 4 years.
Never mind months, they were saying it a couple of weeks ago.
V_P: good work!!
Steve:
We shouldnโt know or care very much about internal US politics, but their government is the world police and overly involved in everyone elseโs business.
Would you prefer Xi as the world police? Or no world police and endless conflicts/wars?
BiS
The French have actually banned the burkha & hijab from many sectors of public life. Better than the UK has managed.
France is a more authoritarian country than the UK. I am all in favour of making life less comfortable for muslims in the UK – eg closing all islamic ‘schools’, banning foreign imams, requiring all preaching in mosques to be in English, ramping up security checks on mosques – in the hope they will migrate and fewer will come here. However, banning the burka/hijab is a step too far: the state should not determine what its citizens wear. The burka/hijab are a symbol of allegiance or submission to the theocratic tyranny that is Islam. We need to discourage Islam, not clothing choices. Banning the burka/hijab would only create more Islamic resentment.
@Theo: The hijab in public office is banned in France because it is an express and direct exhibit of a specific religion. And such expressions are forbidden for any religion in France for any public servant.
It’s not discrimination, despite the caterwauling, it’s equal treatment.
And France is, by far, not the only nation that has banned the hijab in public office for exactly this reason: No Exceptions.
The Banning of the Burka had quite another reason, since it ultimately is a clear cultural expression of the inferiority and subservience of females to males.
France, like many european nations, has that bit of equality put down in their actual constitutions.
So again: No Exceptions.
The fact that they interfered with identification and security, and were actually used that way to pull Shenanigans was a bonus, since that cut the discusssion short, but ultimately the things are illegal because they directly violate most of the constitutions we have in western Europe.
John77 – if I wanted the opnion of a fart I would have broken wind.
Jim – Biden is still in power, he has not been dethroned. He is just not standing again because of questions aboit his age, health, and chances of winning . Harris is a good choice.
Dennis, Pointing Out The Obvious – I am not blind. You have been brainwashed.
Quote from Trump.
‘Has anyone seen โSilence of the Lambsโ? The late, great Hannibal Lecter. Heโd love to have you for dinner”
According to the Guardian Vance saw Trump as a new Hitler. That is the VP pick of Trump saw him as a new Hitler.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/16/jd-vance-political-views-trump
Vance so said of Trump
I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place
WOW JUST WOW.
” That is the VP pick of Trump saw him as a new Hitler.”
Everyone’s the new Hitler these days darling, I am, you are, we all are. Every single one of us has a yearning for a pencil mustache and some lebensraum……calling people ‘the new Hitler’ is just the new version of ‘racist’. Not sure where you’re going to go next after painting everyone you don’t like as a new Uncle Dolfo, how about ‘the new Stalin’ or ‘the new Mao’? After all they were far bigger killers…….
Jim.-.Hitler killed tens of millions. Including mass slaughter of Jewish women and children in death camps..His creepy NAZI evil monsters performed sick experiments on twins. Hitler ttied to wipe.out the Jewish race. Hitler was the most evil monster in history.
So when Vance described Trump as the new Hitler, then that is a dangerous prediction.. Even the Trump fans see him as a dark evil force.
And as for anti-British views. Vance described the UK as thr first Muslim country to get nukes.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/16/trump-running-mate-jd-vance-uk-first-islamist-country-nuclear-weapon
WTF
Arnald, is that you?
@TZ : I think it’s well established that Hitler was a wrong’un. It’s to our eternal shame that parts of the British Empire who you’d think would haven Jews actually turned them in to be exterminated, not knowingly perhaps, but they knew that they were being corralled for something bad. For that happened in the Channel Islands in the early 1940s. Humans can be really bad. But they can be absolutely awful when the State forbids them from bearing arms because they cannot act on their moral sentiments, son.
And you would follow the Tre Professori Appian way of granting more power to the State? Tutto Nello Stato.
Every accusation by the left is a confession. Applies to Murphy and Toledo both (not Arnald, Dennis; even more absurd.)
โ Everyoneโs the new Hitler these days darling, I am, you are, we all are. Every single one of us has a yearning for a pencil mustache and some lebensraumโฆโฆcalling people โthe new Hitlerโ is just the new version of โracistโ. โ
Indeed.
When I was young the word fuck really was offensive and if youโd used it in public rooms in my fatherโs pub youโd have been barred and you certainly wouldnโt have heard women using it except for some of the roughest areas of town. Similarly, nobody was accused of being Hitler because it had real meaning, I donโt even remember Idi Amin being referred to as a Hitler.
Now the word fuck is just a meaningless filler word or at most a modal particle and nobody but the most sensitive would be offended by its use. Similarly calling someone Hitler is just as meaningless or can be taken as a a signifier of the users lack of intellectual argument.
Biden is still in power, he has not been dethroned. He is just not standing again because of questions aboit his age, health, and chances of winning . Harris is a good choice.
I’m not sure Biden has ever been in power, merely in office.
And “questions about his age and health” LOL. He’s been obviously senile for years, but the Putin/Zelensky confusion was the last straw for his puppeteers, who seem to reckon Harris will be similarly easy to ‘guide’ if she is elected.
Which seems unlikely, as this “good choice” is so utterly hopeless and charmless that they’ve preferred to make poor old Joe, dithering and wobbling, face the limelight instead during her time in office.
Blind – You don’t seem to see that it was Trumps on VP pick who called him Hitler. That is worrying.
Chris- IT WAS NOT THE LEFT THAT CALLED TRUMP THE NEW HITLER IT WAS HIS OWN VP PICK.
Bongo – The state taxing the rich to give money to the poor or punishing sex offenders, is not the same as the state slaughtering millions of Jews. You are doing a false Dichotomy of claiming only the left abuse power, and claiming all state power is the same morally.
Slavery happened in the early USA when the state had minimal control over the economy.
Millions died in the potato famine during free market justidication for the desths.
What matters is morality. You could have human rights abuses by a government with a small state, and a free society in a state with lots of economic control.
Human rights abuses by a government with a small state sounds like a contradictory claim on reality to me. You can run away from a small state that doesn’t have the power to stop you leaving.
For the record the Corn Laws were repealed after the potato famine.
Harris called Biden a rapist and a racist before she was picked as VP and is now in running for nomination
Rivals say nasty things about each, but being politicians are happy to throw those comments away at the sniff of any advantages.
All you are doing is saying Vance and Trump are politicians which we already knew
Vance said of Trump “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler,” he said privately to a friend on Facebook in 2016″
‘a free society in a state with lots of economic control.’
The obvious example is serfdom. The aristos were certainly free to rob, rape and murder whoever they pleased.
And today we have ‘you will eat bugs and have nothing and be happy’. I’m still not interested.
But of course if you expect to be lord of the manor, it’d be ok.
The corn laws were a protectionist right wing law to help the rich. Free market extremism supported the corn laws. The poor died due to extremes of capitalism.
Boganboy – So if you are against extreme state control then what do you think of Vanceโs view โthat conservatives should employ the taxation power to โseizeโ the assets of โwoke, leftistโ nonprofits such as the Ford Foundation and universities such as Harvard.’
Let me point out some confusion on my views.
I do not support communism, I support a balanced centre left economy with freedom and liberty, but with a morally good government.
Meanwhile Vance is the worst of all wolds for right and left freedom supporters. He is a authoritarian who supports a man he compared to Hitler and Nixon.
France is a more authoritarian country than the UK. I am all in favour of making life less comfortable for muslims in the UK โ eg closing all islamic โschoolsโ, banning foreign imams, requiring all preaching in mosques to be in English, ramping up security checks on mosques โ in the hope they will migrate and fewer will come here. However, banning the burka/hijab is a step too far: the state should not determine what its citizens wear. The burka/hijab are a symbol of allegiance or submission to the theocratic tyranny that is Islam. We need to discourage Islam, not clothing choices. Banning the burka/hijab would only create more Islamic resentment.
Theo. Grikath has already dealt with the burqa/hijab in France issue far better than I could. I can only add that if it causes Islamic resentment, no doubt that’s the point. Maghrebi’s are generally detested in France & they don’t make any secret of it
*Maghrebi – All purpose & widely used abusive term for people of N. African origin. “Racist” is not an insult in France.
As for French authoritarianism, like most Brits you know SFA about France (Or likely anywhere else.) I’ve lived in both countries & these days UK’s far more authoritarian. Yes it has a lot of rules & regulations (the UK doesn’t?). But if you’re polite (& politeness is virtually ubiquitous in France) there’s usually someone who will help you negotiate them or even bend them or just ignore them for you. It’s a country where public officials are more often on the side of the public rather than the State. Anywhere but Paris, anyway. And most French are inclined to disown the capital.
Take the attitude to parking, for instance. Mostly you’re free to park unless doing so will actually cause congestion. Where parking is contested, they have the excellent Blue Zone system. You put a thing looks like a disabled permit in your windscreen. You set your time on the little rotary disk & you’re free to park for whatever period the Zone allows. Where you do need to pay, the charges are reasonable. Last time I parked in our town square, for the 1st hour it was free for an hour from 09:00 on the prepay. For the 2nd it was 50 cents. It then starts rising steeply until a whole day was 6โฌ. But parking’s free between 13;00-15:00, the lunch period & after 19:00. The last time I was UK single & double yellow lines were everywhere. You even see them miles from any habitation. I couldn’t even leave a car parked outside my own house from 1:00-12:00. Heaven knows what parking fines are now. They were ยฃ30 if paid promptly, or ยฃ60 if not or contested. If you pay to park you’re taking part in a rigidly enforced local authority revenue raising scheme. Needing to leave the car for 20 minutes in the town centre multi-storey cost me ยฃ5.
Oh & of course the cruncher. In France, like here, one can own a handgun providing one gets a permit. UK? Apparently your government doesn’t trust you although it does little about criminals having them.
@ Toledo Zaragoza
It is not true that millions died in the potato famine, largely because Ireland only had 8 million inhabitants. A bit under 1 million died due to the famine and related illnesses.
The British Government did act to relieve the efects of the famine but were hampered by the simultaneous potato crop failures throughout Europe as almost all European countries were hit by the blight accidentally imported from America. Actions included the abolition of the Corn Laws to reduce the price of imported grain, which cost Peel, then Prime Minister, his political career.
The Corn Laws were not free market – absolutely the contrary: they were a restriction imposed on the market. The poor did not die because of them because they were repealed so that fewer of the poor would die.
You are so consistently wrong that you are either a troll or stupid or both.
Thankee, Dennis.
Theo – Would you prefer Xi as the world police? Or no world police and endless conflicts/wars?
Nobody needs to be GloboCop, and the extent of routine US Gov interference in the domestic affairs of other countries is unprecedented by the standards of previous hegemons.
So, educational opportunities for Afghan girls have nothing to do with the US State Department, nor does the criminal justice system in El Salvador, nor should they be hectoring African countries about LGBTQ, or sanctioning the entire country of Georgia for implementing the same laws on foreign lobbyists that the US has had on its books for nearly a century.
Imagine your typical crap, dysfunctional, corrupt, fiscally incompetent, but smugly woke local British council. That’s Washington DC that is, except they have busybodies with clipboards in over 200 countries. They can’t help themselves, they keep meddling in things that are none of their business, needlessly making enemies while failing at the things that supposedly are their business.
Such as keeping the sea lanes open to trade. One of the most basic imperial duties since Rome defeated Carthage, and one on which our modern globalised economy is obviously more dependent than at any time in our prior history.
So it seems odd that the United States government has already had its Suez Moment, and everybody in the Western world was too busy arguing about other stuff to notice.
Operation Prosperity Guardian was supposed to make the Red Sea safe for shipping again. More than seven months in to the major multinational mission, with tens of billions worth of Western naval assets invested, the Houthis are winning.
As an industry publication for supply chains reported today: More danger to box ships as Houthis expand Red Sea attack arena. Expand! We’ve thrown a United States aircraft carrier and a bunch of state of the art Royal Navy plus Euro destroyers and frigates at them, as well as the usual complement of air strikes… the Houthis should not be “expanding” anything except their graveyards and the fact that they are successfully resisting the West’s most powerful non-nuclear weapons should trouble our leaders greatly.
The world’s mightiest superpower and allies are so far unable to defeat some Yemeni blokes with Ewok levels of technology. We can no longer guarantee the safety of vessels using the Suez Canal (!) and are literally losing a war in full view of the rest of the world, even if the Western media doesn’t care. If Yemen wins, the strategic significance is arguably far greater to the future of West than the fate of Ukraine and Taiwan put together. It’ll go down in history as a reverse Lepanto, the first time in 500 years that the Muslim world was capable of inflicting a strategic defeat on Western Man. (And, let’s be honest, it won’t be the last.)
If we lived in a serious society, this would be one of the biggest news stories, but we don’t so it isn’t.
Thanks for reading my semi-autistic OCD thoughts on empires, trade lanes, and the underappreciated importance of the Suez to the entire continent of Europe btw. If you have any thoughts of your own to share, I will read em.
BiND – When I was young the word fuck really was offensive and if youโd used it in public rooms in my fatherโs pub youโd have been barred and you certainly wouldnโt have heard women using it except for some of the roughest areas of town.
My Mother regularly tried to cure my potty mouth with a slipper to the face. None of us believed she even knew how to swear until we were well into adulthood.
And when I went home our Dad used to murder us in cold blood, each night, and dance about on our graves, singing “Hallelujah!”
“Everyoneโs the new Hitler these days darling”
Except Steve. He’s the old Hitler.
TZ – Hitler killed tens of millions. Including mass slaughter of Jewish women and children in death camps..His creepy NAZI evil monsters performed sick experiments on twins. Hitler ttied to wipe.out the Jewish race. Hitler was the most evil monster in history.
The more I hear about this Hitler fella, the less I like him.
Steve. I think you’re demonstrating your ignorance of naval matters here. Basically, you don’t do point defence in a closed sea. It’s virtually impossible. SOP would be suppress the fuck out of who’s shooting at the shipping. But eveyone’s hampered by the Rules of Engagement. The shooting’s being done out of populated areas or by craft masquerading as civilian craft & collateral civilian casualties are a big no-no.
It’s the same problem Israel has with Hammas & Hezbullah. They can shoot stuff at Israel but if Israel shoots back, collateral casualties are front pages round the world & motions at the UN
Steve
It’s my understanding that a large proportion of the Houthis’ cash comes from aid. Indeed the WFP etc have complained about the Houthis taxing the loot.
I’d therefore argue that the best solution to the Yemen problem is not to give the Houthi part of the place a single penny. Of course the Global South has plenty of dosh, and could finance them with no trouble. However they’re usually too busy robbing us to allow people like the Houthis to rob them.
I simply believe it’s foolish to pay them to attack us. As you can see, my political views haven’t advanced much beyond 991 AD.
what do you think of Vanceโs view โthat conservatives should employ the taxation power to โseizeโ the assets of โwoke, leftistโ nonprofits such as the Ford Foundation and universities such as Harvard.โ
Fairly modest ambition,but it’s a start. As I’ve often said before, I advocate carpet bombing, bull-dozing & sewing the ground with nuclear waste. But I’ve never seen a socialist I didn’t want to kill. Vile people. Get them before they get you is my attitude & practise.
John77 the population of Ireland had been rapidly growing before the 1841 census where it was 8.1 million.
Are you seriously going along with the British establishment BS that Ireland did not grow in population between 1841 and the start of the potato famine, Grow up. Start taking into account what Irelands population really was before the potato famine. MAny revisionists now believe millions died and there was a grotesque cover up by the racist British establishment. And you are utterly sick in the head to claim the British government did a serious job in dealing with the famine? Just like the British failed to act in Indian famines.
Let me ask you this simple question.
Do you seriously think the population of Ireland was only 8.1 million before the potato famine and had not changed for 3 years between the census and the start of the famin?
So are you suggesting Trump is not a free market politician? He supports tarrifs. He is a capitalist and that makes him a supporter of free markets. The free market policies led to millions of deaths in Irelamd and India. There are different types of free market economies and the British Empire was one.
it was the right that killed tens of millions in Ireland and India due to famine. It was not socialism that caused the potato famine it was capitalism.
BiS- You are a dangerous psychopathic son of a b**** if you want to kill all socialists. You need serious help as you are a very very dangerous and disturbed warped person.. I hope the Spanish police have your contact number.
You can’t even spell tariffs, you soft cunt.
BiS – Steve. I think youโre demonstrating your ignorance of naval matters here.
Yarp. I remain, like Hitler (ht Snag) an inveterate ground mammal. No doubt still quite ignorant of nautical nonsense despite enjoying the Hornblower books (Flashman remains the GOAT tho). However.
Basically, you donโt do point defence in a closed sea. Itโs virtually impossible. SOP would be suppress the fuck out of whoโs shooting at the shipping. But eveyoneโs hampered by the Rules of Engagement.
Similarly, I think you’re missing the bigger pitch. Who sets the rules of engagement? NB it’s not necessarily that important how we manage to lose a war, compared with the consequences of losing. Losing Suez is a significant blow to Western interests.
Bboy – Itโs my understanding that a large proportion of the Houthisโ cash comes from aid. Indeed the WFP etc have complained about the Houthis taxing the loot.
Yarp, the West defeating the West.
Iโd therefore argue that the best solution to the Yemen problem is not to give the Houthi part of the place a single penny. Of course the Global South has plenty of dosh, and could finance them with no trouble. However theyโre usually too busy robbing us to allow people like the Houthis to rob them.
If I understand it, the Houthis control most of Yemen including the capital. They are therefore the de facto government of Yemen.
So we’re at war with Yemen, whatever word games the Foreign Office might choose to employ. I deduce this from the fact that we don’t usually bomb countries we’re at peace with.
So here’s another “West bites West” story:
UK ramps up aid funding to help feed more than 850,000 people in Yemen
Englishุงูุนุฑุจูููุฉ
The Foreign Secretary has announced a significant uplift in aid funding for Yemen, to address one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world.
From:
Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office, The Rt Hon Lord Cameron and Lord (Tariq) Ahmad of Wimbledon KCMG
Published
15 May 2024
“How,” you may ask, “is it possible for an entire civilisation to repeatedly step on the same rakes until they died of concussion?” NB this was from the “Conservative” faction of the governing party. Lols!
I simply believe itโs foolish to pay them to attack us. As you can see, my political views havenโt advanced much beyond 991 AD.
Me neither, I would solve the Red Sea shipping crisis by dropping tactical nukes on their ports until they surrendered.
Instead of foreign aid, I’d be pumping tens of billions pa into urgent research and production for all types of drones, munitions, and building as many atomic warheads and credible delivery systems as treaty obligations allow, because it’s beginning to look a lot like Warmas out there.
But, correct if – it appears Labour have immediately rescinded Rishi’s unfunded pledge to increase our defence spend to a measly 2.5% GDP. At the same time, Labour plans to keep on waving our embarrassingly shrinking military willy at Russia and the Chinks, because don’t worry The Americans will always bail us out, right? Right?
You ever see that cartoon/meme where a mouthy dork remembers – too late – that he isn’t on the Internet?
The Irish population rose from 1,4m in 1600 to 8.18m in 1841. In the same period the English population rose from around 3 m to around 14m. So about twice the rate of growth. So why the difference? Potatoes. The yield from land was higher with spuds. So the Irish planted lots of spuds. The lack of wisdom on relying on a single food resource. English were brighter, weren’t they?
How can you blame the English? Both countries started from the same place. Hodgepodges of little kingdoms. If the English have prospered they’ve done it by their own efforts. Irish could have done the same. Nothing to stop them. Getting rid of the Catholic church would have been a start
As for famines, England had its own. Several. Dorset famine’s a famous one about the same time. https://fryfamilyseries.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/the-hungry-forties-in-19th-century-dorsetshire/ Why so many from that part of the country went to America. The people of England didn’t get any more help than the Irish did. Rather less.
Interested – You’re a soft dick.
BIS – Warped dangerous psychopaths should stay away from politics. Go an do SOMETHING where you ruin less lives.
You need serious help as you are a very very dangerous and disturbed warped person.
And intensely proud of it.
I hope the Spanish police have your contact number.
I should hope they have. We get together at Vox meetings. Their hatred of socialists goes right back to the Civil War.
Steve. It’s you who are criticising the achievements of the deployed assets in the Gulf. if they’re hampered by the RoE it doesn’t detract from their capabilities.
But otherwise, you’re correct. if the West continues to fight with one & sometimes both hands tied behind its back it will not prevail. And neither if it continues effectively financing its enemies.
But I think we both agree this is the result of a war that’s going on within the West itself. Between those who are trying to preserve western culture & those determined to destroy it. And it is a war. Except the left are using proxies to do their fighting for them.
@Trolledo Z
Hitler was the most evil monster in history.
How little history you know. Both Stalin and Mao beat Hitler in the killing stakes. Going back a bit further in history, Genghis Khan beats them all in percentage of world population terms if not in absolute numbers
Trolledo Zaradozi
On Jan 6th Trump showed how little respect he has for democracy.
I DO NOT SEE HOW ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR TRUMP
Whereas of course the Democrats have always respected the results of elections:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2012/06/yes-bush-v-gore-did-steal-the-election.html
https://inthesetimes.com/article/was-the-presidential-election-stolen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
I think the fact Biden is standing down more or less confirms the 2020 election was fraudulent, and that massive pressure was brought to avoid this coming out. Think about it. What the democrats have done is collude with criminal gangs to rig the Presidential election for their own benefit. Would anyone who committed such a crime overtly come out and admit it? I think not.
Anyway, Letโs hope this is your last foray onto the site. Invective and defamation of numerous great commentators really brings the tone of the discussion down. This isnโt the place to indulge adolescent fantasies.
Or you could all stop feeding the troll.
(It’s easy when you have the technology to help! https://pasteboard.co/Yh4umvvJSaZL.png)
BiW
Where does one acquire this technology? Is this the one (now that I remember) you put a link to a few years back (at own risk of course)? Worked on Chrome not FF? Does it work on Brave?
Whoeverโs doing Toledo Zaragoza, itโs funny, but isnโt the parody getting a bit unrealistic?
โOn Jan 6th Trump showed how little respect he has for democracy.
I DO NOT SEE HOW ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR TRUMP.โ
– so respect for democracy means belittling votersโ choice if they donโt agree with you?
โSo are you suggesting Trump is not a free market politician? He supports tarrifsโ
– free market supporters are against tariffs (however theyโre spelt)
โFree market extremism supported the corn laws.โ
– tell that to Cobden! Opposition to the corn laws was what started free markets as a political force in Britain.
I know, itโs difficult to parody a lefty trying to talk economics without sounding ridiculous, and itโs a good effort, but Toledo Zaragoza is looking a bit too ignorant to be believable.
@asiaseen
Yeah but we’ve strayed into morality here. And morality is nothing more than a matter of opinion. You certainly wouldn’t have convinced the Mongol Horde of your opinion of Gengis. I suspect if Gengis had not been Gengis the Horde would have got themselves another Gengis to lead them who’s name wouldn’t have been Gengis. Times produce the people
Just look at today when we’re being told the moral standard we should abide by is entirely different from that a mere 20 years ago. Our peculiar friend troll or real is just expressing a particular current moral package. And one thing you can’t is argue with moralists. More fun to take the piss out of them.
‘I advocate carpet bombing, bull-dozing & sewing the ground with nuclear waste’.
Thanks BiS. Your politics really are like mine!!
Steve. As I understand it, the Saudis hold the tribal area in the north of Yemen which has the oil.
The UAE provide the cash to subsidise the former Aden Protectorate in the south. They only joined the north because the Soviet Union went bankrupt and couldn’t finance them anymore.
Yes, the same.
It works on Brave (that’s what I use) and might still work on Chrome (the “might” is because they changed the extension metadata format recently and I’ve not tried it). I thought the first version of this was a Greasemonkey script, which works on Firefox, but I can’t find it.
“Toledo Zaragoza”… Are you, perchance, the same trolling twat who infests the “Guido” blog under the name of “Mogg Truss Falkirk”?
Very similar style and obsession for equating certain American politicians with cuddly old Uncle Adolf. If you aren’t, the two of you should get together, you’d get on like a house on fire!