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No, no, this is fascinating

Rachel Reeves will next week single out a spiralling hotel bill for asylum seekers that could cost up to £10 billion a year as she pins the blame for financial pressures on the Tories.

The Chancellor will use a speech to the House of Commons on Monday to reveal the details of her “audit” on hidden public spending realities commissioned after Labour took office.

So, let’s pretend at lesat that she’s being honest.

So, what to do? Load up the ferries and send ’em back to France? Or raise UK taxes by 1% (that is about right too) to pay this bill? A good test of longer term intentions, no?

37 thoughts on “No, no, this is fascinating”

  1. Forcing them to live in basic student accommodation might result in an outbreak of unexplained fires requiring the poor lambs to be returned to their four star hotels.

  2. John @ 6.38 “Forcing them to live in basic student accommodation might result in an outbreak of unexplained fires requiring the poor lambs to be returned to their four star hotels countries of origin”.
    That’s better.

    And isn’t it amazing that the same Labour politicians who have been lambasting the Tories for not spending enough over the last 14 years are now lambasting the Tories for spending too much over the last 14 years.

  3. Addolff, you’re forgetting the basic law of Socialism. When WE do it, it’s just right. When YOU do it, it’s completely, utterly wrong, evil, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, transphobic and something new I haven’t invented yet…

  4. The true cost is far more than just what is spent on hotels. I’m seeing them gradually take over and destroy my local seaside town. It started with one, made obvious by the crowds of migrants milling around outside. The holiday makers in the smart hotels on either side were uncomfortable, reviews were bad and repeat bookings non-existent. So those hotels throw in the towel and become immigrant hotels too. They stop maintenance as they don’t need to attract guests anymore. Being on the sea front they soon shabby. Less hotel and maintenance staff are employed making the town poorer. It spreads and spreads. The immigrants don’t spend like tourists so the local restaurants and cafes fail. As the towns main source of income is tourism, council income falls and their expenditure on gardens, amenities and things that attract tourists fall. It becomes a rundown area so tourist numbers fall further still and more hotels decide that housing migrants is their only option. The town dies.

  5. In what way is the lifelong costs of benefits, infrastructure, housing, education, health and social care for basically undesirable men, women and grannies whose culture hates and undermines my culture, a “Public Service” for which my taxes should increase?

  6. @Andyf: exactly what happened to places like Jaywick and Southend when all the long term doleites were moved out to seaside towns…

  7. “So, what to do? Load up the ferries and send ’em back to France? Or raise UK taxes by 1% (that is about right too) to pay this bill?”

    Both of those are solutions, sure, but before long some people will be calling for a “final solution”, to coin a phrase.

  8. andyf:

    Spot on. It’s exactly the same in Portsmouth and Southsea. Crumbling buildings, with the promenades full of nimble African scamps and the benches occupied by slightly paler varieties in Arabic dress who stare wistfully at the bathing beauties.

  9. It’s also making the remaining hotels ridiculously expensive. I’ve pretty much stopped going up to London now; used to spend a couple of nights up there, cheap Travelodge or some such, a few work meetings, a few friends, concert in the evening. But not now said Travelodge is £200 a night.

  10. My long term retirement ‘escape plan’ is to Scotland, probably Edinburgh.

    I think you need to rethink that. It used to be that the only “diversity” you would see in Perth, Scotland were the Indians working for SSE and Aviva via Infosys / Wipro or the local Indian takeaway staff.

    However, we’ve suddenly been inundated with various North African’s who appeared out of nowhere in the last year and the sudden influx is very, very noticeable. What time they aren’t in the local mosque seems to be spent playing football with teams of each other on the playing fields of North and South inch, so they clearly aren’t working. Where they are living is unclear.

    Maybe try Shetland, Orkney or the Western Isles?

  11. So, what to do?

    Drive them out.

    No money, no mosques, no hotels, just beatings for laughing young dinghymen. They’d soon fuck off.

    Same goes for Labour.

  12. I lived in Clacton as a teenager, for a few monts. I had a friend from Jaywick. This would be 1966 or so. It was a shithole then too, it has never been anything else.

  13. Leading indicators:

    Official figures show shoplifting in Wales has increased by 34% over the past year, with one trade union saying Wales faces an “epidemic” of retail crime.

    The largest increase in shoplifting was in south Wales, which nearly doubled with a 45% increase in the past year, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

    The ONS added that figures were now at a 20-year high across England and Wales

  14. The OBR has been setting out the budget limits for years. If Reeves never read their reports she’s not been doing her job as shadow chancellor.

    Migrants are not allowed to work while their asylum applications are processed. While some of them get a moody NI number and a deliveroo bike most just gland.

    Give them a Nansen ID and thirty quid a week if they turn up in the local dole / home office. Nothing more. We have indigenous homeless – many ex servicemen – and that’s enough.

  15. Or….. just not house them. A receiving state has absolutely ZERO responsibility to house people entering the country. Do what “we” did with the people fleeing the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s. Let society deal with them.

    The government provided accommodation for exactly zero European refugees. They were provided for by charities, relatives, social clubs, religious groups, actual real people putting their own hands in their own pockets to truely welcome refugees. None of these false flag “REFUGEES WELCOME HERE” banner carriers who would refuse to take anybody in if you demanded their address.

  16. I’d agree with you jgh.

    And I’d argue that if they want cash, they should have to work for it. No ‘not allowed to work’. Just work or starve. If they try to steal, forced labour in the chain gang.

    But I’d be merciful. If they wanted to leave the hellhole I’d turn the UK into, I’d give them a one way ticket to Rwanda or wherever.

  17. Jgh – Anybody who says “refugees welcome here” should be imprisoned and have their children taken away from them.

    Just like they did to Sam Melia.

    There’s no room in Britain for anti-white hate speech, and we shouldn’t tolerate the people who do it.

  18. Bloke in Germany in Norn Iron

    I’m on the last leg of a driving tour of Ireland, originally planned for 2020…

    In the Republic, some 20% of hotel rooms are occupied by Ireland’s new occupiers. Room prices, admittedly in peak tourist season, are eye watering. I admit to travelling expensively but this is just ridiculous.

    In the North, which the occupiers apparently use as an easy transit zone between GB and ROI, prices are just as eye watering, but I will attribute that to this part of the world being even more poorly set up for tourists than ROI.

  19. Dunno which bits you’re going to but if you’re over on the SE side of Ulster Dundrum (that little strip of coast in fact) is lovely. That a part of the ancestral clan comes from Dundrum is not the – only – reason I mention it. That specific village really is gorgeous. The view from the castle over the bay etc.

    G Gfathers sweet shop has been bricked up for decades (it’s the one behind the bus shelter for completeists) but the quay along the front is still “Vinny’s Quay”.

  20. Drive them out.

    Sadly, just a copium fueled fantasy. They’re doing the driving, with the leftist establishment flying top cover.
    Those who care are too few and too old.

  21. Surreptitious Evil

    My long term retirement ‘escape plan’ is to Scotland, probably Edinburgh.

    Julia, there are definitely some nice bits of Edinburgh, but they are expensive. Partialy due to politicians, bankers and other undesirable. Oh, and tourists and students. Just remember, given the rest of it, where Trainspotting was supposed to be (and that wasn’t set in the worst bit.)

    And then there is Leith …

  22. This is a problem we have inflicted upon ourselves by prventin gthem from working. There is a very simple solution – allow them to work and then they can pay for their own accommodation.

  23. I had an Austrian friend whom I took to Edinburgh. She said perhaps she’d pick up a butch kilt wearer.

    I had to explain that all men in Edinburgh were gay or English and usually both.

    I was very quickly proven right and she sulked the rest of the weekend while I went to play on the newly opened tram.

  24. This is a problem we have inflicted upon ourselves by prventin gthem from working.

    No, this is a problem we have inflicted on ourselves by letting them in and letting them stay.

    This idea that immigration wouldn’t be a problem if we didn’t have a welfare state is bollocks; they would still flood in if we were a libertarian Randian meritocracy with every chancellor coming from the Austrian School.

  25. PJF – Sadly, just a copium fueled fantasy.

    It is with that attitude.

    Normal countries, such as Pakistan, have no problems getting rid of unwanted immigrants.

  26. Deport the moochers. Sink the boats.

    “ a copium fueled fantasy”

    Perhaps, but crywanking while Leeds burns doesn’t appeal.

    But what are you going to do about it, I hear you cry. Well, the biggest regret of my life (not having children) is now a great comfort so I’ll see out my days somewhere warm while the UK disappears down the u-bend.

    As BiS once said, if you’re going to live with foreigners, at least let them be those of your choosing.

  27. Normal countries, such as Pakistan, have no problems getting rid of unwanted immigrants.

    As usual, you’re leaving out the vital problem of how do we get there from here. How can the establishment of this country be changed so that it is interested in stopping mass immigration and expelling massed immigrants?

    Saying “drive them out” and “lions” (etc) just makes you an internet tough guy (as you like to say). And using your usual rhetorical manipulations to discredit me might impress your fanbase but it won’t help you face facts.

  28. “How can the establishment of this country be changed so that it is interested in stopping mass immigration and expelling massed immigrants?”

    Not voting for the current Establishment would be a start. Hint: the Tories are part of the current Establishment.

  29. >PJF
    July 27, 2024 at 11:06 pm

    As usual, you’re leaving out the vital problem of how do we get there from here. How can the establishment of this country be changed so that it is interested in stopping mass immigration and expelling massed immigrants?

    Over, we did it once already. If you are saying some things are off the table – like violently changing the government – then you are saying you’ve already conceded defeat.

    As we’ve been shown so well over the last 30 years, violence does solve problems and certainly gets you a seat at the table and a lot of deference.

  30. As usual, you’re leaving out the vital problem of how do we get there from here. How can the establishment of this country be changed so that it is interested in stopping mass immigration and expelling massed immigrants?

    Voting Reform by disenchanted AND disenfranchised former Labour and Tory voters might not get us there, but at least it would be a start of the process.

    I suspect that Labour will have a rocky road to 2029.

  31. Bloke in Germany in Norn Iron

    Thanks for the tip. Mrs BiG wants to take the fast road back to the airport, but we saw most of the Derry and Antrim coasts. 22 of 32 counties in 10 days…

  32. @Steve – “Normal countries, such as Pakistan, have no problems getting rid of unwanted immigrants.”

    Pakistan GDP/capita $1,461 vs UK GDP/capita $58,880. So there’s a rather large difference in motivation. Of course, with the right policies we can impoverish ourselves sufficiently that we are no longer attractive to migrants.

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