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Once doesn’t matter, obviously

A group of well-dressed partygoers dubbed the “Prosecco Nazis” have sparked a police crackdown after they sang a song telling foreigners to go home while one performed a Hitler salute.

A video shows the revellers in the Pony nightclub on the German island of Sylt, a high-end holiday destination, singing to the tune L’amour Toujours by Gigi D’Agostino.

“Foreigners out, Germany for the Germans,” they sing while one performs a Nazi salute and moustache gesture in apparent reference to Adolf Hitler.

Drunks – even posh drunks – in a nightclub are only ever a very local problem.

But:

Police say that between October 2023 and June 2024 they have been called over 360 times to reports of the chant, according to the German news agency RND. Arrests have been made.

Ah, it’s striking something of a chord, is it? And always remember, it’s not the acction itself, it’s the chord, that matters. One singing of a nazi-style song isn’t a problem. Mass incidents of it being sung are.

43 thoughts on “Once doesn’t matter, obviously”

  1. It isn’t a problem.
    It’s indicative of what’s coming.
    The blob haven’t listened to what people want, called them racist for not wanting massive immigration.
    People are reacting accordingly.
    Watch the rise of groups and parties over the coming years that will do more than just chant a few “mean” words.

    Just wait until the Germans shake off their stupor. As Churchill said (iirc) the Huns are either at your feet or at your throat.

  2. The Meissen Bison

    The Telegraph is a bit late with this non-story but it is a bit of a stretch to think that prosecco can be thought of as posh even on Sylt.

    one performs a [..] moustache gesture in apparent reference to Adolf Hitler

    No, no. This is obviously a cultural reference to John Cleese.

  3. I was watching a match against Moenchengladbach and someone had a big banner

    Auslaender rein
    Rheinlaendet raus

    Which made me laugh

    Altogether now

    Die Fahne hoch
    In festen geschlossen Reihen
    SA marschiert…

  4. I read an interesting book about the Gestapo in Germany. They were completely different to the ones using thumb screws in occupied countries.

    The German ones spent half their time arresting people for drunkenly criticising the regime in beer halls.

  5. Tim

    On the assumption this is yet another veiled reference to the song that shall not be named, the very catchy Auslander Raus, you really shouldn’t refer to it as “nazi-style” unless you’re angling for a gig at the telegraph

    This preoccupation of the German establishment mirrors our own fixation with hurty words.

    Mind you tens of thousands of keffiyah clad trustafarians chanting “from the river to the sea” is absolutely fine and dandy.

  6. I wish there were some way of explaining these types of incidents – why on earth would significant numbers of an indigenous population start to express resentment to foreigners? You’d think that with all those millions being spent on social sciences, someone would be able to come up with a plausible theory. Surely something must have happened to trigger this in Germany and other European countries? But it remains a real mystery.

  7. Charlie

    Herr Flick has a lot to answer for.

    The prussian GEheimSTaatsPOlizei just happened to be a useful model for Goering to expand across the country. They operated mostly by denunciation and indeed spent most of their time inside Germany arresting people illicitly listening to foreign stations on the wireless.

  8. The Establishment in every Western country where replacement migration is taking place must be worried. Can they import sufficient third-worlders to outnumber their own people before their own people revolt?

  9. Have you noticed that whenever whitey has gone anywhere inhabited by not whitey, it has been deemed to be an unmitigated disaster for not whitey and a hideously bad thing for which whitey should be thoroughly ashamed, but when not whitey goes anywhere inhabited by whitey, whitey has to accept it unquestioningly and as a completely positive ‘good thing’. Strange eh?

  10. Yes John.

    I always find it entertaining that the Palestinians are permitted to oppose a huge influx of settlers. But it’s horrid Islamophobic racism if we oppose a huge influx of them.

    An amusing example is the election of Fatima Payman as a Labor senator. The lady naturally opposed Labors’ support for Israel defending itself against Hamas. So she has departed the Labor party. Since a century old custom requires Labor members to vote as the party directs.

    It’ll be interesting to see if this custom will finally be scrapped.

  11. Even 360 isn’t necessarily a problem. It depends on whether they mean it or not. If Hitler had stuck to running a male voice choir, he wouldn’t have been half as much trouble.

    Okay, maybe half. But no more than that.

  12. It’s funny how singing Germans is international news, but young North African toughs laughing and throwing pregnant French women off a bus belly-first is the kind of news you only see on racist Twitter feeds.

  13. What surprises me most is that the german text matches the core tune of that bit of noise exactly…

    Somewhere, someone did not have a tin ear and a sense of rythm.

  14. This is the inevitable consequence of the widespread obsession with the Nazis. Anything even slightly away from the left consensus becomes the rebirth of the Nazis. Thus the Nazis have gone mythical. So you can’t blame people for identifying with the myth.
    Similar happened with the Vikings. You wouldn’t have got C11th century Anglo-Saxons identifying with those who burnt there houses, butchered their menfolk or carried them & their woman off into slavery. But now identifying with Vikings is cool. The USians name football teams after them. They went mythic.

  15. Is this just a few very enthusiastic people, or is it widespread?

    That the police went out 360 times in 8 months, and that this is a holiday island so presumably mostly a transient population, makes me think it might be widespread.

  16. Sam Duncan said:
    “If Hitler had stuck to running a male voice choir, he wouldn’t have been half as much trouble.”

    Yes, the problems only started when he decided to run a folk group.

  17. Person in Pictland

    I suspect that half the motivation is that people know that singing a nazi-like song annoys all the right people i.e. all the Left people.

    It’s like children at nursery school trying to do whatever is naughty.

  18. The whitey/non-whitey comparative result thing is obvious. Whitey has science, technology, philosophy, physics, engineering, sophisticated agricultural and machinery. Non whitey for the most part has none of those things. Those things are bad therefore exports of those are bad, and imports that destroy those things are good.
    It’s obvious!

  19. Similar happened with the Vikings.

    Recent tv docu-dramas have been notable for the inclusion of black female Viking warriors. Must be true innit?

    However I reckon it will be a cold day in hell before a bbc or Netflix series features a black stormtrooper.

  20. “ Mind you tens of thousands of keffiyah clad trustafarians chanting “from the river to the sea” is absolutely fine and dandy.L

    Not in Germany. As it happens this just appeared in my Twitter feed:

    “ Human rights activists are concerned about what they see as a worrying trend in Germany. They say German police are systematically using excessive force and targeting “politically undesirable protests,” such as climate activists and those expressing solidarity with Palestinians.”

    https://x.com/dwnews/status/1811316510767345833?s=61&t=VX5cJ0-osgn_JSz7j-uowQ

    And then there’s this, although Scholz has a history of not following through:

    https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-germany-will-ban-all-hamas-linked-activities-israel-palestine/

  21. I suspect that half the motivation is that people know that singing a nazi-like song annoys all the right people i.e. all the Left people.

    It’s like children at nursery school trying to do whatever is naughty.

    But with a much harsher punishment than being made to sit on the naughty step. After the Sylt incident one guy who was leading the singing was charged with Nazism or whatever the crime is and one woman summarily lost her job. The last I saw the venue owners were talking of the Sylt nightclub were talking about suing anyone who could be identified.

  22. Recent tv docu-dramas have been notable for the inclusion of black female Viking warriors. Must be true innit?
    The Netflix Viking saga had a mulata Viking queen. But at least the back story made sense. Daughter of a Viking chief & a black slave acquired on a visit to the Med/Black Sea region. The Vikings had considerable contact with the area & marrying slaves wasn’t uncommon. Also history of female rulers. How darkies would have got into Tudor royal courts would need some serious script writing, though. Royal & aristocratic marriages were mostly arranged. They were about uniting families, not about the preferences of the couple.. Can’t imagine the occupants of mud huts on the banks of the Niger were potential allies.

  23. What human rights activists claim often has as much connection to the truth as the near-daily statistics “according to the territory’s Hamas-run health ministry” so beloved by the bbc.

  24. @BiS

    But now identifying with Vikings is cool. The USians name football teams after them. They went mythic.

    Here in USia you will find that the areas venerating the Vikings were largely settled by those of the Nordic persuasion. To them the Vikings were intrepid explorers rather than loathsome Raiders (also a football team). It all depends on your point of view.

  25. @Otto

    Yes, I was fascinated to learn that the average Germans (especially Berliners) were not scared of the Gestapo at all.

    If they were arrested for drunkenly criticizing “you know who” or listening to foreign radio stations, they would indignantly fight their case and point out any technicalities that the Gestapo had got wrong, and usually either win their case or get off with a small fine.

    It helped that the Gestapo guys in Germany were mostly old-school cops who had been pressured into joining the Gestapo and had no real interest in politics, of course.

    These days, any cops who have no interest in enforcing political opinions have mostly thrown their hands up in disgust and retired.

  26. BIS,

    “This is the inevitable consequence of the widespread obsession with the Nazis. Anything even slightly away from the left consensus becomes the rebirth of the Nazis. Thus the Nazis have gone mythical. So you can’t blame people for identifying with the myth.”

    If you start from the position of Germans living in 1932, the Nazis were just not that mad an idea, relatively speaking for the time. The idea of Lebensraum was from the late 19th century and in the late 19th century, probably made sense. By 1932, it didn’t. Getting rich through industrialisation and markets did. it was still a bad choice by the German people, but not as completely bonkers as it’s seen today.

    Most people just don’t vote for Completely Bonkers. Not within their time and place. The Nazis look like they were Completely Bonkers, because we live in a different world. We aren’t half-starved, we don’t all work the land. You’re going to be a lot less considerate to people you see as outsiders if you’re worried about your children not eating.

  27. BiND

    You’re not wrong there. It’s most unusual to see such “robust” policing of leftist protestors. However it was certainly no worse than what we regularly saw done by gendarmes against the Gilet Jaunes about which I doubt if any of the “shocked I tell you” talking heads raised a murmur

    Over here while the level of intensity is thankfully lower (although 99% of the population would approve of a touch more urgency in removing JSO muppets and crusties blocking main roads) the kid glove approach to protestors defacing buildings and monuments while waving pally flags as opposed to the considerably more forceful tactics applied to bearers of crosses of St George cannot be denied even if the media does its best to ignore or play it down.

  28. @WB
    So very true. If you look at the history of Germany after the WW1 defeat it’s not hard to see how the Nazi’s arose. One could have seen the same happening in France if the situation had been reversed & France had lost & been on the receiving end of the Versailles treaty. It’s difficult for Brits to understand because Britain has never been a continental power with land frontiers, sandwiched between other continental powers. And there’s been considerable rewriting of British history of the time. I know from the East End side of my family, there was widespread sympathy for Mosley. And not just my family. Father of a girlfriend in the 70s had an English language copy of Mein Kampf on the bookshelf. And unlikely out of literary interest. He was a factory machinist, main interests football & reading the Sunday Mirror. But East End again. On the receiving end of the Jewish exodus from the pogroms in Eastern Europe totally changed that part of London. Same as happened in German cities. Now add the Depression… Anti-Semitism in UK isn’t a recent thing. It just declined for a few years because it was unacceptable to those who give us our opinions. It’s worth watching Till Death Do Us Part, if there’s any of the early tapes left undestroyed. The Alf Garnett character was funny because we all knew people had his opinions.
    The past is a foreign country. Now will look like a foreign country in 80 year’s time

  29. Incidentally, I reckon you could go through Mein Kampf, substituting Muslims for Jews & crafting it for a modern* British market but keeping all the core ideas & you’d have yourself a best seller. Except the UK is already at the burning books stage.

    *Uncle Dolfo was a tedious writer. But then, most writers were at the time. See Spud, now.

  30. I sneeze in threes

    Richard T

    “Yes, the problems only started when he decided to run a folk group”.

    Or when he started to run a volk group.

  31. I sneeze in threes

    “Yes, the problems only started when he decided to run a folk group.”’

    Or a volk group.

  32. Father of a girlfriend in the 70s had an English language copy of Mein Kampf on the bookshelf.

    I’ve got a copy of Mein Kampf on the bookshelf. It’s sitting right next to Das Kapital.

    Amusingly (to me at least), Amazon shipped the package containing both via its German subsidiary.

  33. Suppose I could get a copy out of the library if I wanted to, BiW.

    But I glanced at the thing many years ago. Wasn’t able to finish a single sentence.

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